Because we like ruthless super spies and women who wield political power, her real genius seems to the administration, and we approve of her using her gifts for what she sees as a good cause. Cerberus has betrayed that cause. We'd like her to "redeem" them and transform the organization into what it should have always been. If she didn't want to use her gifts for some grand cause, she would cease to be the Miranda I fell for.
"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3
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#10477
Posté 24 août 2011 - 08:32
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nitefyre410 wrote...
Honestly I'm glad TIM is running the Cerberus show it was Miranda and she was the villain that some fantics makes her out to be ...it would be game of over. She knows how to get the job done
Those who portray her as a vilain really don't understand the character.
Miranda deserves better than Cerberus, and I want to see her accomplish important things away from this organization.
#10478
Posté 24 août 2011 - 08:41
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jtav wrote...
In the tlk file. http://social.biowar...88367/1#8188598
It doesn't look like something to take seriously.
#10479
Posté 24 août 2011 - 08:42
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I guess because A. despite Cerberus past it has an incredible amount of resources, new technology etc. B. TIm cannot be trusted- full stop. whether he dies or is usurped in ME 3 the outcome is the same, TIM's days as leader of Cerberus is numbered.
C. So their needs to be a replacement, the most obvious choices at the moment is either Jacob or Miranda. Jacob is a great operative and a respected soldier but he likes the necessary skills to be in charge of an organisation like Cerberus. Miranda on the other has extensive skills, experience and political cunning needed for such a role and she is practically TIM's right hand. Plus if you gain her loyalty and even more importantly romance her, she owes you a debt of gratitude and you retain a hold on her.
Really Miranda at the moment would be the most logical choice as the new leader of Cerberus and besides it wouldn't be that different from Liara being the new Shadow Broker. The two roles are quite similar in nature.
Course we will probably get the option to wipe out TIM and Cerberus out right in the game and BIoware may come up with a new character to take the role of TIM. But at the moment Miranda would be the best choice. My two cents.
C. So their needs to be a replacement, the most obvious choices at the moment is either Jacob or Miranda. Jacob is a great operative and a respected soldier but he likes the necessary skills to be in charge of an organisation like Cerberus. Miranda on the other has extensive skills, experience and political cunning needed for such a role and she is practically TIM's right hand. Plus if you gain her loyalty and even more importantly romance her, she owes you a debt of gratitude and you retain a hold on her.
Really Miranda at the moment would be the most logical choice as the new leader of Cerberus and besides it wouldn't be that different from Liara being the new Shadow Broker. The two roles are quite similar in nature.
Course we will probably get the option to wipe out TIM and Cerberus out right in the game and BIoware may come up with a new character to take the role of TIM. But at the moment Miranda would be the best choice. My two cents.
#10481
Posté 24 août 2011 - 08:58
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God, I HATE, HATE, HATE Lair of the Shadow Broker. Liara 2.0...
Anyway, I hope it won't be possible to completely destroy Cerberus. Instead, if Miranda is not around to take the reins of the organization, the more extremists cells plague the Galaxy for decades after TIM's death.
That will teach the haters.
Anyway, I hope it won't be possible to completely destroy Cerberus. Instead, if Miranda is not around to take the reins of the organization, the more extremists cells plague the Galaxy for decades after TIM's death.
That will teach the haters.
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#10482
Posté 24 août 2011 - 09:03
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Yannkee wrote...
nitefyre410 wrote...
Honestly I'm glad TIM is running the Cerberus show it was Miranda and she was the villain that some fantics makes her out to be ...it would be game of over. She knows how to get the job done
Those who portray her as a vilain really don't understand the character.
Miranda deserves better than Cerberus, and I want to see her accomplish important things away from this organization.
She does but I was talking a Hypothetical of how screwed we would be if she was the villain and running the show.
#10483
Posté 24 août 2011 - 09:06
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Shepard should confine her and interrogate her about the whereabouts of the real Miranda. Clearly, this was a clone planted on the group by Mr. Lawson or TIM.MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
What if she were to mention not wanting to be doing something like that, and not be part of any organization?
Modifié par MisterJB, 24 août 2011 - 09:07 .
#10484
Posté 24 août 2011 - 09:06
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nitefyre410 wrote...
Yannkee wrote...
nitefyre410 wrote...
Honestly I'm glad TIM is running the Cerberus show it was Miranda and she was the villain that some fantics makes her out to be ...it would be game of over. She knows how to get the job done
Those who portray her as a vilain really don't understand the character.
Miranda deserves better than Cerberus, and I want to see her accomplish important things away from this organization.
She does but I was talking a Hypothetical of how screwed we would be if she was the villain and running the show.
She would not be the same character for me (if Cerberus is the same organization than it is now).
#10485
Posté 24 août 2011 - 09:11
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Miranda is sort of a mixed choice. She is ideal for Shepard if he is looking for romance, but she had no Ideal talents (in my opinion) and was always that character I saw in story cut scenes.
If she was to return in Mass effect 3 I believe it would only be a minor appearance (Such as Mordins appearance in the Female Krogan .quest) Whether or not it is to do with your romance with her or an actual quest is un-clear for now
If she was to return in Mass effect 3 I believe it would only be a minor appearance (Such as Mordins appearance in the Female Krogan .quest) Whether or not it is to do with your romance with her or an actual quest is un-clear for now
#10488
Posté 24 août 2011 - 09:29
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IllusiveBroker wrote...
Miranda is sort of a mixed choice. She is ideal for Shepard if he is looking for romance, but she had no Ideal talents (in my opinion) and was always that character I saw in story cut scenes.
If she was to return in Mass effect 3 I believe it would only be a minor appearance (Such as Mordins appearance in the Female Krogan .quest) Whether or not it is to do with your romance with her or an actual quest is un-clear for now
Unacceptable. The minor role is just fine for this.. walking bucket, that has had little to contribute to anything after ME1. And even then her role wasn't that big.
Don't leave the important personnel into minor roles.
#10489
Posté 24 août 2011 - 09:41
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IllusiveBroker wrote...
If she was to return in Mass effect 3
She is returning! According to Hudson
IllusiveBroker wrote...
I believe it would only be a minor appearance (Such as Mordins appearance in the Female Krogan .quest)
Not so sure about this, so far we have: "several scenes", "large role" and "unfinished business with Shepard" (which was retweeted by one of the devs)
As for the romance we don't know...yet
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#10490
Posté 24 août 2011 - 10:08
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At this point, I'd love to see a screenshot, either from gameplay or the squad screen.
#10491
Posté 24 août 2011 - 10:08
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MassEffect4Eva1710 wrote...
Ok, I've got a question for everyone: what do you want to happen at the epilouge (sorry if thst is spelt wrong) with Miranda? To the people that don't want Miranda and Shepard to have kids, what do you want?
I know I want marriage and kids. I for one want to see little Shepards and Mirandas running around. What does everyone else want?
Though I'm not completely keen on the children (unless brought up by Shepard), I'm really not sure what I want the resolution to be like. Just nothing terrible like her dying, or he dying, or just a complete and other fail in the writing. :/
#10492
Posté 24 août 2011 - 10:09
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Miranda will play the biggest role of all the ME2 squadies. Including Garrus and Tali. I'm calling it now. Her connection with Cerberus is going to blow big.
#10493
Posté 24 août 2011 - 10:10
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Alright fine. Since you only want your speculations to happen (instead of showing respect for what others want), what do YOU want to happen to Miri since YOU want it so badly!? >
It's crazy how some would think that if Miri chose not to be part of an organization, they would lose it and think that ashe is not the real Miri.
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What I want is a happy ending!
No more Cerberus Dammit! They already killed themselves by becoming indoctrinated by the Reapers, due to TIM possibly stupid actions.
I'm glad Miri resigns. Why go back?
It's crazy how some would think that if Miri chose not to be part of an organization, they would lose it and think that ashe is not the real Miri.
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What I want is a happy ending!
No more Cerberus Dammit! They already killed themselves by becoming indoctrinated by the Reapers, due to TIM possibly stupid actions.
I'm glad Miri resigns. Why go back?
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#10495
Posté 24 août 2011 - 10:23
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What I want is a happy ending!
Well, the crux of the difference in opinion seems to come down to some fans having a more "renegade" vision of Miranda, while others perceive her character arc as moving towards a more paragon or at least "paragade" type of outlook. Both of these paths are actually in the game, depending on your plot choices and conversational options, so it's not really surprising that the two preferences exist among fans.
Personally I hope both paths are continued in ME3, again according to the player's choices.
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#10496
Posté 24 août 2011 - 10:24
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flemm wrote...
At this point, I'd love to see a screenshot, either from gameplay or the squad screen.
The longer we go without one, the more I fear the dreaded *gulp* redesign...
#10497
Posté 24 août 2011 - 10:24
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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Alright fine. Since you only want your speculations to happen (instead of showing respect for what others want), what do YOU want to happen to Miri since YOU want it so badly!? >
It's crazy how some would think that if Miri chose not to be part of an organization, they would lose it and think that ashe is not the real Miri.
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Because she said that she envy Mordin and his past on STG. This is what she wants. I don't care if she'll be the new leader of Cerberus (a new Cerberus) or if she creates a new organization, but I want her to be on this role.
But I'll not be upset if this will not happen. I'll be upset if they'll do a epilogue for her that I'll find OOC.
But I don't see here someone that doesnt' respect other people's opinion. Every persone sees Miranda (and any other characters) in a way, and they'll be disappointed if Miranda will be portraited in a way that they think it's OOC. They have every rights to express their opinion about a scenario that they don't like.
#10498
Posté 24 août 2011 - 10:26
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flemm wrote...
What I want is a happy ending!
Well, the crux of the difference in opinion seems to come down to some fans having a more "renegade" vision of Miranda, while others perceive her character arc as moving towards a more paragon or at least "paragade" type of outlook. Both of these paths are actually in the game, depending on your plot choices and conversational options, so it's not really surprising that the two preferences exist among fans.
Personally I hope both paths are continued in ME3, again according to the player's choices.
It's like they only want there option to happen. Cuz they constantly talk about that. What about a more Pargon/ Paragade Option?
#10499
Posté 24 août 2011 - 10:27
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The longer we go without one, the more I fear the dreaded *gulp* redesign...
Haha, yeah, you could be right. However, as long as Yvonne is the voice and face of the character, I can hardly imagine I would be too displeased with the result, but you never know.
#10500
Posté 24 août 2011 - 10:28
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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
What I want is a happy ending!
No more Cerberus Dammit! They already killed themselves by becoming indoctrinated by the Reapers, due to TIM possibly stupid actions.
I'm glad Miri resigns. Why go back?
Nobody here said that they want Miranda to join Cerberus as it is now. They said (myself included) that they hope she'll lead Cerberus, a Cerberus that will work in a different way from the past, or that she'll lead a new organization.
Btw, what Bioware are doing to Cerberus in ME3 (from what we know) is a thing that I absolutely hate. And this comes from a non supporter of Cerberus (though I don't hate them. And I think that TIM is one, if not the best, character that Bioware made in the ME serie).
