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[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Oh, there's a reason. You need a biotic for the long walk. The question is whether they'll use her high survival rate to justify a larger role.

In that case, she would not be protected by plot armor during the Long Walk. I say it was that she has lines at the briefing for the final boss battle and they didn't want to record those lines for several characters.

Eh...it's so useless trying to second-guess the developers. Why don't they say anything, damn it? I want to know if I'm being set up for a disappointment or for a nice surprise.

[jtav]

At least we could get over the disappointment by March.

[Athayniel]

I think enough people die by that point where you have to take one of the heavies with you in the final mission

[Athayniel]

Ieldra2 wrote...

In that case, she would not be protected by plot armor during the Long Walk. I say it was that she has lines at the briefing for the final boss battle and they didn't want to record those lines for several characters.

The biotic specialist doesn't die. Someone else on the squad does whether they're loyal or not

[jtav]

No, but she'll never get taken by the swarms or die leading the fireteam. She can die at the final boss or HtL only. She's immortal if loyal.

[raziel1980]

Athayniel wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

In that case, she would not be protected by plot armor during the Long Walk. I say it was that she has lines at the briefing for the final boss battle and they didn't want to record those lines for several characters.

The biotic specialist doesn't die. Someone else on the squad does whether they're loyal or not

I always wound up using Samara for that part of thew SM...because I like to take Mir( and Garrus usually)i with me during the last part...I make sure every teammate gets some play time in during that mission.

[Ieldra]

New (!) screenshot!

[jtav]

Wow. You're better at this than me Ieldra.

[raziel1980]

My own Miri acreenie...during the after loyality mission conversation...

[Athayniel]

raziel1980 wrote...

I always wound up using Samara for that part of thew SM...because I like to take Mir( and Garrus usually)i with me during the last part...I make sure every teammate gets some play time in during that mission.

Last time I went through with Samara and Miranda on my squad so Jack was my bubble b*tch, to use a term from Dark Age of Camelot. If my character hadn't been an infiltrator it would have been a biotic fest. I'd like it if Jacob was considered one of the ideal choices for the job, especially since he gets Barrier as a skill.

[Ieldra]

Regarding the loyalty missions and the SM, it's not so hard to survive even without Zaeed and Kasumi, but without Zaeed and Kasumi AND no ship upgrades AND no loyalty missions done, you can only survive if Garrus or Grunt is in the hold-the-line group and Tali, Jack or Mordin are not, and Miranda was selected as second fire team leader. A very specific set of conditions.

[Ieldra]

The shot is from the scene with Veetor. Might just become my favorite portrait shot of Miranda. There are some places with really good lighting and many with too harsh lighting in the game. And jtav, it's just that I make 50 screenshots I throw away for every one I put here. Getting the right moment is finicky.

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

If I were a writer, I'd use her in one of two ways: as central as possible without being mandatory or to rip your heart out. They said they'd be using the stats gathered in ME2. Now, the only way the game has to measure popularity is who's in the squad most often. That's Miranda. But that's most;y because she's OP. So they rigged the stats. Why did they rig the stats? And her LM is the only one you don't have to go out of your way for. Nudging you to do it without forcing. Again, why?

It strikes me that you may be over-thinking this a bit. Everybody's powers are good in normal, so I expect that most players just choose whoever they like having around most of the time. What percentage of players even turn off automatic squad power usage?

Also, remember, Miranda was representing an organisation that returning players had been taught to perceive as basically brutal and evil. Unlike TIM, players were going to have the choice to ignore her. So, like her much-discussed plot armor later in the game, all of the design elements you mention probably have more to do with ME2 than ME3. Basically, Miranda worked: now they have a popular character to continue the Cerberus arc in ME3. I don't think it's any more complicated than that, really.

Ieldra2 wrote...
Why don't they say anything, damn it?

It just feels like the devs decided Miranda's role was one of those things that they wanted to be a surprise in the game. I know it's frustrating, but it's probably a good sign as far as the scale of her role is concerned. Especially when you consider that a "surprise" returning squad member is pretty likely. Miranda is by far the best candidate for that. I don't think it's even close.

Sweet screenshot, by the way.

Modifié par flemm, 14 octobre 2011 - 08:28 .

[UserForFun]

Only two possible reasons, one pleasant, one repulsive.

Her role within Mass Effect 3 will be of substantial importance, and her character will dye the development of the plot in a certain manner thus they'll be compelled to take the necessarily precautions to prevent spoilers. Logical, why would you purchase a book with it's cover summarizing the story? ( That's obviously the pleasant/appealing reason behind it. ) Or..

They're keeping her relevance to the game concealed, because she'll be turned into a cameo ( Like Mass Effect 2; Wrex/Liara and Virmire Survivor ) and hope to feed the fans with enough content - And once the lust is sated, the BOMB is delivered, and they'll assume that due to amount of content unraveled, the fans will overlook/ignore or simple shrug her cameo, due to '' AWESOMENESS '' of the already presented game. Aka, a strategic marketing move.

Modifié par UserForFun, 14 octobre 2011 - 08:28 .

[jtav]

It makes logical sense to hold one returnee back like Garrus, but I'd think the on;y characters popular enough to pull that off are Wrex, Garrus, Tali, Mordin, and Legion. Or am I underestimating my own fanbase?

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

It makes logical sense to hold one returnee back like Garrus, but I'd think the on;y characters popular enough to pull that off are Wrex, Garrus, Tali, Mordin, and Legion. Or am I underestimating my own fanbase?

Err, yeah, probably by a lot. Not sure if it's enough to get you on the squad, though 

Modifié par flemm, 14 octobre 2011 - 09:05 .

[jtav]

Heh, just realized how that sounded considering my avatar. But it's only recently that this became the most active thread. Miranda has always been middle of the pack in BSN polls.

[jtav]

Anyway, I've updated the OP with instructions on how to replace Miranda's white outfit with the black from Freedom's Progress on.

[jtav]

Apparently dead squad members will be acknowledged the same way Ash/Kaidan were in ME2. So, what would Miranda's be?

[The Uncanny]

jtav wrote...

Anyway, I've updated the OP with instructions on how to replace Miranda's white outfit with the black from Freedom's Progress on.

Sometimes I think I'm the only person who likes the white catsuit. 

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

Apparently dead squad members will be acknowledged the same way Ash/Kaidan were in ME2. So, what would Miranda's be?

Well, given the amount of returning squad members who might be dead, and that apparently all of them will have at least a single mission devoted to them, I guess that at least some of those missions can still be completed if the character is dead. Otherwise, too much content would be lost.

They would just be completed in a different form. So, it seems like that woud be the moment to make some sort of acknowledgement. So, for example, "If only Mordin had survived..." when trying to deal with the genophage. Something like that.

With Miranda, either somewhere in the Cerberus storyline or possibly something Lazarus related. I rather like the Lazarus project video log idea that we've discussed a time or two.

The Uncanny wrote...
Sometimes I think I'm the only person who likes the white catsuit.

There's at least two of us

Modifié par flemm, 14 octobre 2011 - 10:15 .

[Lenimph]

The Uncanny wrote...

jtav wrote...

Anyway, I've updated the OP with instructions on how to replace Miranda's white outfit with the black from Freedom's Progress on.

Sometimes I think I'm the only person who likes the white catsuit. 

But of course obviously your not 

[Athayniel]

The Uncanny wrote...

jtav wrote...

Anyway, I've updated the OP with instructions on how to replace Miranda's white outfit with the black from Freedom's Progress on.

Sometimes I think I'm the only person who likes the white catsuit. 

I prefer the black catsuit. =P But I like the catsuits in general because I'm not that big on the whole heavily armoured spacemarine motif. I like watching people being bad-asses in relatively casual clothes. Which is one reason I love shows like Firefly and Farscape.

[Vertigo_1]

Lenimph wrote...

The Uncanny wrote...

jtav wrote...

Anyway, I've updated the OP with instructions on how to replace Miranda's white outfit with the black from Freedom's Progress on.

Sometimes I think I'm the only person who likes the white catsuit. 

But of course obviously your not 

I like the white catsuit too, but I kinda prefer the black one