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[CuseGirl]

Alrite, maybe I had a little Rage quit in me, my bad. Wutever Jtav said, that's wut I meant to say

[flemm]

CuseGirl wrote...

Alrite, maybe I had a little Rage quit in me, my bad. Wutever Jtav said, that's wut I meant to say

I'm not criticizing you, don't get me wrong. The fan Rage is strong within me as well...

For the moment, it is merely restrained

Modifié par flemm, 10 octobre 2011 - 09:25 .

[Eyeshield21]

Ieldra2 wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...
Really this can be said  for every character in some degree one way or another most of they actually do have storylines that eventually tie into major. Another that is Zeead by helping to this man  get his revenge  you  can the Blue Suns mercs and other merc groups on yourside when the **** its the fan.  Its could a simpe a favor for a favor or the enemy of my enemy  either ways.    Samara is  Fliping Justictar for most  Asari seeing her would akin to see, a Supreme court justice, war hero, and matriarch all role into one walk into theroom.

aside from Jacob, wut other ME-3 character has a real direct connection to Cerberus, the secondary enemy in ME-3? It appears as if Cerberus is linked with the Reapers, which happened thru their incompetence. Miranda should be very important.....my one fear is that a bunch of ME-1 guys (who in essence are XBox guys) complained so much that they didn't get enuff Tali and Garrus and Miranda such a ****, so she'll be relegated to wut is now Thane status. Especially since Thane was the other cover character and had a lengthy dialogue with Shep, I feel like that's wut could happen to Miranda......

I don't know about that xbox connection, but yeah, the Garrus and Tali fans tend to be of a certain type. As if two full games hadn't been enough for them, damn it. Can't recall how often that has happened to me - the characters I care for are sidelined in a show or chickified and whatever is the male equivalent beyond recognition, while those that do nothing for me get bigger roles.

It's why I began rooting for the villains in many stories.

OK...we're not quite there yet with Miranda.

then when will it be? this thread has 600+ pages, they need to heed our call for Miri.

[nitefyre410]

Ieldra2 wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...
Really this can be said  for every character in some degree one way or another most of they actually do have storylines that eventually tie into major. Another that is Zeead by helping to this man  get his revenge  you  can the Blue Suns mercs and other merc groups on yourside when the **** its the fan.  Its could a simpe a favor for a favor or the enemy of my enemy  either ways.    Samara is  Fliping Justictar for most  Asari seeing her would akin to see, a Supreme court justice, war hero, and matriarch all role into one walk into theroom.

aside from Jacob, wut other ME-3 character has a real direct connection to Cerberus, the secondary enemy in ME-3? It appears as if Cerberus is linked with the Reapers, which happened thru their incompetence. Miranda should be very important.....my one fear is that a bunch of ME-1 guys (who in essence are XBox guys) complained so much that they didn't get enuff Tali and Garrus and Miranda such a ****, so she'll be relegated to wut is now Thane status. Especially since Thane was the other cover character and had a lengthy dialogue with Shep, I feel like that's wut could happen to Miranda......

I don't know about that xbox connection, but yeah, the Garrus and Tali fans tend to be of a certain type. As if two full games hadn't been enough for them, damn it. Can't recall how often that has happened to me - the characters I care for are sidelined in a show or chickified and whatever is the male equivalent beyond recognition, while those that do nothing for me get bigger roles.

It's why I began rooting for the villains in many stories.

OK...we're not quite there yet with Miranda.

 

Well even as Tali and Garrus fan-  I find that true mark of good series of trilogy when all the major in the play a  role in the story  and by the end everyone gets the time to shine in some way. 

What i would like to see are more Call out moments in 3  like what happened in LOSTB  with Spectre  like or not she called Shepard out  and he needed it.  Even as Tali i can not resist the  tasty Irony of   Legion calling Tali  out or   Garrus trying to call Samara only to have Samara turn the tables and call him out. To have Miranda called on the fact that she is not a 'Natural' human working for a pro human group this pointing the Irony that is missed bu some. Most because its good for characters  get the "Your full of ****" card pull on them and this goes for every because lets be far EVERYONE  character at some point in there existience needs that card pulled on them,  Like or not. 

[jtav]

Page count means exactly nothing. It has never meant anything. What does matter is stats and/or having a cult following. Hardcore fans love Tali and Garrus, even on the BioBoards. They're Artoo and Threepio. Miranda does actually have stats on her side, but page count isn't one of them.

Modifié par jtav, 10 octobre 2011 - 09:33 .

[Eyeshield21]

jtav wrote...

Page count means exactly nothing. It has never meant anything. What does matter is stats and/or having a cult following. Hardcore fans love Tali and Garrus, even on the BioBoards. They're Artoo and Threepio. Miranda dies actually have stats on her side, but page count isn't one of them.

so we need to vote with our wallet? if only BW would listen....oh wait, if we park our cars and stuff out on their driveways with signs saying WE WANT MIRI!! maybe that would work, or we could just show the rage quit video again.....

Modifié par Eyeshield21, 10 octobre 2011 - 09:33 .

[jtav]

As I said, at this point, whether I get CE or regular depends on Miranda's role.

[Eyeshield21]

Ce=Collectots Edition, right? just checking.
and I agree, but you'd think they'd would've looked at the forums and just count the number of groups and people that love their character(I'm sure they do, but thane is the next temp squadmate, so it has me worried)

[jtav]

BSN is a drop in the bucket. Better to pin your hopes on Miranda being most-used (and designed to be such) as well as her very high survival rate.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
As I said, at this point, whether I get CE or regular depends on Miranda's role.

I'll stay with the CE, but Miranda's role will make the difference between playing ME3 two times or ten times, which means that I'll skip all the DLC not included in the CE just as I skipped DA2:Legacy and won't get any future DA2 DLC because I've long moved on from that game.

To get this into perspective: I have all ME2 DLC except for AAP1, which I boycotted because I thought it an insult to expect me to pay to get Garrus' armor repaired, and the Equalizer Pack because I got the only interesting item in it as a pre-order bonus.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 10 octobre 2011 - 09:53 .

[Eyeshield21]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
As I said, at this point, whether I get CE or regular depends on Miranda's role.

I'll stay with the CE, but Miranda's role will make the difference between playing ME3 two times or ten times, which means that I'll skip all the DLC not included in the CE just as I skipped DA2:Legacy and won't get any future DA2 DLC because I've long moved on from that game.

To get this into perspective: I have all ME2 DLC except for AAP1, which I boycotted because I thought it an insult to expect me to pay to get Garrus' armor repaired, and the Equalizer Pack because I got the only interesting item in it as a pre-order bonus.

I have all the DLC except for those you have said(I don't have any for DA2, but I'll get them soon)
Oh and stop with the pessimism already, I'm getting worried, BW is getting the least used characters( at least to us) as Temp squadmates(not sure about Legion, Mordin, Grunt and Wrex, those guys are cool), Samara will probably be on Thessia, Thane on the Hanar homeworld, and the rest I just don't know.

[Ieldra]

Sorry. It's just hard not to worry if all confirmed main characters are ME1 team members or new ones. That makes me really, really angry.

[CuseGirl]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
As I said, at this point, whether I get CE or regular depends on Miranda's role.

I'll stay with the CE, but Miranda's role will make the difference between playing ME3 two times or ten times, which means that I'll skip all the DLC not included in the CE just as I skipped DA2:Legacy and won't get any future DA2 DLC because I've long moved on from that game.

To get this into perspective: I have all ME2 DLC except for AAP1, which I boycotted because I thought it an insult to expect me to pay to get Garrus' armor repaired, and the Equalizer Pack because I got the only interesting item in it as a pre-order bonus.

AAP1? and how do u get Garrus' armor fixed?

[jtav]

Thane is on Invictus. The most used squad members are Miranda and Garrus, in that order.

[Eyeshield21]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Sorry. It's just hard not to worry if all confirmed main characters are ME1 team members or new ones. That makes me really, really angry.

yeah, all of the longtime fans are okay(concerning the original crew from ME1) but those that bought ME2 and romanced one of the new squadmates are pissed(cept for Thane, he has been confirmed as temp squadmate at least),and all of the Talimancers are happy, the ash fans are happy, Liara fans are happy, but where's Miranda?
BW better not **** it up......
YOU READING THIS BIOWARE?!?!

Modifié par Eyeshield21, 10 octobre 2011 - 10:14 .

[CuseGirl]

oh nevermind, the extra costumes.....ur talking about Garrus' silver suit? wuts funny to me is both of his original outfits are damaged

[CuseGirl]

jtav wrote...

Thane is on Invictus. The most used squad members are Miranda and Garrus, in that order.

i have to force myself to use other pairings, having their double overloads is almost unfair against the Geth and Engineer mercs. And then add her Warp? It's a wrap

[jtav]

I'm thinking of writing a story where Shepard dies during Arrival, just so I have an AU to vanish into.

[Eyeshield21]

jtav wrote...

I'm thinking of writing a story where Shepard dies during Arrival, just so I have an AU to vanish into.

make Miranda or an LI in it seeing him die while on the mission to stop the reaper bugs(Icall them that )

[Athayniel]

I've said this elsewhere but Garrus is not my bro. I'm really clueless as to why everyone loves him so much. He's such a reckless hot-head but backs down as soon as Shepard frowns with the merest hint of displeasure. Grunt at least slammed me into a wall before deciding to follow me.

I took Miranda and Samara in most missions, even Jacob saw more missions than Garrus for me.

I don't begrudge folks their love of Garrus... I just don't get it.

[UserForFun]

I like the comradeship between Garrus/Shepard, and the teacher-novice relationship.

I would be amused if Shepard would abruptly tell Garrus '' Don't worry kid, we'll get trough. '' in a deep, old tonality, bearing the lungs of a 80 years old smoker.

As for the Mass Effect Characters, Mordin/Miranda, only ones I am intrigued by, and use as squad.

Modifié par UserForFun, 10 octobre 2011 - 11:20 .

[Sigma2010]

At the risk of sounding sexist. The occassional objectifying rear-end shots of Miranda are alright with me. I disagree with the notion that Ash, even remotely looks like Miranda. I served 6 years in the USMC and to put it simply. "Miranda would standout to any new player like a Tank in a HUMVEE motorpool". Any new or veteran player of ME1, 2, or 3 would not make that connection. As for an evolution of the romance between her and Shepard. I would be very interested to see more of an emotional and some physical interaction (more dialog with each others on board the Normandy).

As far as a squad member, I absolutely would vote for her as a permanent member. Let's not forget that in the final battle in ME2, if you had Miranda as a squad member she sides with Shepard. For me, that shows her loyalty to Shepard and a clear separation between herself, TIM and Cerberus.
I would not want her to see her character fall into the helpless beauty who needs saving in the game. We had that with Liara ala ME1. The thing that prompted me to purse a romance with her character was her character doesn't fall anywhere in that category. OK, except for the beautiful part. Great qualities: she is a little vulnerable, very sexy and very kick ass all at the same time. Also, I wouldn't care for her ending to be the next head of Cerberus, separating her from Shepard. Miranda creating a human version of the SSTG sounds cool. Maybe the group can be an elite force assigned to the Normandy with Miranda heading it up as the Tactical Leader. In a nutshell, increased character development and permanent squad membership of Miranda gets my vote!!!

[Xilizhra]

How many people would be upset if Miranda had lost faith in Cerberus' ideals, or some of them, due to the events of ME3?

[General User]

It would depend on what the events of ME3 actually end up being.

[jtav]

I'd prefer she kept the ideals, if not the methods. And, frankly, there are days I root for her to kick the proverbial puppy.