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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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EDIT: Whoops, sorry ignore this post.

Modifié par Opedal, 26 septembre 2011 - 11:29 .


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Oh, don't worry Opedal. I'm pretty sure naledgeborn was calling sobe2988 a troll, not you.

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That wasn't directed at you Opedal.

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Yeah I read through the posts again, I apologize for my misunderstanding.

Deleted what I wrote in the above post as well for good measure.

Modifié par Opedal, 26 septembre 2011 - 11:32 .


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yeah it wasn't at you.

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Well, I have this weakness for relationships that turn serious when it's initially supposed to be sex, he's got the whole frustrated idealist thing going, and there was a conversation in the LM that gave me romantic vibes. So, um, *eats words*

I assume Miranda's reaction would be "Don't you dare compromise the mission" for the aliens, some subtle If You Ever Do Anything to Hurt Him speech for Jacob, absolute astonishment with Jack, indifference with the VS, and mild happiness with Liara.

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Can I ask something? I mean I`m not a fan of Miranda but, maybe you guys know better.

Is there any info regarding her "loyalty"?

What I would like to know if she is going to betray Shep... that would be interesting, and I think it would fit her character really well, after all she was "The Loyalist".

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Yeah I always got that distrust vibe from Miranda when it comes to Garrus. It's just residual Human-Turian static leftover from FCW. It wouldn't be personal since Garrus is pretty atypical for a Turian.

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It's possible, but they went out if their way to make sure you knew her loyalties had transferred to you. I expect any betrayals to be made under duress.

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naledgeborn wrote...

Yeah I always got that distrust vibe from Miranda when it comes to Garrus.

I don't remember Miranda ever making any reference to Garrus at all.

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I think it's safe to say they dislike each other. He gets Jack's line about not trusting Miranda in the SM briefing if Jack died.

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MisterJB wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

Yeah I always got that distrust vibe from Miranda when it comes to Garrus.

I don't remember Miranda ever making any reference to Garrus at all.


I thinks it's in the SM if Jack bites it. Garrus strongly disapproves Miranda's mad skills lol and if he's picked (she says same about Zaeed apparently <_<) "Well at least he know's what he's doing." If the line wasn't recycled for Zaeed it could be interpreted that way, but I digress. Other than that there's really nothing solid. 

Edit: :ph34r: 

Modifié par naledgeborn, 26 septembre 2011 - 11:51 .


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Regarding the question of Miranda as a permanent squadmate I am quite sure it wont be happening. And thats not because I wouldnt want her in there, I do (maybe not as a first choice but hey).

The thing is you already have Ashley/Kaidan and James Vega as confirmed permanent squadmates. And 3 humans in what looks to be a 6 persons squad (possibly 8, but I am guessing 6), seems a tad to many, seeing as this is a galactic war. If the squad is going to be 8 strong though, then I think she will be.

In any case, my predictions are that we will have some kind of mission where we seek her out, or try and get her unindoctrinated if she is. And then have her as a squadmember for a later mission, probably beeing one involving fighting in/infiltrating a significant cerberus facility.

Also I wouldnt be surprised if Bioware chose to include all previous squadmembers in some final fight. Highly unlikely not all as squadmates, but that they appear in cinematics of some kind, etc. like in the ME2 suicide mission.

In any event I will be very surprised, if she doesnt get a deal more screentime than a character like Zaeed, Kasumi, Jacob, and even though I hate to say it Samara. She is after all one of the more popular characters.

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One thing to note about that is that there are no permanent squadmates in ME3...just that some will stay longer with you than others...and it seems that VS and Vega are likely it (so far)

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 26 septembre 2011 - 11:59 .


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^ Casey Hudson an co are just trolling us forums goers. They like when we scurry like ants at any hint of good/bad news.

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naledgeborn wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

Yeah I always got that distrust vibe from Miranda when it comes to Garrus.

I don't remember Miranda ever making any reference to Garrus at all.


I thinks it's in the SM if Jack bites it. Garrus strongly disapproves Miranda's mad skills lol and if he's picked (she says same about Zaeed apparently <_<) "Well at least he know's what he's doing." If the line wasn't recycled for Zaeed it could be interpreted that way, but I digress. Other than that there's really nothing solid. 

Edit: :ph34r: 


Zaeed was originally meant to be a viable fireteam leader, damn shame he isn't.

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naledgeborn wrote...

^ Casey Hudson an co are just trolling us forums goers. They like when we scurry like ants at any hint of good/bad news.


He's said it multiple times: @ SDCC, Interviews, and more than once on twitter

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 27 septembre 2011 - 12:04 .


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Well, the "nothing is permanent" thing is partly just a tease, of course. And likely true tbh, depending on how you look at it. But it was true for ME2 as well. Nobody was permanent. Some stayed with you longer than others. Since this is the culmination of the story, it's entirely plausible that everyone can die or otherwise leave the squad at some point, though for certain characters that would only likely occur at the very end.

What interests me more are the comments about the squad working differently. Which I suspect is actually true for a variety of reasons. But we won't really be able to digest this, as fans who are used to a certain type of game, until we see it.

Modifié par flemm, 27 septembre 2011 - 12:07 .


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Thank the gods for this forum! I'm jittering like a school girl reading the possible stories!

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I forgot to also include that Christina Norman said we shouldn't assume that the squadmate system would work the same way it did in ME1 and ME2.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 27 septembre 2011 - 12:08 .


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Seboist wrote...

Zaeed was originally meant to be a viable fireteam leader, damn shame he isn't.


Damn right. I remeber when they were were showing off concept art of Zaeed back in '09. Would it really kill Stahovski to record a couple of extra lines and the coders to make him pass FT and DT leader.

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

I forgot to also include that Christina Norman said we shouldn't assume that the squadmate system would work the same way it did in ME1 and ME2.


That is the type of thing I meant, yeah, and it has been reiterated on many occasions, most recently in some of those tweets from PW that you posted.

Modifié par flemm, 27 septembre 2011 - 12:11 .


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^ Now that I think of it, might be one of the reasons for solo play during Arrival. The other being VA expenses.

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There are also three features we don't know about out there (X, Y and Z)...One of them could be related to how squad mates work in ME3

(This is just pure speculation though)

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

One thing to note about that is that there are no permanent squadmates in ME3...just that some will stay longer with you than others...and it seems that VS and Vega are likely it (so far)


He could mean so much by that. He could mean they die at the end, and that they cant be considered permenant. He could also mean that you can lose squad members in regular missions, not just in the final mission like ME2. Kind of like in ME1 like with Kaidan/Ashley and Wrex.