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[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

enayasoul wrote...

Do you think Oriana and Miranda will have the same tastes in clothing? Jewelry or the same kinds of foods? They both seem to like the same music.

That's possible!:happy:

[Skullheart]

After the date

Donnel: Your sister scares me. I believe she hates me.
Oriana: I think she likes you. If she doesn't you wouldn't be breathing right know.
Donnel: I know the breathing part is a joke, but now she scares me a lot more.

[enayasoul]

Skullheart wrote...

After the date

Donnel: Your sister scares me. I believe she hates me.
Oriana: I think she likes you. If she doesn't you wouldn't be breathing right know.
Donnel: I know the breathing part is a joke, but now she scares me a lot more.

Seems like how it would go down but that's just my opinion

[enayasoul]

don't worry, I reported the trolls... back to talking about Miranda.

[enayasoul]

She does have the most beautiful eyes I've ever seen.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

enayasoul wrote...



She does have the most beautiful eyes I've ever seen.

This. Most Definitely THIS:wub:!

[Darthnemesis2]

enayasoul wrote...



She does have the most beautiful eyes I've ever seen.

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She looks stoned 

Modifié par Darthnemesis2, 25 août 2011 - 04:30 .

[The Minority]

Darthnemesis2 wrote...

enayasoul wrote...



She does have the most beautiful eyes I've ever seen.

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She looks stoned 

I'm inclined to agree with this Sith lord.

[NCC-1701]

I think we should refocus on miranda !

[JosephDucreux]

NCC-1701 wrote...

I think we should refocus on miranda !

Very good idea. Thank you sir.

[Ieldra]

MisterJB wrote...
God, I HATE, HATE, HATE Lair of the Shadow Broker.

You hate LotSB? Why that?

The only part I have is Miranda's dossier (except the Oriana chat, that's nice)

Anyway, I hope it won't be possible to completely destroy Cerberus. Instead, if Miranda is not around to take the reins of the organization, the more extremists cells plague the Galaxy for decades after TIM's death.
That will teach the haters.

That sounds like a plausible scenario. I doubt it will come to pass, but it would be very appropriate.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 25 août 2011 - 07:48 .

[Ieldra]

MegaBadExample wrote...
Miranda will play the biggest role of all the ME2 squadies. Including Garrus and Tali. I'm calling it now. Her connection with Cerberus is going to blow big.

I take it this is your prediction? If this comes to pass, you will have earned bragging rights for one year after the release of ME3 

[JosephDucreux]

MegaBadExample wrote...
Miranda will play the biggest role of all the ME2 squadies. Including Garrus and Tali. I'm calling it now. Her connection with Cerberus is going to blow big.

Well, they didn't give her such a major role in ME2 and all that plot EOD-suit just so she could've a cameo in numero tres, right? Problem is, we don't know how much interaction there's gonna be, and that bugs the crapola outta just about everyone here.

[Ieldra]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
It's crazy how some would think that if Miri chose not to be part of an organization, they would lose it and think that ashe is not the real Miri.

I would not believe in a Miranda who would not want to do something to benefit humanity on a large scale. It is realistic to assume that she won't be able to do that completely on her own. There are many possibilities but all are linked to organizations, be it a secret intelligence organization, a scientific research foundation or whatever. What I cannot believe is that she would retreat into private life. 

None of the options put forward where she does that prevents a happy ending. In fact, they are part of any happing ending because Miranda would continue to do something meaningful.

[100k]

In just the right lighting...

[Ieldra]

flemm wrote...
But, also, I do think hhh89 is right that most of the talk about Miranda becoming "TIW" is not about her regressing to her old role at Cerberus, but progressing to a new role as head of new covert organisation (whatever the organisation might be called). Which could honestly work for Renegade AND Paragade evolutions of the character (imo).

Absolutely. And I don't know why people think that choosing a more Renegade path for her would mean she doesn't get a happy ending? Miranda would be happy doing things for her vision of the advancement of humanity. Happiness in a relationship is nice, but that alone would never satisfy her.

[Ieldra]

Yannkee wrote...
Of course there is the VS, but even if I like Kaidan, he won't prevent me to have my XO back. Otherwise, bad things could happen to him.

LOL, I know the sentiment. No Usurpers on the Normandy, no sir. But from a more detached viewpoint, XO of the Normandy isn't such a glorious role. She would have a stronger impact as the resident scientist. Which I find rather likely if we get her back as a permanent team member, since the Normandy lacks a scientist at the moment, and I can't see the remaining newcomer being one.

[Ieldra]

MisterJB wrote...
Oh, I fully expect Miranda's organization to be trashed against and I'm perfectly ok with it. Having the Alliance bogged down by policies and protocol is bad enough for humanity. Miranda's org will have to be the one that operates outside of the law.
That could actually incentivate my Shepard into becoming an Alliance Admiral.

Shepard: Hi, sweetie. Called to check in how you are and to let you know that the Alliance is planning a raid on X base.

Beautiful.

But realistically I doubt they would let him know, at least know if his association with Miranda is known.

[Ieldra]

MisterJB wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

But What if Cerberus were to be completely wiped out? Imagine, if you will, the Reapers no longer needing them, and instead of letting them go, well, they let them go....by wiping every last member of Cerberus indoctrinated. Getting rid of the pawns themselves, once everything is in order.

I don't think we have to worry about the Reapers disposing of Cerberus until they have won the war, in which it won't matter anyway. And I seriously doubt everyone in Cerberus is indocrinated even if the Reapers did indeed take over the entire organization (which I don't believe happened). Remember that indocrination reduces usefulness.
Besides, Cerberus' resources are not limited to it's operatives. Data on experiences, monetary funds, fakes IDs, front companies, bases on remote planets, space stations. All of this is Cerberus.

Also, I doubt that Cerberus is working for the Reapers in ME3. The troops we fight might be indoctrinated, but the question is by whom and for which purpose. I'll post a more extensive version of this hypothesis later in the "Den of Delusions" thread.

Yannkee wrote...
Do you really think that the cells that were loyal to TIM will suddenly accept the authority of a new person ?
This scenario is really unlikely.

People like Kai Leng will have to be disposed of, certainly. However, ultimately, the operatives work for Cerberus, not TIM. Remember how secretive he is.
If his death can't be pinned on Miranda and after she is seen saving what remains of the organization, the survivors will obey her. Especially after Cerberus getting in bed with the Reapers.

Also a new organization after the reaper war could have a more important role than the remain of a pro-humanity terorist organization.
I want to see Miranda involved in something bigger than that.

Miranda can shape the remains of Cerberus into whatever she pleases. She has the brains for that. I just don't see the point in starting from zero.

Exactly. Starting from zero just because resources you would take over were associated with an organization you don't like is stupid. Even if you fire all the operatives, there remains intelligence data, scientific research, labs, front companies etc. etc. Someone will get them and use them, you can be sure of that. Better that Miranda takes them over. 

[Caihn]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...
Of course there is the VS, but even if I like Kaidan, he won't prevent me to have my XO back. Otherwise, bad things could happen to him.

LOL, I know the sentiment. No Usurpers on the Normandy, no sir. But from a more detached viewpoint, XO of the Normandy isn't such a glorious role. She would have a stronger impact as the resident scientist. Which I find rather likely if we get her back as a permanent team member, since the Normandy lacks a scientist at the moment, and I can't see the remaining newcomer being one.

I don't agree.
The XO is a far more important role, and also the most rewarding.
You absolutely want to see Miranda leading an organization, but you don't want her to be the XO ? This role is the only one besides the CO that can be similar to the leader of an organization in term of responsability and competence.

[I Am Unoriginal]

(1) The Illusive Woman: Miranda takes over what remains of Cerberus and creates humanity's equivalent of the salarian STG from it.

Damn, this was exactly what i thought of.

Modifié par I Am Unoriginal, 25 août 2011 - 11:42 .

[Made Nightwing]

Just bought the first season of Chuck, and can I say, it shows Yvonne Strahovski's versatility as an actress that she can pull off two similar characters (on the surface) like Sarah Walker and Miranda Lawson, yet still make them such individuals.

And yeah, most of the Tali and Jack fans are fairly well mannered, and I get along with them. You just have to ignore guys like Tigerblood, he mad.

[nitefyre410]

Melrache wrote...

Oh dem Tali kids are here? Please begone, you're not on my level of intelligence.

 


Ahem there not the only  Tali kids that hanging out in this  thread    Please don't lump  me in with those two...trolls

[Ieldra]

Yannkee wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...
Of course there is the VS, but even if I like Kaidan, he won't prevent me to have my XO back. Otherwise, bad things could happen to him.

LOL, I know the sentiment. No Usurpers on the Normandy, no sir. But from a more detached viewpoint, XO of the Normandy isn't such a glorious role. She would have a stronger impact as the resident scientist. Which I find rather likely if we get her back as a permanent team member, since the Normandy lacks a scientist at the moment, and I can't see the remaining newcomer being one.

I don't agree.
The XO is a far more important role, and also the most rewarding.
You absolutely want to see Miranda leading an organization, but you don't want her to be the XO ? This role is the only one besides the CO that can be similar to the leader of an organization in term of responsability and competence.

Except that she's trumped by Shepard in every capacity of her professional role as the XO. She's expendable. If she's the chief scientist, she has a role no one on the team can fill. 

I can see where you're coming from. I am conflicted. I want to see Miranda and Shepard lead operations together like in ME2's suicide mission, but I also want her to have agency independently from Shepard. If these aspects come in conflict, I would rather choose the latter.

[JosephDucreux]

100k wrote...

Blitzkrieg0811 wrote...

enayasoul wrote...


She does have the most beautiful eyes I've ever seen.

*ahem*

*ugly pic snipped*

If memory serves me right, this is both a fake -- two blue eyes in reality, and a crossdresser.

As /b/ always says: "the more you know".

Aha! Another 4chan anon has found me! Welcome my brethren...

TBH, I think Miranda's too smart to try and recreate Cerberus. Sure, she'll use the resources and networks available, but she'd just form a completely different organisation from Cerberus. Why? Well, Cerberus is pretty much wanted in pieces by both the Alliance and the Council, and they're not going to stop hammering them just 'cause they had a change in management.

Also, war is very, very profitable. The Alliance aren't going to have batarian slavers to smack around 24/7, so there needs to be a substitute for those slavers. Guess who it is? Yup, Cerberus are gonna have to get attacked by the Alliance just so the Alliance can continue its economic growth.

Thus, Miranda would probably say something like: "Screw this organization, I'm creating my own. Oh and by the way, thanks for the resources! Bye now!"