Td1984 wrote...
hegth wrote...
so anyone in here is going? I live close but far at the same time
I wish I could. I live at the opposite end of California. Plus, I don't think it's cheap.
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Chrislo1990 wrote...
Uhuh oh yeah like Garrus did when he went by the name archangel. In that case there would need to be another reunion thing going on. Hopefully it's be really good if this is the case!!
ParadoxAu wrote...
How would you all feel if there was a Live Action movie starring Yvonne Strahovski as Miranda Lawson before or after the games?
Personally i think it would be incredible if it was well written.
I think you're seeing subtlely where there is none. What Liara is saying comes across as if Miranda had made a Heel Face Turn because Love Redeems, which lessens her because (a) she wasn't a villain to begin with and (alperez wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
Liara's comment about Miranda in LotSB:
I love it and I hate it. I love "What are you fighting for? The future of humanity, as evidenced by the perfect Ms.Lawson?" and I hate, hate, HATE "You have no idea how much you've changed her" for the same reason as jtav does - it suggests that Miranda has no agency and initiative in ther romance. People may change because of their loved ones, but that doesn't mean the loved one did the changing. Also I'd prefer not to see too much change except in the romance, and I don't think there has been a lot of change except in the romance.
The Liara comment that you say you hate "you have no idea how much you've changed her" i think your taking it differently than i did.
Yes your points after it make sense but the comment itself i don't think is to be taken as literal as you seem to be taking it, its a much more generalised way of saying something to proof a point.
it makes her professional side completely subservient to her romantic side. And yet again - as if that was in any way needed - it puts Shepard's ability to reshape people to his liking on a pedestal. it's stroking the player's ego at the expense of Miranda as her own person. I'm still saying there wasn't a lot of change except that she now trusts Shepard. She was never proud of how own achievements because she doesn't believe they're really hers. "The only thing I can take credit for are my mistakes" doesn't appear like an attitude she has newly acquired since Shepard came along. She admits she hasn't Shepard's "fire", but that, too, may be colored by her low self-esteem - the SR2 crew certainly respects her, and between Oriana and that crewman whose family she had relocated there can be no doubt she cares for her own even as she high expectations of everyone around her. I would not be surprised if the crew was prepared to go through hell for her, to her everlasting surprise. All that, everything that she is without Shepard, gets kicked into the dust by Liara's statementMiranda has changed because of the romance with Shepard not because of anything specific Shepard has done, (well perhaps other than showing her that she isn't as perfect as she thinks). Miranda in her conversations with Shepard admits as much , she's impressed by what Shepard has acheived and what Shepard may acheive and it puts her own acheivements into perspective.
Yes, I agree. Which means that she can trust Shepard professionally and - eventually - emotionally. Which is certainly new for her and would make her show him a side of her personality she doesn't show to almost everyone else. But that's not necessarily a personality shift, and even less one in morality. I can't repeat it often enough it seems: being reserved is not a character flaw, and being open and vulnerable is not, in and by itself, a virtue. To imply that opening up to Shepard changes Miranda for the better is wrong and insulting to those with a more reserved personality - which includes MIranda.Look at what Jacob says about not being good enough for her and that being a reason why their (aparent/alledged) romance could never work, part of this to me is that up until Shepard, Miranda had never met someone she considered equal to her or perhaps good enough for her.
No, but then she didn't come to care about Shepard before then. It's not a big surprise, and certainly doesn't indicate that her attitude to anyone but Shepard has shifted. Also she's always cared about one other person more than about herself - Oriana. That certainly hasn't changed.Then look at some of the things Miranda says in the romance itself, she worries about Shepard and the fact that he/they may not survive.
Pre Romancing Shepard do you really think Miranda would have been upset if Shepard had died stopping the collector?
(1) She was always capable of caring about others more than herself (see above)To me thats all that line was supposed to represent that like with everyone else Shepard meets/interacts with throughout mass effect, Miranda has grown from the experience being with Shepard, if you then add the romance and the little details we find out about Miranda in the SB dossiers, then from how she was at when Liara met her first to how she is by the end of me2 she's changed considerably.
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Now that I think of it, the ninja-like fighting style suggested by that outfit would indeed fit Miranda. It is hard to imagine though, since all we have in ME2 is shooting and there are no graceful combat movements at all. Character animations in ME2 are generally limited, I hope things will improve in ME3.Made Nightwing wrote...
I'm hoping Miranda is wearing the armour of a female Cerberus Elite, the one with swords. Can you imagine her coming in (hopefully early on in the game) decapitating a few husks, then removing her helmet and shaking out her hair?
Made Nightwing wrote...
I'm hoping Miranda is wearing the armour of a female Cerberus Elite, the one with swords. Can you imagine her coming in (hopefully early on in the game) decapitating a few husks, then removing her helmet and shaking out her hair?
Errol Dnamyx wrote...
Made Nightwing wrote...
I'm hoping Miranda is wearing the armour of a female Cerberus Elite, the one with swords. Can you imagine her coming in (hopefully early on in the game) decapitating a few husks, then removing her helmet and shaking out her hair?
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Yannkee wrote...
I've uploaded many new screenshots (with JeanLuc Hq textures mods) in this album.
Here some examples :
Ieldra2 wrote...
Hmm, Errol Dnamyx - is that a drool or a puke? I won't take anything for granted here on BSN....
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Ieldra2 wrote...
Why do I suddenly get the premonition that Oriana will die in ME3?
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Ieldra2 wrote...
Why do I suddenly get the premonition that Oriana will die in ME3?
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Modifié par ParadoxAu, 22 juin 2011 - 10:03 .
It's because Mac Walters tweeted he's just reviewing a traglc plotline of ME3. I thought about how that could apply to Miranda and it's obvious. BTW I told him we don't want to see Miranda indoctrinated or reduced to a helpless victim.MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
Why do I suddenly get the premonition that Oriana will die in ME3?
No...just no. We're already worried sick as it is.
SoulfulStarfish wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
Why do I suddenly get the premonition that Oriana will die in ME3?
I dismiss that premonition...
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