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[The Uncanny]

TheMarshal wrote...

I don't want to be anyone's "savior" anymore...

I think I've had quite enough of 'please fix me'-mances.

[Lenimph]

Yeah why can't Shep be the one who gets consoled and "fixed" for once.

[ladyvader]

Ieldra2 wrote...


Speculating that this "unfinished business" Miranda has with Shepard might tie into the same problem - only Miranda can solve it without Shepard's death while TIM as usual doesn't bother and throws his erstwhile ally away.

Didn't the devs also say the same thing about Tali?  She she has "unfinished business" with Shepard?

I take it two ways.  Same with Miranda.  It has to do with their romance or in Miranda's case something to do with Cerberus and in Tali's case something to do with the quarian/geth conflict.

[Melra]

Lenimph wrote...

Yeah why can't Shep be the one who gets consoled and "fixed" for once.

Why does anyone need to be saved at all? I don't even want to imagine how Meer would perform voice acting a scene where he's at loss and all ''Awww u saaaveed meeeh''. Not that I would want Miri in such scene either.

[Lenimph]

OMG I would love... love love love love love... to see MShep get "saved" ...

Modifié par Lenimph, 21 septembre 2011 - 06:25 .

[Melra]

Lenimph wrote...

OMG I would love... love love love love love... to see MShep get "saved" ...

Only if he's mute

[Lenimph]

Melrache wrote...

Only if he's mute

 Meer can totally do it.  He secretly has a bunch of talent... (a.k.a Jethann)

Modifié par Lenimph, 21 septembre 2011 - 06:26 .

[Vertigo_1]

Lenimph wrote...

Melrache wrote...

Only if he's mute

 Meer can totally do it.  He secretly has a bunch of talent... (a.k.a Jethann)

Oh yes I wasn't expecting that from him (Jethann)
Or I should say I had to double check when the said it was Meer who did the VO for him.
He did a really good job there

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 21 septembre 2011 - 06:33 .

[jtav]

So if Cerberus were hunting Shep because they perceive Shep as Saren, would you like if a "cure" plot was Miranda's primary contribution.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I love the idea. It's dramatic, gives Miranda a reason to be on the Normandy and have lots of nice banter instead of off doing her own thing. My only concern is whether they'd give a mortal character something that significant.

Yeah, probably not. But we can hope.

BTW, don't remind me of Miranda's possible temp status, that makes me angry and brings my resentment of Garrus and Tali to the fore. :pinched:

[jtav]

I wasn't speaking of squad status, just whether Shepard's survival should depend on Miranda's. Hunting TIM would also give her a reason to stay, but the impact of her death would be localized.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
So if Cerberus were hunting Shep because they perceive Shep as Saren, would you like if a "cure" plot was Miranda's primary contribution.

Don't know. It would depend on the presentation. Likely I would expect her to be significant in the Cerberus angle as well, and if she wasn't I'd be disappointed. I would not like if that "cure" was her only contribution plot-wise - I'm really sick of female LIs relegated to the healer roles. I want some Miranda badassery as well.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 21 septembre 2011 - 06:52 .

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I wasn't speaking of squad status, just whether Shepard's survival should depend on Miranda's. Hunting TIM would also give her a reason to stay, but the impact of her death would be localized.

Of course I wouldn't mind that, but it won't happen. Just wondering if something can still be done with that idea.

One other thing I was speculating about was the possibility of reconciling with TIM. On behalf of my two Renegades I don't like where things appear to be going in ME3.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 21 septembre 2011 - 06:59 .

[jtav]

I don't think we can reconcile with TIM. Either New Cerberus or nothing. And I wouldn't mind Miranda as medic/scientist, long as she could still fight on missions.

What I fear is she'll be Kai Leng chow.

Modifié par jtav, 21 septembre 2011 - 07:09 .

[Caihn]

ladyvader wrote...

Didn't the devs also say the same thing about Tali?  She she has "unfinished business" with Shepard?

I take it two ways.  Same with Miranda.  It has to do with their romance or in Miranda's case something to do with Cerberus and in Tali's case something to do with the quarian/geth conflict.

The devs said Miranda has unfinished buiseness with Shepard, and even more if romanced. So it's about the romance and something else.

http://www.ea.com/ga...-live-broadcast (go to 29:35)

Modifié par Yannkee, 21 septembre 2011 - 07:22 .

[jtav]

I still do think it might be tied to the Reaper tech I think was used for Lazarus. She just won't be necessary for his survival.

[Omega4RelayResident]

Lenimph wrote...

OMG I would love... love love love love love... to see MShep get "saved" ...

Well I think the only time BioWare has ever done something like that was in KotOR with Revan and Bastilla... if you were going dark side that is for the majority of the game. Its harder to convince the player that something he / she is doing is against their character in othergames where you dont have such driving forces as the "force".

In ME once you make a dialogue decision... thats it... youre on that path. It makes you sure your decisions are your own but there is litterally no way to "atone" or "fall" from the path you selected. So seeing Shep get "saved" is going to be hard to beleive in ME3... although a nice change for once.

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

I still do think it might be tied to the Reaper tech I think was used for Lazarus. She just won't be necessary for his survival.

There would have to be another way of dealing with the problem, in all likelihood. But having Miranda around might make it easier. As far as Miranda's presence in the game is concerned, I think heavy involvement in the Cerberus plotline + significant presence on the squad would probably be my minimum participation for averting an intense crisis of fanrage :happy:

Something Lazarus-related I would probably perceive as more of a bonus.

jtav wrote...

What I fear is she'll be Kai Leng chow.

This is somebody from the novels/comics? What, does he hunt Cerberus agents or something along those lines?

Modifié par flemm, 21 septembre 2011 - 07:42 .

[Ieldra]

flemm wrote...

jtav wrote...
I still do think it might be tied to the Reaper tech I think was used for Lazarus. She just won't be necessary for his survival.

There would have to be another way of dealing with the problem, in all likelihood. But having Miranda around might make it easier.

That's what I thought, but it would likely be more complicated than they want to implement. Still, it's a possibility.

As far as Miranda's presence in the game is concerned, I think heavy involvement in the Cerberus plotline + significant presence on the squad would probably be my minimum participation for averting an intense crisis of fanrage

For me, too. Hmph, can't kill Garrus and Tali in my current game, done it too often already. There needs to be some balance...

Kai Leng is a Cerberus agent from ME:Retribution. Totally badass - has killed a krogan with a knife - but also a total racist, one of those Miranda would say joined for the wrong reasons. He's confirmed as an enemy for ME3. Likely a minor boss. Aria would want his head, though so far she's unaware it was him who killed her daughter.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 21 septembre 2011 - 07:46 .

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...
For me, too. Hmph, can't kill Garrus and Tali in my current game, done it too often already. There needs to be some balance...

While I sympathize with your ire, I think it may be misplaced, as I doubt Miranda was ever competing with Garrus and Tali for squad membership. To the extent Miranda is not on the squad, I think it would more likely be that a new female lead + Ashley + Miranda was seen as too many human females to squeeze in.

[Ieldra]

I already resent the new female lead, should there be one.... but I still resent Garrus and Tali for being permanent team members in all three games..... actually, combined with the possibility that Miranda might be a temp that makes me so angry I could explode.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 21 septembre 2011 - 07:53 .

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I already resent the new female lead, should there be one....

Oooooo yeah, I hate her so much already, and I don't even know if she exists yet

That's the scenario, though, where the devs might decide they need to give Miranda something else to do.

Modifié par flemm, 21 septembre 2011 - 07:51 .

[LexieTheT-Rexy]

What new female lead, that might possibly be there?

[flemm]

LexieTheT-Rexy wrote...

What new female lead, that might possibly be there?

Eh, just meta-gaming, really. ME1, you start with Ashley/Kaidan. ME2, Miranda/Jacob. ME3, maybe Vega and a female lead.

Modifié par flemm, 21 septembre 2011 - 07:52 .

[jtav]

No, but Garrus/Tali have had two games and are easier to kill. They are (so far) getting preferential treatment beyond any other ME2 squaddie. I refuse to resent a new squaddie because Miranda was once new. And Ash/Kaidan fans were screwed last time around, so I don't begrudge them either.

But Team Dextro? Grr. Tali mostly gets a pass because I like her. But if they're it for returnees, I'll be very put out.