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[nitefyre410]

Skullheart wrote...

I liked the adaptation from Silent Hill, at least it doesn't suck.

 

Actually yes I liked that movie almost got into a fight because the people behind me would not shut up about how bad it was but yes I liked  - it gets a bad rap because its more of the  Japanese horror movie  more than an American one.

[Ieldra]

primoULTIMO wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I see some attempt to create a slightly different Miranda based on the player's way through the romance in ME2. I like that, but it can't go too far, or the character becomes disintegrated or appears too much under Shepard's influence. I can see emphasizing the detached or the more open Miranda, the one who embraces what she is and the one who reluctantly accepts it, but in no way should any of her core personality traits be completely lost. We've seen the results of that at the Collector base.

This! Couldn't have said it better, my thoughts are exactly like Ieldra2's. Can't understand where all this hate came from though...<_<

You mean the strong reaction to your other post?

That has something to do with my very intense dislike of stereotyping women as "the emotional sex". IIRC this is rooted in early classic romanticism, where being openly and highly emotional was painted as some kind of virtue for a woman. This has seeped into common western culture and one of the results is a reflex, whenever an emotionally reserved woman is encountered, to put that off as psychic armor hiding her true self, which is, of course, as emotional as, well, the stereotype.

I, on the other hand, do not count being open as a virtue, even less openly emotional. I think being reserved is desirable for almost all situations where no people you care about are involved, and sometimes even then. I love that trait in Miranda and I don't like it when someone tries to put if off as a surface trait, as "just a defense hiding her true self". We all see how much Miranda cares about her sister, and how she comes to trust Shepard, but that doesn't mean her reserve in other situations is false.

[Ieldra]

Vertigo_1 wrote...
There are two actually in the works right now:

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/106789181774245888
"Will there be a #masseffect movie soon?”

"There is alive action film in the works and an animated one too."

So?

I have very low expectations for any ME movie, animated or not. And since Miranda likely won't be in it, I care even less. It's possible we'll all be pleasantly surprised, but I believe that when I see it.

[ubermensch007]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Omega4RelayResident wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

There's two actually in the works right now:

https://twitter.com/...789181774245888
"Will there be a #masseffect movie soon?”

"There is a live action film in the works and an animated one too."

 


Yeah i have more faith in the Animated  one -  Hollywood and Video game  Movies - Not a good mix

Mortal Kombat movies...... nuff said..... what travesties

 

worst  the Street Fighter movie was   HERACY and they should be burned for that....  


To Answer question about whats to left out - I read article in  GI  awhile back  that  when It comes to making a game movie its not about whats left out its about whats added.  Here is way in game you have the player moving the plot  foward through game play  but in a Movie  its a more passive experience  so you need more.

This is were Hollywood adaptions  of video game  fail because  they add completely  stupid stuff and the change entirly to much.

Eh?! What's this I hear about you all dissing the first Mortal Kombat movie by Paul Anderson?




I can still remember what it was like being in that packed theater in 1995 watching it for the first time.After being dissapointed by Street Fighters Live Action showing the previous year.MK was like "mana from heaven" in comparison. :innocent:  The audiance went wild - Myself included...

Johnny Cage was hillarious and a total scene stealer.His fight with Scorpion is still one of the Best Martial Arts Fights on film.People were standing up -- Cheering and Applauding when next to all the characters were doing there moves from the game.The Music - The Sound Effects - Art Direction - The Action Chorogrephy - The Cast and Production Value and Directing and Editing were top notch.

Mortal Kombat was faithful to the source material like the Twilight Saga Films are now...

CuseGirl wrote... Yvonne Strahovski would be like 35 by the time ME-2 would go to
production and I dunno if she's gonna be as Strahotski by then.......

@CuseGirl: Yes well - Nothing wrong with Yvonne being "35".What with Operative Miranda Lawson actually being 35 years old and all in the game...

And Ms.Strahovski doesn't stike me as the type to "let herself go."

Modifié par ubermensch007, 02 septembre 2011 - 08:38 .

[Ieldra]

Urgh.....a Twilight picture. I request a removal.

[MassEffect4Eva1710]

^^ Seconded. HATE TWILIGHT!

anyway how about we talk about Miranda instead of movies that have nothing to do with mass effect? Anyone got any ideas?

[Hillbillyshep]

I like Twilight.
Serously.
I do.
...
Don´t forget to join the blonde Miranda-group!

[Ieldra]

MassEffect4Eva1710 wrote...
^^ Seconded. HATE TWILIGHT!

anyway how about we talk about Miranda instead of movies that have nothing to do with mass effect? Anyone got any ideas?

Everything has been rehashed ad infinitum. There is no new Miranda-related fanfic to discuss (Elyvern's epic chapter 6 is still is the works). Hmm...perhaps I should go over to ffn and look. Likely I'll be disappointed, if not by the lack of material, then by its quality.

Perhaps that would be a topic to discuss: the quality (or lack thereof, most of the time) of Miranda-related fanfic. But then I'd have to read all that stuff in its entirety. No thanks.

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

If the ME2 movie (shudder) were made today I'd vote Hayley Atwell (Peggy Carter in the Captain America movie).

That's a really good suggestion, actually. I would miss Yvonne's accent, though.

I think being reserved is desirable for almost all situations where no people you care about are involved, and sometimes even then. I love that trait in Miranda and I don't like it when someone tries to put if off as a surface trait, as "just a defense hiding her true self".

I agree on the substance, but I do think we could have been more diplomatic in responding to PrimoUltimo's original post. I don't think he actually disagrees with us


P.S.: Please, someone with the available files, engage Miranda picture spam to erase the Twilight image from my mind. I would be grateful

Modifié par flemm, 01 septembre 2011 - 02:22 .

[Ieldra]

OK....





And this one is captioned....

"....you DARE bring Twilight here?"

followed by this expression:

[flemm]

Thank you. My eyes and soul are cleansed

[Omega4RelayResident]

CuseGirl wrote...

Yvonne Strahovski would be like 35 by the time ME-2 would go to production and I dunno if she's gonna be as Strahotski by then.......

But yea, video game to movie screen seems to always turn out bad: Super Mario Bros, Wing Commander, Mortal Kombat, Prince of Persia, Resident Evil 1 thru 19.......The Tomb Raider ones were corny too.....but I'm also a little tired of Angelina Jolie, time to get a new kick-ass hottie.......

has anyone seen Columbiana yet?

OKAY hold up....

As an "Interpretation" of Super Mario Bros goes it was not a horrible one... It was kinda funny... besides Bob Hoskins is an incredible actor that makes most movies better than they realy were..... John Leguizamo always was and always will be funny.

Wing Commander was not awful based on the fact that it was a low budget Sci Fi flick. I hate Freddie Prince Jr. but I support Mathew Lillard for everything ever since SLC Punk. He is a great actor. It was a low budget Sci Fi flick so they couldnt exactly go all out in it. Honestly I can get on people's cases over liking Battlestar Galactica.... same problem with it... It tried to be Star Wars with a low budget.... finaces can turn a good idea into a mediocre one. Low budget and Sci Fi are two things that should not exist in the same sentance let alone the same movie. Perfect example: Avatar... a huge budget created an epic movie which was basically inspired from Pocahontas. Take away the budget and you end up with Pocahontas.  

Prince of Persia was not bad... as far as movie adaptations go. If there is anything about it you do not like you can blame Disney for that.

Okay Mila Jovovich did an excelent job in Resident Evil.... the first one I liked a lot.... and the score for the first movie was done by Marilyn Manson.... someone that actually knows how to make something sounds effed up and creepy. The sequels were controlled by Hollywood too much and thats what made Resident Evil movies seem bad.

[Ieldra]

Can we stick to the topic please. Movies unrelated to the ME universe are definitely too far away from this woman...

Modifié par Ieldra2, 01 septembre 2011 - 05:16 .

[The Everchosen of Chaos]

So do we have any pics of Miranda for ME 3 yet? would be interesting to see if she's changed at all, I hope the change does her justice.

BTW do you guys have any pics of Miranda wearing Armor? just a request.

[flemm]

The Everchosen of Chaos wrote...

So do we have any pics of Miranda for ME 3 yet? would be interesting to see if she's changed at all, I hope the change does her justice.

As far as I know, we've yet to have even the slightest glimpse. I do look forward to reading everyone's reactions to the first screenshot or concept art when we eventually get it, though.

[Omega4RelayResident]

Ieldra2 wrote...

primoULTIMO wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I see some attempt to create a slightly different Miranda based on the player's way through the romance in ME2. I like that, but it can't go too far, or the character becomes disintegrated or appears too much under Shepard's influence. I can see emphasizing the detached or the more open Miranda, the one who embraces what she is and the one who reluctantly accepts it, but in no way should any of her core personality traits be completely lost. We've seen the results of that at the Collector base.

This! Couldn't have said it better, my thoughts are exactly like Ieldra2's. Can't understand where all this hate came from though...<_<

You mean the strong reaction to your other post?

That has something to do with my very intense dislike of stereotyping women as "the emotional sex". IIRC this is rooted in early classic romanticism, where being openly and highly emotional was painted as some kind of virtue for a woman. This has seeped into common western culture and one of the results is a reflex, whenever an emotionally reserved woman is encountered, to put that off as psychic armor hiding her true self, which is, of course, as emotional as, well, the stereotype.

I, on the other hand, do not count being open as a virtue, even less openly emotional. I think being reserved is desirable for almost all situations where no people you care about are involved, and sometimes even then. I love that trait in Miranda and I don't like it when someone tries to put if off as a surface trait, as "just a defense hiding her true self". We all see how much Miranda cares about her sister, and how she comes to trust Shepard, but that doesn't mean her reserve in other situations is false.

Western Culture?.... dude realy? Its a global culture issue that existed since the Renaissance i think... Think of the criticism Queen Elizabeth got... Japaneese Geishas.... Middle-Eastern Cutlure.... and it is something I have discussed with people in depth over a long period of time.

It is not a Stereotype AT ITS CORE.... it is perceived as a stereotype by the majority... but it in fact in the psychological ROOT of the issue it is a cultural coincidence. Miranda is actually quite the liberated woman I must say... after reading the SB logs about her I was pleasantly shocked.

Women in general are far more responsible about sexual activity than men are... the invention of the Glory Hole is prime exhibit for mans sexual irresponsability. Men tend to be ready to get down and dirty whenever and wherever for the most part. Women end up with the luxury of being able to choose if and when it happens because they are humanitys gatekeepers of sex. It is as much of a luxury as it is a burden though because so many rules come with the responsability. Will they be treated well after the fact... will they be respected... is it going to be spread around ruining her reputation... we are in the 21st century now and women are far more liberated about sex than ever before... it still does not take the burden / luxury off of their shoulders about being the gatekeepers of sex.

It is attitude... because men are so casual about sex they do not have the burden / luxury about it. However men have their own stereotypes about it.... We are dogs.... We cant be raped.... We are unfaithfull.... stereotypes exist about every demographic out there.

To support your case though I believe religion is primarily responsible for the inherent stereotypes because the people in power at the time were men. It is something that filtered down the ages... but you cant accredit stereotypes to being merely stereotypes when clearly geneticists have proven that men are sexual "hunters" at the gentic level and women are the "quarry" that has the power to decide if they "get caught or not" at the genetic level. 

Bottom line I am just happy humanity shares no chromosones with Spiders or Praying Mantises.... getting killed and eatten starting with the head is not exactly the price I want to pay for getting laid. Then again I heard about Bridezillas.... hmmmm.... 

[Omega4RelayResident]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Urgh.....a Twilight picture. I request a removal.

I second this!

[Ieldra]

The Everchosen of Chaos wrote...

So do we have any pics of Miranda for ME 3 yet? would be interesting to see if she's changed at all, I hope the change does her justice.

BTW do you guys have any pics of Miranda wearing Armor? just a request.

Miranda in armor? How many do you want?

[flemm]

I like it. Not as a permanent thing, but I do like the armor and visor.

Modifié par flemm, 01 septembre 2011 - 05:45 .

[The Everchosen of Chaos]

Ah thanks love the pics, Miranda is Awesome in Armor. Oh about half a dozen if thats fine with you. I take it that the last two pics show the Cerberus armor right?

[Ieldra]

@Omega4RelayResident:
This was neither an issue of cultural power nor a question of sex. That women are widely painted as "the emotional sex" is actually quite recent and very distinct of the other dimensions of women's role in society.
As for the other thing, you express - not for the first time - an unwarranted certainty in this matter. Your viewpoint has been widely challenged, but I don't want to derail this thread so let's keep it at that.

[Ieldra]

The Everchosen of Chaos wrote...
Ah thanks love the pics, Miranda is Awesome in Armor. Oh about half a dozen if thats fine with you. I take it that the last two pics show the Cerberus armor right?

They all show Miranda's armor from the Alternate Appearance Pack 2. There is no other armor for Miranda except an old retexture mod that makes the "armor" as close-fitting as her catsuits and looks quite dreadful. 

[Skullheart]

isn't there a mod that turns white the AAP2 armor?

[TheMarshal]

Skullheart wrote...

isn't there a mod that turns white the AAP2 armor?

Yes.  I'm pretty sure it's just a texmod reskin, but I don't have the AAP so I won't get to use it 


Clicky

[flemm]

Is there anything in the "extended universe" stuff, like comics or similar things that I might not have seen, that gives us any more info about Miranda's father and the nature of his business?

I was going through that section of the game and was really struck this time but how little info is actually given. That's especially true since the whole idea of a businessman breeding a "perfect" daughter as heir to his financial empire is so odd to begin with.

Modifié par flemm, 01 septembre 2011 - 08:33 .