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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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#10726
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Outside of the whole Cerberus thing, I can see Ash and Miranda getting along, or at least having a bit of a friendly rivalry.

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Made Nightwing wrote...

flemm wrote...

@Made Nightwing, I don't believe any offense was intended by the airlock comment, but rather it was meant to simply be a jocular (and admittedly somewhat roundabout) way of expressing affection for Miranda.


I know, and I kinda overreacted, but the reason I enjoy hanging out here is that I can usually say that I like Ash as well as Miranda without getting a 'Lol, ****, airlock' response.

On topic:

A while back, I had an idea I like to call 'Badass Reappearance'. From the scanty information available, and drawing from assumptions based on previous Bioware games, we'll probably be starting on the Normandy with only the VS and Vega as our squadmates (Which, if Shepard is a soldier and Ashley is the VS is going to lead to some major overkill in the first few missions). As we go about our buisness of re-assembling the squad, I wonder if Bioware is going to give each main character from the previous games a good reintroduction, to display a reskin or new role.

*SPOILER* For Mordin, we see him on Sur'Kesh, doin' his whole 'path of redemption' thing. *SPOILER*

For Jacob, I proposed that he storm onto the battlefield in a captured Cerberus mech to help Jacob out. For Garrus, more sniping seems appropriate. Any thoughts/ideas/hopes for Miranda's comeback?


I'm thinking that Ceburus will keep trying to kill your Shepard and he eventually get annoyed (and we all know what happens when you annoy ShepardPosted Image). He will find a Cerburus headquarters and try to kill them all to get information on TIM. When you're about to get the info you see Miranda kill a few Cerburus agents and she walks up to you and goes "hey whats up!" lol. My Shepard will react like this I hope:

Miranda: Hey Shepard. I missed you.

Shepard: Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image (faints) LOL!

#10728
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I'm going back to talk to her after completing all the side missions, loyalty missions etc. Like I said I think all I've got left is the Reaper IFF, joker's aside, etc.

I had been trying to save the romance scenes for the end instead of having sealed the deal halfway through the game and am afraid I've done something amiss.

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Costigan_n7 wrote...

I'm going back to talk to her after completing all the side missions, loyalty missions etc. Like I said I think all I've got left is the Reaper IFF, joker's aside, etc.

I had been trying to save the romance scenes for the end instead of having sealed the deal halfway through the game and am afraid I've done something amiss.


well, basically, all ur gonna miss is the engine room scene. u can complete the romance after the SM, right?

but i dont even worry about that, I start working on Miranda as soon as I click-clack that "Asari ****". I'm pretty much done with "romancing" her with quite a bit of story left to play but I could care less. I kno in the end, she'll find me :devil:

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What I wanna see about Miri and Ash is a friendly rivalry relation. They don't need to acept the beliefs from each other, but they respect them.

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Posted Image

I hope the author will soon finish this picture :-)

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Axestone wrote...

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I hope the author will soon finish this picture :-)


I like this look, think I've seen similar looking shoulder ''pads'' somewhere before, it's not a bad thing ofc. Miri looking cool and still has that sense of authority about her. Neat. :whistle:

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Melrache wrote...

I like this look, think I've seen similar looking shoulder ''pads'' somewhere before, it's not a bad thing ofc. Miri looking cool and still has that sense of authority about her. Neat. :whistle:


Maybe here :

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or here :

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#10734
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Costigan - you might find this of use - it's a (sort of) interactive dialogue tree for most if not all the conversations you can have with Miranda.

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The Everchosen of Chaos wrote...
LoL ash vs miranda would result in awesome= "Shepard is Mine"! scene. you know like the Sparta scene. seriously I think their will be a lot tension anyway even if you didn't romance Ashley in ME 1, since Ash is very anti Cerberus and she makes that clear on Horizon. Either way I think things are going to be very interesting on the Normandy once Ash steps onboard, can't wait to see what happens.

As said repeatedly: epic banter guaranteed between those two polar opposites. I hope we'll get them both together for a significant time. And that they keep it mature and it's not just catfights over Shepard. That would diminish both of them.

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Dr. Doctor wrote...
Judging from Miranda's line if you romance someone else in ME2 I don't think a Shepard who glossed over his relationship with Ash is going to fair too well.

Ash: I can drill him between the eyes from a hundred meters.
Miranda: As can I.
Ash: Should we tell him to start running, make things a little more interesting?
Miranda: We can try that after I bring him back again.
Ash: I like how you think.
Shepard: (running for the door) I should go!

:lol::lol:


@MsSihaKatieKrios:
Beautiful fan art.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 26 août 2011 - 09:26 .


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Costigan_n7 wrote...
Hey gang I've got A question. I'm doing another play through and it seems like I may have missed out o the romance. I got a response I don't even see on the dialogue tree. I let Miri kill hiker for the first time in a play through. At the conversation afterward she touched my sheps arm and said she couldn't let feelings get involved. I passed it of as nothing because even though I didn't remember that happening in my first two playthroughs it was on the wheel and so i didn't think about it and went on playing.

My strategy was to wait for the romance latei in the game so now I am about to go do the reaper IFF and go to talk to Miri and didn't get the sit on the couch scene. What did i do wrong? Should I have not said it was nice to see her smile?

There are two more conversations after the LM debriefing. I believe you only get the romance version of those conversations if you end the debriefing with "It's nice to see you smile". I recall that I tested this, but only once. I won't rule out I might be mistaken, but that's my current information.

Consult the Miranda online dialogue tree if you want to be spoiled. But that tree treats conversations on their own, there's no link between them that might tell you where you went wrong.

BTW, your name is highly suggestive of another famous SF epic....

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Made Nightwing wrote...
For Jacob, I proposed that he storm onto the battlefield in a captured Cerberus mech to help Jacob out. For Garrus, more sniping seems appropriate. Any thoughts/ideas/hopes for Miranda's comeback?


Yes. This is what I posted here some time ago - I'll just repost it since nobody follows links anyway:

Shepard and one team member are walking along a corridor. They've spent some time exploring this Cerberus station and are on high alert for enemies.

There's a thumping sound coming from behind a bulkhead. Then another. The bulkhead flies out of its frame, driven by the body someone has thrown against it. A blue afterglow is hanging in the air. Camera zooms on that body. Blood is seeping out of some cracks in its armor.

Camera swings to the opening. Miranda steps through, as composed as ever. Seeing Shepard, she raises one eyebrow.

Miranda (with a challenging smile): "You're late".

Shepard (looks pointedly at the body): "Seems you didn't need my help after all."

Miranda (self-deprecatingly): "Perhaps. I'd have escaped. But that's not enough."

Shepard: "So you went here on your own? What for?"

Miranda: "I'd heard Cerberus was after you. [if Miranda didn't resign: Nobody told me]. I wanted to know what's behind it. I had my own personal network within Cerberus, but they've all been subverted. That's how I got captured. When I noticed the strange behaviour, it was too late for escape. It appears they've been indoctrinated."

Miranda: "How could the Illusive Man let that happen? He knows what we're up against. Anyway, the rest of the station is on high alert now. No chance of slipping through undetected. If you aren't in a hurry to leave, together we might prevent this mission from becoming a total failure."

Shepard [romance option present if ME2 romance progressed past the promise scene] (smiling): "It would only have been a total failure if they'd got you."

Miranda (a mix of exasperation and amusement on her face): "We've got a job to do.....but..."

She steps closer, hesitates for a moment, then proceeds to kiss him. A few seconds pass as they continue kissing...

We hear another bulkhead opening with a hiss. Camera swings over to show Kai Leng standing in the opening, a squad of Cerberus guards behind him.

Kai Leng (sarcastically): "What a touching reunion! [if Miranda resigned: I knew there was more behind your betrayal than....professional disagreement]. Unfortunately it won't proceed beyond this point."

The boss fight of this mission ensues.


Modifié par Ieldra2, 26 août 2011 - 09:38 .


#10739
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^^ That sounds like a good way to meet her in the game. But she better become a squadmember after you deal with those Cerburus people!!! That's a hint Bioware :)

#10740
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Whew we are practically exploding! No wonder those butthurt taligroupies came in here and tried but failed (as per normal) to troll us. Anyways. I'd like a reunion scene whereby Shepard's team is pinned down, and the lights start going bat**** crazy, and after every flash, dead enemies start appearing till there's no more left.

Then, a female Cerberus commando lands gracefully behind the team and before anyone can do anything, she rushes up to Shepard and hugs him tightly while taking off her helmet. Then cue kissy reunion scene where they catch up for a while before leaving.

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MassEffect4Eva1710 wrote...
^^ That sounds like a good way to meet her in the game. But she better become a squadmember after you deal with those Cerburus people!!! That's a hint Bioware :)

I am not sure they would be able to take that hint, even if they wanted or needed to. I've read a developer comment that things are so far into production that they couldn't even add a cameo at this point, even less (that was not part of the comment) make a team member of a character who wasn't already planned to be one. Since every character has a story arc, it isn't just a matter of giving a character a place on the ship and add gameplay-related stuff, and it gets more difficult if off-screen activity had been planned for that character - as they have hinted there would be. 

Modifié par Ieldra2, 26 août 2011 - 02:11 .


#10742
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I am not sure they would be able to take that hint, even if they wanted or needed to. I've read a developer comment that things are so far into production that they couldn't even add a cameo at this point, even less (that was not part of the comment) make a team member of a character who wasn't already planned to be one. Since every character has a story arc, it isn't just a matter of giving a character a place on the ship and add gameplay-related stuff, and it gets more difficult if off-screen activity had been planned for that character - as they have hinted there would be. 


It does seem extremely likely that everything is pretty much set in stone at this point. I suppose a small exception might possibly be if they were having trouble getting Yvonne to sign on for extensive voice work, for scheduling reasons or whatever, and the prominence of Miranda's role depended on that.

In any event, I'll keep rooting for it until we get more news Posted Image 

EDIT: Really cool sketch, by the way. It does almost look like concept art.

Modifié par flemm, 26 août 2011 - 03:45 .


#10743
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As said repeatedly: epic banter guaranteed between those two polar opposites. I hope we'll get them both together for a significant time. And that they keep it mature and it's not just catfights over Shepard. That would diminish both of them.

I disagree. I don't think fighting for a LI diminishes them at all, reinforcing this notion is the likelihood that bad blood will occur between the two regardless if Shepard was a LI for either.

If a relationship is part of the equation in any form especially if it's Ash before death, Miranda afterwards it would definitely increase tensions. I don't see things ending with verbal jabs at one another but starting up a greater conflict because of it.

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Here's what's happening today@ PAX

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All times are Pacific

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I'm trying to be happy about what we got from Gamescom. But there's the sudden realization that we still can't see her! :unsure:

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Here's what's happening today@ PAX

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All times are Pacific


What's the link for PAX?

#10747
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Or anyone else not named Garrus and Liara.

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I will say this: as fans, we want info, info, info. But from the developer's point of view, it's really keeping info from us that makes the most sense for the most part. I understand that conceptually, even though it is going to bug me from now until March if we don't get some MORE INFO SOON. LoL.

RE: Miranda's entrance in the game, if she's left the Normandy's crew, and the Reaper invasion has reached earth, then I have a hard time imagining that she wouldn't committ to defending earth first and foremost. That's her whole agenda, really, protecting humanity. So meeting her while she's holding the line somewhere on earth seems pretty plausible to me as well. (But the Cerberus idea is also a good one.)

Modifié par flemm, 26 août 2011 - 05:37 .


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Maybe there'll be another demo at PAX, this afternoon (3PM). They showed at 10 AM the same demo of the other conferences, plus the Atlas fight and the (possible) ME3 starting screen.
So maybe we could finally see something new this afternoon. Hopefully new squadmates and another section of the game.

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I expect that they'll show the same demo if they show anything...which I'm getting sick of.

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