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[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
The VS is now apparently showing up in demos. I think we might be able to make an educated guess about Miranda's squad status based on Kaidan's powerset and how it differs from hers.

In demos? Where did you get that?

[Melra]

I'd like to see some possible ''gifts'' as well, not DA style, but something you could do for the LI, that might not be necessary to keep up the romance, but something you could do, go out of your way for it and get one heartwarming scene or something.

Omega4RelayResident wrote...

I know this is way off topic but vote for Garrus for the love of mercy! uk.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-sidekick/vote/battle-hub/index.html

Why? HK is more awesum den Garrus will ever be.

[Vertigo_1]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
The VS is now apparently showing up in demos. I think we might be able to make an educated guess about Miranda's squad status based on Kaidan's powerset and how it differs from hers.

In demos? Where did you get that?

GAMEFest

[jtav]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
The VS is now apparently showing up in demos. I think we might be able to make an educated guess about Miranda's squad status based on Kaidan's powerset and how it differs from hers.

In demos? Where did you get that?

A guy on the Kaidan thread apparently played a demo with Ash as a party member. There was also apparently an option to choose gender. I'm not connvinced he's telling the truth, though.

[Vertigo_1]

jtav wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
The VS is now apparently showing up in demos. I think we might be able to make an educated guess about Miranda's squad status based on Kaidan's powerset and how it differs from hers.

In demos? Where did you get that?

A guy on the Kaidan thread apparently played a demo with Ash as a party member. There was also apparently an option to choose gender. I'm not connvinced he's telling the truth, though.

Yeah same considering the Tokyo Game Show/Expo has Sur'kesh, I doubt GAMEFest would have something new like that.

This is the post BTW: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/7625879/313#8346593

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 18 septembre 2011 - 07:50 .

[jtav]

But I do think Kaidan having Warp and Overload would more or less doom Miranda's chances of being perma-squad.

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

But I do think Kaidan having Warp and Overload would more or less doom Miranda's chances of being perma-squad.

I don't think so, necessarily. He'll be in a minority of games, and Casey Hudson (I believe it was) has already stated that there will be some overlap in squadmate powers, giving the example of both Ashley and Garrus having Concussive shot. When you combine that with the possibility of Miranda's own abilities being reconfigured somewhat, I don't think any strong conclusions could be drawn either way.

Modifié par flemm, 18 septembre 2011 - 08:01 .

[Collider]

It would be interesting if you were presented with the option of starting a romance with Miranda in ME3. Hopefully she's not having the same self-confidence problems with her genetic engineering.

[Melra]

Well, we've listened to Tali's whining for two past games already. I can't see why Miri shouldn't have her own problems.

[jtav]

I think a difference kind of confidence issue is appropriate. Just who is Miranda without Cerberus?

[Collider]

jtav wrote...
I think a difference kind of confidence issue is appropriate. Just who is Miranda without Cerberus?

Right, that's what I was also thinking. It would be a more interesting issue due to being both relevant and new.

[naledgeborn]

Melrache wrote...

Well, we've listened to Tali's whining for two past games already. I can't see why Miri shouldn't have her own problems.

Because Miranda isn't a whiner. For someone who claims to love the character and all her qualites you seem to not know much about her...

[LexieTheT-Rexy]

She holds a severe, cold hatred for all of the things that her father did to her and Oriana. A confrontation with the man will be needed for her to get over her distain for her genetic engineering.

[MisterJB]

Ieldra2 wrote...
No she doesn't imply that. She says "it was a mistake", which doesn't imply *any* moral connotation, even less a categorical one. She might as well have been thinking "the results aren't worth the cost", which is consequentialist.
I also see no hint of sentimentality there, not even empathy with Jack.

Her attempt to disassociate Cerberus from Pragia, especially the way she worded it “It wasn’t Cerberus, not really”, implies that she doesn’t believe the group would stand for what happened there which implies moral connotations.
The lack of empathy towards Jack is probably due to the way she acts. Miranda has dismay in her voice when she sees the conditions the children lived in.

Modifié par MisterJB, 18 septembre 2011 - 10:14 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Jack has a horrible attitude, a loose canon. Too psychotic. 


Miri FTW:wub:!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 18 septembre 2011 - 10:16 .

[ubermensch007]

Collider wrote...

flemm wrote...

Collider wrote...

I like the Miranda friendship path.
Edit: Although it feels very uncomfortable for Miranda to call Shepard (or anyone) "the best humanity has to offer."

Why, exactly, out of curiosity? I honestly can't remember what those lines are like in context.

Feels too much like hero worship. And she's putting herself down in the process.
The basic gist of the entire conversation is Miranda telling Shepard that she was wrong and that Shepard is close to if not perfect.

I didn't think that it was "hero worship" at all... In fact I saw this scene as an affirmation by the writers of Mass Effect 2.That for all the benefits and blessings that can come from money.Some talents and profficencies at certain skill sets, can't be bought.

1. Commander Shepard is a great public speaker.Miranda's fathers scientist have yet to find the gene responsible for that socially advantageous ability.

2. Commander Shepard has an "aura" about him.As Kasumi puts it, when you recruit her.There's something about the guy.He just has that "It" Factor As its called.That's something else you can't aquire from gene modification.

3. Commander Shepard (to use Miranda's own words - I'm paraphrasing) "You have something that i don't have.Something that makes people willing to follow you into hell and back!"

This is why Operative Lawson comes to see Shepard as "the best humanity has to offer" Or said another way: "The right man for the job." She never says that Shepard is "infailable" or the embodiment of perfection.

I personally grew to like Miri alot more during this confession of hers.It takes alot of character and integrity to be honest with people.It takes more to be honest with yourself.And for Miranda to come clean like that.Earned her alot of respect with me.

A great example of what separtes Shepard from Miranda.Is how they react to the Normandy SR2 crash landing after destroying the Collector ship.

Miranda says, "We all knew that this might be a one way trip."

(Renegade) Shepard says, I'll do whatever it takes to defeat the Collectors.But i plan on living to tell about it."

Joker responds, "I'm glad your in charge, Shepard."

Modifié par ubermensch007, 18 septembre 2011 - 10:38 .

[LexieTheT-Rexy]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Jack has a horrible attitude, a loose canon. Too psychotic. 


Miri FTW:wub:!

HUZZAH!!

[jtav]

I would love it if Miranda could scrounge up some empathy for Jack. I'd say her background merits it. It doesn't remove responsibility for what she's done, but I pity Jack just as I pty Miranda.

[LexieTheT-Rexy]

Well, this was fun to make. XD

[ubermensch007]

I sware... Sometimes I am of two minds concerning Operative Miranda Lawson...

There is the part of me that wishes she would have stayed true to Cerberus Ideals and came to blows with Shepard over the fate of the Collector Base.

And then there is the other part of me that completly understands why she resigned from Cerberus:

I don't think that her resignation was all that abrupt at all.Miranda has been with Cerberus for years.She spent two years of her life, doing all within her power and intellect to bring Shepard back among the living.She studied this man.She learned everything she could about him.It is clear from the Prologue in ME2 that takes place in 2183 - that she was already a great admirer of Shepard.I don't doubt for a second that she came to hold Shepard in much higher esteem than the Illusive Man.Cerberus may be all about protecting humanity and advancing its interest.TIM may have big plans for the human race, but Shepard's actions brought about great change an advancement for humanity.

From Miranda's perspective: Jack Harper, talks the talk.But Commander Shepard, walks the walk...

Now consider that Miranda was assigned to the Normandy SR2 to keep an eye on Shepard, Report back to TIM, and help Shepard save humanity.She is in th thick of things.But being on this side of a Cerberus operation, and not by the Illusive Man's side.She starts to see things differently.

As your party members in Dragon Age: Orgin can either "Approve" or "Disapprove" of your actions.Miranda finds herself not in agreement with much of what TIM is doing.Circumventing Shepard's command.Making unilateral decisions without informing anyone.Jeopordizing everything they are working to acheive.

Miranda was on that Collector ship.

Miranda was on Horizon when its the first she herself and  Shepard and Co. here about rumors concerning Commander Shepard.
Ms.Lawson saw how the Illusive Man was doing all within his power to limit Shepard's options and she didn't like this.It reminded her to much of how her father use to treat her.And if you notice, Miranda goes about trying to get Shepard to join Cerberus in her own way.During the course of the game.And TIM is undermining all the work she's putting in. <_< Miri at times is much better at recruiting than TIM is...

So when the Suicide Mission pops off.Miranda finds herself at an impasse.After being with Shepard as they clean up Cerberus mishaps all over the damn galaxy.Given that organizations track record.She isn't about to give the Collector Base to such an organization... And she herself, no longer wishes to associate herself with the likes of Cerberus.And I guess, given all that's happened.I can understand that...

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Is Chuck nominated for anything at the Emmys tonight? Is Yvonne:wub:?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 18 septembre 2011 - 11:07 .

[jtav]

Chuck is not nominated for anything.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Not even Yvonne?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 18 septembre 2011 - 11:17 .

[MisterJB]

You know, there's something called "Google"... It's quite useful.

edit: Oh, Game of Thrones was nominated. Nice.

Modifié par MisterJB, 18 septembre 2011 - 11:26 .