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[steej]

I’m gonna take a whole bunch of stick for this, but;

Miranda should be an enemy as should jack, and Zaeed, in ME3.

Looks at it for a moment, Miranda is Cerberus through and through.
She should be a 'baddie' in ME3.
Jacob was just doing ‘the right thing’ but had no real fondness for Cerberus, so should be signed back up to the alliance along with Joker and Sheppard.

Jack is a punk, pure and simple.
She still has crimes to pay for, maybe she could be fugitive from the law, while Zaeed is a merc.
He has no allegiance to you, he’s in it for the cash and was on Cerberus' dime.

[UndeadElement]

Possible but shes leave cerberus if you blow up the base and shes in your squad at the end 

Modifié par Commander Hollyman, 02 septembre 2011 - 02:44 .

[flemm]

steej wrote...

Miranda should be an enemy as should jack, and Zaeed, in ME3.

It's a possibility where Miranda is concerned, at least in certain scenarios. I actually brought it up myself somewhere higher in the thread. Still, I think it's unlikely, due to the fact that Miranda is allied with Shepard no matter what decision is made regarding the Collector Base.

[Sanunes]

Personally, I would like to see all LIs make in back as permanent squad members in ME3, the problem with a couple of the LIs in ME2 is that people went out of their way to kill them and Miranda seems to be one of the more common ones this happened to.

[cyborg2501]

My [not 100% informed] prediction on Miranda's involvement - she's resigned from Cerberus and has known for some time that this is what she wanted, ever since she's been working with Shepard. Additionally, she knows she'll be receiving a significant sum of money related to her father's fortune, which she already has plans to use. She skips town for awhile while Shepard is at trial, then rejoins Shepard later on in the game at a pivotal plot moment COMMANDING HER OWN SHIP. She's assembled the Cerberus defectors into a team of her own to fight alongside Shepard. From here, she may join your squad for several missions, or perhaps you get to coordinate the actions of multiple ships of multiple races. Miranda has always been on a mostly level playing field w/ Shep, and what better way to continue the romance than with Miranda as another commander. That would also put her and Ashley on a similar level since Ash is now a Spectre. Both of them might love Shep, but you're forced to choose between them. I wouldn't be surprised if one of them makes this decision for Shep based on your dialogue choices, and sacrifices herself in a selfless act for the team.

Then, let the tears commence.

[cyborg2501]

Miranda will come to Shep and save HIS ass, not the other way around. And think about her "unfinished business" with Shep in this way - there will undoubtedly be a long cut scene right at the beginning of the game where Miranda departs and she and Shep have a goodbye conversation (esp. if she was a LI). She'll probably promise to return to him because she and him have "unfinished business" (i.e. we have a relationship to continue, once this is all over). I think of that phrase as less of a cryptic plot clue and more like some actual dialogue that is said from Miranda to Shep at the beginning of the game. The devs dropping that little hint is the perfect way of getting people wondering and talking, when in all actuality it's something far simpler. Not that it excites me any less :-)

Modifié par cyborg2501, 02 septembre 2011 - 05:24 .

[Ieldra]

cyborg2501 wrote...
My [not 100% informed] prediction on Miranda's involvement - she's resigned from Cerberus and has known for some time that this is what she wanted, ever since she's been working with Shepard.

[prayer wheel mode]
Actually, no, she didn't in 37% of all games.
[/prayer wheel mode]

She'll start ME3 away from Shepard anyway, and if you kept the base, I think it's possible she starts ME3 still with Cerberus. That won't last, though.

Additionally, she knows she'll be receiving a significant sum of money related to her father's fortune, which she already has plans to use. She skips town for awhile while Shepard is at trial, then rejoins Shepard later on in the game at a pivotal plot moment COMMANDING HER OWN SHIP.

I would absolutely *love* that. I can't see it coming though. She'll rejoin Shepard at some point, and it may be at a very important moment, but I don't think they'll give her her own ship.

She's assembled the Cerberus defectors into a team of her own to fight alongside Shepard. From here, she may join your squad for several missions, or perhaps you get to coordinate the actions of multiple ships of multiple races. Miranda has always been on a mostly level playing field w/ Shep, and what better way to continue the romance than with Miranda as another commander. That would also put her and Ashley on a similar level since Ash is now a Spectre. Both of them might love Shep, but you're forced to choose between them. I wouldn't be surprised if one of them makes this decision for Shep based on your dialogue choices, and sacrifices herself in a selfless act for the team.

Hmm....I think that's possible. Though I would dislike it if people went to sacrifice themselves just for being rejected. That's cheap. If she dies at all, what I'd rather see is that the rejected one leaves the team to contribute to the war somewhere else, and is subsequently killed in action.

[flemm]

Well, I don't think anyone's life or death is going to depend on status in a romance. That's especially true since the LI dying in certain scenarios is the more interesting eventuality.

Anyway, those are some quality ideas, cyborg2501. I especially like your concept that she has been planning to establish her own organization for some time, in effect from prior to the beginning of ME2.

It's a minor point, but I think you may be reading a bit too much into the "unfinished business" expression, though. It was used at one point regarding Tali as well, so it's just one of those vague turns of phrase developers throw around to sort of say something, while in fact not revealing anything at all.

Modifié par flemm, 02 septembre 2011 - 06:24 .

[Ieldra]

cyborg2501 wrote...
Miranda will come to Shep and save HIS ass, not the other way around.

That would be epic! I hope we'll see it.

And think about her "unfinished business" with Shep in this way - there will undoubtedly be a long cut scene right at the beginning of the game where Miranda departs and she and Shep have a goodbye conversation (esp. if she was a LI). She'll probably promise to return to him because she and him have "unfinished business" (i.e. we have a relationship to continue, once this is all over). I think of that phrase as less of a cryptic plot clue and more like some actual dialogue that is said from Miranda to Shep at the beginning of the game. The devs dropping that little hint is the perfect way of getting people wondering and talking, when in all actuality it's something far simpler. Not that it excites me any less :-)

Actually, I don't think there will be a departing scene. The game will start on Earth. And this "unfinished business" will not be about the romance, because they said "especially if romanced", meaning that this is only part of it. But again, maybe I'm reading too much into it.

[cyborg2501]

Though I would dislike it if people went to sacrifice themselves just for being rejected. That's cheap. If she dies at all, what I'd rather see is that the rejected one leaves the team to contribute to the war somewhere else, and is subsequently killed in action.

Agreed, though I don't think that person would run off and get themselves killed just because Shep rejected them... They would just find themselves in that situation because of the way the storyline plays out. They'd go out as a hero, being remembered in their own right for their actions as opposed to just "the one that Shep rejected".  Maybe there would be some circumstance where they could be saved from death, maybe if certain paragon/renegade or plot conditions are met (like the ship upgrades in ME2).

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...


[prayer wheel mode]
Actually, no, she didn't in 37% of all games.
[/prayer wheel mode]

LoL :happy:

What will be even funnier is if it turns out she actually does resign in all scenarios

Modifié par flemm, 02 septembre 2011 - 06:26 .

[jtav]

I think she'll either have left or be back with Cerberus in all games. What changes is why.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

We need a Miri pic on this page:wub:!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 02 septembre 2011 - 06:31 .

[Ieldra]

flemm wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
[prayer wheel mode]
Actually, no, she didn't in 37% of all games.
[/prayer wheel mode]

LoL :happy:
What will be even funnier is if it turns out she actually does resign in all scenarios

She will leave in the end, I think. Just not at the start of ME3 if you kept the base. She has no reason to, yet.

[cyborg2501]

She'll probably hang around until the reapers attack, I bet that's when she jets... She'll have something more important to do than just fighting, whether thats bringing in reinforcements or taking some action crucial to taking down the reapers. Would be awesome if her father had some key information, like how to defeat the reapers and she was forced to confront him about it because she *needed* the information. It's like, I hate you, but I need you now so let's work together, pops

[flemm]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

We need a Miri pic on this page:wub:!


**snip***

True. It helps to maintain a constant visual reference frame in mind

[cyborg2501]

Random thing I'm excited for - hearing what the new romance theme will sound like on the soundtrack. I love both the ME1 and ME2 ost, and "The Normandy Reborn" gives me chills every time. And every time I hear the romance theme, all I can think of is how awesome it would sound in, say, an engine room. I hope it's a bit less somber and a bit more...climactic, shall we say?

[flemm]

cyborg2501 wrote...
Would be awesome if her father had some key information, like how to defeat the reapers and she was forced to confront him about it because she *needed* the information. It's like, I hate you, but I need you now so let's work together, pops

The possibility that Miranda's father might know something about the Reapers has actually occurred to me in the past. Not the "key" to defeating them, that's pretty far-fetched, but perhaps some relevant information. He had ties to Cerberus prior to Miranda joining them, and TIM seems pretty informed on the subject.

His whole motivation in creating Miranda is so obscure... There is certainly room for something to be developed here, should the writers choose to go in that direction.

Modifié par flemm, 02 septembre 2011 - 08:09 .

[primoULTIMO]

cyborg2501 wrote...

My [not 100% informed] prediction on Miranda's involvement - she's resigned from Cerberus and has known for some time that this is what she wanted, ever since she's been working with Shepard.

Hmm... I'd prefer to think of it as a tough decision that she had to make out of necessity rather then a 'clear cut' one. It would seem pretty out of character that the 'loyalist' actually found it easy to leave the organisation that she used to speak so highly of. It would be interesting to see her have a conflicting opinion on the matter throughout Me3, especially if she isn't a LI.

Additionally, she knows she'll be receiving a significant sum of money related to her father's fortune, which she already has plans to use. She skips town for awhile while Shepard is at trial, then rejoins Shepard later on in the game at a pivotal plot moment COMMANDING HER OWN SHIP. She's assembled the Cerberus defectors into a team of her own to fight alongside Shepard. From here, she may join your squad for several missions, or perhaps you get to coordinate the actions of multiple ships of multiple races. Miranda has always been on a mostly level playing field w/ Shep, and what better way to continue the romance than with Miranda as another commander.

Hell yes that would be awesome. It would really bring out that strong/ independent trait she shows and that ALL of us love. Hopefully she'll give Shepard a run for his money as the better commander .

I hope it's a bit less somber and a bit more...climactic, shall we say?

This! However, I don't want it to be cheesy or portraying her as sweet or vulnerable (like most modern love stories do imo).

Modifié par primoULTIMO, 02 septembre 2011 - 11:02 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

d140 wrote...

miranda looks beautiful

Most Definitely!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 02 septembre 2011 - 11:00 .

[jtav]

Basic math/biology question. If Miranda is 75, approximately how old should she appear? In other words, when did her slower aging kick in?

[Sepewrath]

jtav wrote...

Basic math/biology question. If Miranda is 75, approximately how old should she appear? In other words, when did her slower aging kick in?

Kick in? Someone who ages slowly would always age slowly, from the day their born.