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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Omega4RelayResident wrote...
I wonder if there is a way Miri can use the Lazarus Project tech to solve her infertility problem? It brought Shep back to life... it could stimulate an organ back into a functioning state.

Yep. That's another way out of the infertility. I have envisioned an epilogue conversation where Shepard says that he can't imagine Miranda won't find a solution to her infertility after having brought him back from the dead, if she wants to.

Heh...it's interesting. My main Shepard and Miranda have an inclination to think nothing is impossible for the other. And who can say it isn't true after what Shepard and Miranda have done.

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Omega4RelayResident wrote...
If that is the case I'll even sell the Normandy to get her to be ok and healthy.


fanfiction, it's like an internet virus....how r u gonna stimulate growth of new ovaries and where r u gonna get eggs from?

wut exactly is her condition? is it lack of viable gametes or inability for male gametes to find hers?

can't believe i'm asking this question about an imaginary person.....

As by the dossier, the problem is with conception. There is a solution for any specific condition. In the worst case, artificial gametogenesis cannot be that far into the future in the real world (consult this paper), so we can assume it's possible in the ME universe, and regular IVF will do the rest.  

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What if Miranda, sole purpose was to use that guy with the clean medical record for "reconstructing Shepard" before ME2?

doubt it....dont read that far into it.....she went over there to get laid....


Seriously, I don't understand people's obsession with the fear that Miranda was having sex before their characters hooked up.  I, for one, wouldn't believe - nor want - her to be a virgin.  For all they are touted as the "greatest thing since sex itself", virgins are clumsy, lacking self confidence, and overall not very good in bed.  I would much rather have someone who knew how to please me, and what she needed to please herself in return.

Obviously not everyone wants to think about the people their current love interest has had sex with; but if you're fixating on that, that's really a problem with you - not her character. 

I would be dumbfounded if someone as self confident and attractive as Miranda had not had sex prior to hooking up with Shepard ... especially considering her and Jacob used to be a thing. (and I doubt Jacob would have missed his chance at tha priiiize)

It's pure and plain jealousy by proxy, nothing more. I don't think many people seriously believe Miranda has no sexual experience, though there was some debate on the first Miranda thread, touched off by ToshiStation38 who insisted it's plausible Miranda is a virgin, and after ComTrav posted that unfortunate but unforgettable motivational that appears to be offline now.

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I like her sexual experience, all the more because it's not something that needs to be justified by heaps of trauma. She's capable of deep romantic feeling and that's enough for me.

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jtav wrote...

I like her sexual experience, all the more because it's not something that needs to be justified by heaps of trauma. She's capable of deep romantic feeling and that's enough for me.


This. Too often it feels like the choice is between innocent first-timers, or characters where the writers use trauma to "apologize for" or "justify" past sexual and romantic experience. They don't need justification. Miranda has nothing to apologize for in that regard. She can use what she's learned about herself in the past to enhance communication with Shepard about her likes and dislikes, and both will benefit. If someone's version of Shepard can't handle a LI with experience, there are others to choose from...but at Shep's age and with everything he/she has been through, I don't really see the Commander having that problem.

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I don't even understand where does this whole... ''Eekh! She's had sex with someone else, she's been.. ''defiled'' '' Comes from.. Maybe they just haven't been out in the real world yet.

It doesn't bother me personally, would I like to the people Miri's been sleeping with? Of course not, still that's bit different case anyhow. I'd just be annoyed, if they'd rub something that may or may not have happened, between Miri and Jacob for example, to my face.

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Melrache wrote...

I don't even understand where does this whole... ''Eekh! She's had sex with someone else, she's been.. ''defiled'' '' Comes from.. Maybe they just haven't been out in the real world yet.

It doesn't bother me personally, would I like to the people Miri's been sleeping with? Of course not, still that's bit different case anyhow. I'd just be annoyed, if they'd rub something that may or may not have happened, between Miri and Jacob for example, to my face.

 

I doesn't bother me either  -   its more of the  personally security issue  - she is a grown woman she  can and would have other lovers besides  Shepard. Nothing wrong with that at all.

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Nope, not at all. I like the fact that she is experiences. Her character wouldn't be the same if she wasn't. A woman as sultry and sexy as she would not exist if she has experienced sex before. I'm sure if Shepard wanted it she could feign innocence, but who would seriously want that if she already has skill?

I would much rather have a Miranda who is dominant and knows what she is doing in bed, not a fumbling virgin.

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LexieTheT-Rexy wrote...

Nope, not at all. I like the fact that she is experiences. Her character wouldn't be the same if she wasn't. A woman as sultry and sexy as she would not exist if she has experienced sex before. I'm sure if Shepard wanted it she could feign innocence, but who would seriously want that if she already has skill?

I would much rather have a Miranda who is dominant and knows what she is doing in bed, not a fumbling virgin.


I totally agree with this! ;)

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elearon1 wrote...

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I don't agree necessarily. To me; the iPartners situation was simply Miranda needing sex. No emotional entanglement, no added 'complications' just a fun no strings attached sort of thing. The difference between that and her relationship with Jacob (and later Shephard) was just that; a relationship.

At least, that's how I read it.


Agreed, it suggests that Miranda approaches even casual sex with a level of professionalism and preparation that most people never bother with.  She likes to know what she is getting into; and more importantly, that she won't be taking anything away.  

Sex and relationships are not the same thing - one is an act of pleasure seeking and release, the other an emotional commitment.  There is no reason she - or anyone for that matter - should approach the two in the same way. 



Interesting thoughts. It's an interpretation that I could potentially get on board with. That said, I'm not sure that the info in the game really supports that point of view, at least not directly.

It's worth pointing out, while we're on the subject, that the SB data has little to do with Miranda's level of sexual experience or virginal purity, as the case may be. I certainly would assume that she and Jacob had sex and that a ridiculously hot 35 year-old woman would have had other experiences, as many as she felt like having, etc. It's the approach in the SB files that's odd, especially since it's followed up by the dossier on her infertility, which really doesn't make much sense if it's just a matter of finding anonymous partners for entertaining sex.

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flemm wrote...
I certainly would assume that she and Jacob had sex

What about her and TIM or her and Nicket?
I've always imagined that she's had a sexual realtionship with each of them at some point.

What do Miranda's fans believe?

Modifié par GodWood, 07 septembre 2011 - 02:06 .


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Well, we know Miranda and Jacob were in a relationship. As far as I know, there's no such info with regard to the other characters you mentioned.

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Hence why I said believe

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GodWood wrote...

flemm wrote...
I certainly would assume that she and Jacob had sex

What about her and TIM or her and Nicket?
I've always imagined that she's had a sexual realtionship with each of them at some point.

What do Miranda's fans believe?

TIM? I don't think so. She's too professional to sleep with the boss. But yes, I think there was something between her and Niket when they were young. Not a real relationship - her father wouldn't have stood for that - but frienship with the occasional secret meeting, including some experimenting around.

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GodWood wrote...

Hence why I said believe


I don't have any beliefs on the subject tbh. If there's no info on it in the game, then it is in the realm of fan fiction. Which is great, for those interested in fan fiction, of course.

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TIM? I don't think so. She's too professional to sleep with the boss.

I think it's entirely possible.

He's a charming, womanizer.
She's gentically engineered to be perfect.
And they're both perfectly capable of having casual sex without any emotional attachment.

I wouldn't think it's too far fetched to believe that they'd hook up upon the occasional success of a Cerberus operation or something.

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flemm wrote...

Well, we know Miranda and Jacob were in a relationship.


That really made her romance arc tough for me to follow through on.

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DaftArbiter wrote...


That really made her romance arc tough for me to follow through on.


Why, out of curiosity?

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flemm wrote...

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That really made her romance arc tough for me to follow through on.


Why, out of curiosity?


You're getting Mr. But the Priiiiize's sloppy seconds. If she's willing to stoop that low, who else has been on that?

...I still use her as a squaddie about two thirds of the time in the first half of the game, so no, this isn't hate. But that broke the sexual event horizon for me.

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I killed Jacob because of that

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We don't even know if Miranda and Jacob did do it. It's only speculation they "got close"... it could be anything.

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DaftArbiter wrote...

flemm wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...


That really made her romance arc tough for me to follow through on.


Why, out of curiosity?


You're getting Mr. But the Priiiiize's sloppy seconds. If she's willing to stoop that low, who else has been on that?

...I still use her as a squaddie about two thirds of the time in the first half of the game, so no, this isn't hate. But that broke the sexual event horizon for me.


Have fun with ''sloppy seconds'' in reality. And Jacob isn't that bad, I mean he's not bad looking and he seems just like decent guy, until the ''Prize''. Even as a guy I can say, that Jacob looks far better than the default Shepard imo. :blush:

I mean Shepards standards are possible to be way lower in the game.

But meh Shepard is kinda uninteresting character as well, I think Miri just likes boring guys.

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GodWood wrote...
I think it's entirely possible.
 

Possible? Obviously.
However, I don't think it's probrable.
For one, I doubt Miranda would want to give any truth to any rumour that migth have existed of her sleeping her way to the top.
And I don't think it's in TIM's character to sleep with Cerberus operatives. It's contrasts with the image of a God he tries to create for himself.

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I suspect her relationships with Shepard and Jacob have a lot to do with their functions as player self-inserts.

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Melrache wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

flemm wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...


That really made her romance arc tough for me to follow through on.


Why, out of curiosity?


You're getting Mr. But the Priiiiize's sloppy seconds. If she's willing to stoop that low, who else has been on that?

...I still use her as a squaddie about two thirds of the time in the first half of the game, so no, this isn't hate. But that broke the sexual event horizon for me.


Have fun with ''sloppy seconds'' in reality. And Jacob isn't that bad, I mean he's not bad looking and he seems just like decent guy, until the ''Prize''. Even as a guy I can say, that Jacob looks far better than the default Shepard imo.


Trust me, I know how that works. It would've been okay if it had been anyone else. Anyone. But Jacob? Really? Image IPB