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[alperez]

Ieldra2 wrote...

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Liara's comment about Miranda in LotSB:
I love it and I hate it. I love "What are you fighting for? The future of humanity, as evidenced by the perfect Ms.Lawson?" and I hate, hate, HATE "You have no idea how much you've changed her" for the same reason as jtav does - it suggests that Miranda has no agency and initiative in ther romance. People may change because of their loved ones, but that doesn't mean the loved one did the changing. Also I'd prefer not to see too much change except in the romance, and I don't think there has been a lot of change except in the romance.

I think i'm in a different time zone to everyone else here or something, everytime i log back on the conversations moved on in huge leaps lol.

Anyway just noticed this and wanted to post something on it so sorry if i'm going back over old ground.

The Liara comment that you say you hate "you have no idea how much you've changed her" i think your taking it differently than i did.

Yes your points after it make sense but the comment itself i don't think is to be taken as literal as you seem to be taking it, its a much more generalised way of saying something to proof a point.

Miranda has changed because of the romance with Shepard not because of anything specific Shepard has done, (well perhaps other than showing her that she isn't as perfect as she thinks). Miranda  in her conversations with Shepard admits as much , she's impressed by what Shepard has acheived and what Shepard may acheive and it puts her own acheivements into perspective.

Look at what Jacob says about not being good enough for her and that being a reason why their (aparent/alledged) romance could never work, part of this to me is that up until Shepard, Miranda had never met someone she considered equal to her or perhaps good enough for her.

Then look at some of the things Miranda says in the romance itself, she worries about Shepard and the fact that he/they may not survive.

Pre Romancing Shepard do you really think Miranda would have been upset if Shepard had died stopping the collector?

To me thats all that line was supposed to represent that like with everyone else Shepard meets/interacts with throughout mass effect, Miranda has grown from the experience being with Shepard, if you then add the romance and the little details we find out about Miranda in the SB dossiers, then from how she was at when Liara met her first to how she is by the end of me2 she's changed considerably.

Could they have expressed this any better in one line than how they did, i'm not sure but i think they did ok with it as long as you yourself put the context and meaning into it and don't take it literally.

Modifié par alperez, 21 juin 2011 - 11:41 .

[Chrislo1990]

S.A.K wrote...

Did any of you ask Casey about Miranda. Just ask him if she is playable to any level. That won't be much of a spoiler and he might answer. I asked him about showing tali's face and got an answer close to a yes

Man it's rally hard to get stuff out of casey. I'll ask him, and you should too , we all should. Hopefully she'll be a permanent squadmember. Lately I've been advocating for her but haven't actually flat out asked if she's going tobe a permamnet squadmember. But yeah guys feel free to ask lol

[Vertigo_1]

Chrislo1990 wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

Did any of you ask Casey about Miranda. Just ask him if she is playable to any level. That won't be much of a spoiler and he might answer. I asked him about showing tali's face and got an answer close to a yes

Man it's rally hard to get stuff out of casey. I'll ask him, and you should too , we all should. Hopefully she'll be a permanent squadmember. Lately I've been advocating for her but haven't actually flat out asked if she's going tobe a permamnet squadmember. But yeah guys feel free to ask lol

No.
Why people don't get it I don't know but I will say this:
No matter how much you spam the guy he won't budge, why? Because they aren't suppose to talk about it yet.
He's responded three times specifically about Miranda and he said "can't say more than that as it's spoilers".

We are still early in the promotion phase for ME3
So far it's been the magazine previews in April/May and E3
We still have Comic Con next month, Gamescon in August and who knows when they will say more...

I'd advise people to wait; we aren't the only character group that wants to know.

[jtav]

Agreed with Verigo. Pestering devs is bad. If she is a squaddie she'll likely be a late reveal. Any footage with her is likely to be spoiler-y.

[Td1984]

So ME3 is going to be featured at Comic Con? Guess who else happens to be attending it? Yvonne herself (with the cast of Chuck, but still).

[Vertigo_1]

Right now it looks like they are going with the demo's they showed off @E3 for the next few months
I'm basing this off of twitter though (They were putting tweets about the E3 demo a month before E3) so I could be wrong and they are working on a new demo as we speak...

There is still that demo of the Reaper being attacked by a Thresher Maw, in Tuchanka I believe, that we have not seen (which was mentioned in magazine articles) so there's a good chance that will be the next new demo we see
Who knows...

Td1984 wrote...

So ME3 is going to be featured at Comic
Con? Guess who else happens to be attending it? Yvonne herself (with the
cast of Chuck, but still).

This is nice, wonder if she will be allowed to answer anything ME3 related.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 22 juin 2011 - 02:39 .

[Td1984]

I'm sure she'll be asked about it.

[jtav]

I doubt she can answer.

You know what I'd do if I were in marketing? Edit the footage of her so that it's ambiguous which side she's on and watch discussion pour in.

In the Garrus vid, they talked about the iconic visual elements that kept Garrus looking like Garrus. What is iconic about Miranda. I'd keep her basic hair style and white as a dominant color.

Modifié par jtav, 22 juin 2011 - 02:51 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

NO doubt about it ^^

[Vertigo_1]

I think most people are going to ask about Season 5, seeing as it's the last season for their show Chuck...

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

I think most people are going to ask about Season 5, seeing as it's the last season for their show Chuck...

That and probably her (Hopefully PLEASE) involvement in ME3.

[hegth]

so anyone in here is going? I live close but far at the same time

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Whoever is going is VERY lucky. They get to see Yvonne, IN PERSON!!!!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 22 juin 2011 - 03:07 .

[Vertigo_1]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Whoever is going is VERY lucky. They get to see Yvonne, IN PERSON!!!!

Well, they also get to play an ME3 demo...

Also:

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/83372438909489153
"When will you speak more about who will be a full S.M. in ME3? How does it spoil the story if we know who is on our team???"

"We'll have more to share soon, but in a story with twists and surprises, how people join or leave you is part of the discovery."

S.M. = Squadmate

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 22 juin 2011 - 03:21 .

[hegth]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Whoever is going is VERY lucky. They get to see Yvonne, IN PERSON!!!!

Well, they also get to play an ME3 demo...

Also:

twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/83372438909489153
"When will you speak more about who will be a full S.M. in ME3? How does it spoil the story if we know who is on our team???"

"We'll have more to share soon, but in a story with twists and surprises, how people join or leave you is part of the discovery."

S.M. = Squadmate

so is safe to assume they will have good plots then.

[MsSihaKatieKrios]

At the end of the day, I'm just plain old disappointed that nobody at Bioware has any idea how to answer press and fan questions. Everytime we ask them something, they inevitably botch the answer. Sigh...

I'm just gonna go back to killing mercs with Miri.

[naledgeborn]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

No.
Why people don't get it I don't know but I will say this:
No matter how much you spam the guy he won't budge, why? Because they aren't suppose to talk about it yet.
He's responded three times specifically about Miranda and he said "can't say more than that as it's spoilers".

We are still early in the promotion phase for ME3
So far it's been the magazine previews in April/May and E3
We still have Comic Con next month, Gamescon in August and who knows when they will say more...

I'd advise people to wait; we aren't the only character group that wants to know.

I hate your reasonable and down to earth attitude. It stops me from running around the forums doomcrying and inciting pro-Miranda anger. That's not fun. 
/sarcasm

Seriously he has a point. I've given up. There will be news when there will be news. No point in getting excited one way or another till we have some type of solid confirmation from Bio Ware. Speculation is a fool's game.... it is fun though.

[Chrislo1990]

yeah I know guys. It's just that well I don't really know how much Bioware listens to their fans during the development process of their games. Usually devs, from what I've observed, just stay on a certain path despite our feedback due to marketing and what not. Hope Bioware is much more flexible and really listen to us as MIranda fans. Also I don't know how much freedom EA allows for devs to implement their ideas. Can anyone shed some light on that?

[t3HPrO]

Just try not to give yourselves aneurysms while BW figures out how to properly respond to fan questions guys.

Just relax and think of something else...

Dammit didn't work.

[Vertigo_1]

Chrislo1990 wrote...

yeah I know guys. It's just that well I don't really know how much Bioware listens to their fans during the development process of their games. Usually devs, from what I've observed, just stay on a certain path despite our feedback due to marketing and what not. Hope Bioware is much more flexible and really listen to us as MIranda fans. Also I don't know how much freedom EA allows for devs to implement their ideas. Can anyone shed some light on that?

If they can put in more customization through weapon mods and more complex skill trees due to fan requests they will likely not disapoint when it comes to Miranda, especially with the fact that Cerberus plays a larger role (more enemies) than we thought.

[Chrislo1990]

t3HPrO wrote...

Just try not to give yourselves aneurysms while BW figures out how to properly respond to fan questions guys.

Just relax and think of something else...

Dammit didn't work.

Hahaha nice!

[Chrislo1990]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Chrislo1990 wrote...

yeah I know guys. It's just that well I don't really know how much Bioware listens to their fans during the development process of their games. Usually devs, from what I've observed, just stay on a certain path despite our feedback due to marketing and what not. Hope Bioware is much more flexible and really listen to us as MIranda fans. Also I don't know how much freedom EA allows for devs to implement their ideas. Can anyone shed some light on that?

If they can put in more customization through weapon mods and more complex skill trees due to fan requests they will likely not disapoint when it comes to Miranda, especially with the fact that Cerberus plays a larger role (more enemies) than we thought.

Thanks vertigo that makes me feel a little better

[Td1984]

hegth wrote...

so anyone in here is going? I live close but far at the same time

I wish I could. I live at the opposite end of California. Plus, I don't  think it's cheap.

[t3HPrO]

I live halfway across the globe.

NO EXCUSES.

[Made Nightwing]

I'm hoping Miranda is wearing the armour of a female Cerberus Elite, the one with swords. Can you imagine her coming in (hopefully early on in the game) decapitating a few husks, then removing her helmet and shaking out her hair?