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[cbutz]

Does someone need someone bring out the quotes saying that she will have a big role, that she has unfinished business with shepard, that she has more unfinished business if she was his LI? You all have gone over plenty of hooks tha Biowaret can feature her in. For all we know they could have prettied up Ash so that fans can see the two versions of Ash ( combat ash and civilian Ash). Perhaps the same will be done to Miranda.
     For example, the scenario many of you brought up about her leading a "rogue cell" against Cerberus can give Bioware the chance of showing off "combat field" Miranda. the image that comes to mind for myself is that Miranda is dressed more like Solid Snake in MetalGear Solid 3. She would be leading hit and run attacks, or whatever suited her character best. her look would have her hair up as her looks would have no advantage then, her armor would not be as polished, hell she could even have an eye patch...although i think if she lost an eye she could replace it with a cybernetic implant, but I digress. I'd  refrain from any highs or any lows in regard to information until a
reveal is shown. Perhaps "caustiously optimistic" is the right
approach.

Modifié par cbutz, 17 octobre 2011 - 02:28 .

[jtav]

Not worst-case, no. But I don't really think we'll get best-case. And it's hitting me hard because I just came off optimism.

[flemm]

Well, for me, I think it's partly that I'm cool with Miranda not having to be the "hot chick," so to speak. Not that she still wouldn't be gorgeous, but I'm alright with it not being as much the focus, where Miranda is concerned, especially of her appearance. So, if the devs want to pass the "babe" baton to Ashley, I'm ok with it. Not that Ashley would be limited to that, just as of course Miranda wasn't.

But, I think if I were writing the story, I would want to put Miranda through some hard times. Muss her up a bit. Put the focus a bit more on the tougher, grittier aspect of her personality. So, really, nothing about Ashley's redesign should limit Miranda's role in the story. Other factors may have, I don't know.

Modifié par flemm, 17 octobre 2011 - 03:11 .

[shepskisaac]

Question. What happens if you decide to destroy the Collector's Base but Mir's not with you during convo with TIM?

[MisterJB]

IS: Nothing changes.

[shepskisaac]

MisterJB wrote...

IS: Nothing changes.

She's still with Cerberus right? There's no extra scene in which she resigns a bit later?

[MisterJB]

Thecnically, she didn't resign. But I doubt bringing Miranda to the final boss raises a flag.

[Dr. Doctor]

 I sort of get the feeling that the prevailing trope in ME3 is going to be Took A Level In Badass. Wrex is now leader of the Krogan, Liara is the Shadow Broker, and the VS is a Spectre. So the question is what direction will we see Mirada go in?

It would be interesting to see a gritter take on Miranda's character, although this only makes me think of the show Dark Angel.

[flemm]

Dr. Doctor wrote...
It would be interesting to see a gritter take on Miranda's character, although this only makes me think of the show Dark Angel.

It would. And if Miranda takes a level in badass, I guess it would be during the game. At least ideally it would. Though the Cerberus Renegade idea is already pretty damn cool as a starting point. For example.

[MisterJB]

Reencounter with Miranda in ME3, she is an Alliance Admiral.
Bet you didn't see that coming.

[flemm]

MisterJB wrote...

Reencounter with Miranda in ME3, she is an Alliance Admiral.
Bet you didn't see that coming.

LoL. Seriously, though, this is probably what Mac Walters was referring to when he said returning characters would be at least as important as they were previously, i.e. a lot people get a promotion in some form or another. Doesn't mean much with regard to screen time, of course.

Modifié par flemm, 17 octobre 2011 - 03:34 .

[Dr. Doctor]

You know it would be interesting to have Miranda become more of a field agent/commando in ME3, if only to see her in complete Black Widow mode. 

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Yes, we've known, but this is the first time we've seen a full-body sletch. And it's gone from similar to more than one person remarking on how much she looks like Miranda and in my case, mixing them up. What chance would a casual have?

That shot is old. I knew it already. Nothing has changed as far as I'm concerned. Admittedly, things are still worrying. I wonder if we'll get a Miranda vs. Ashley choice.

Edit:
Oops. I gather you mean that Dark Horse scan. OK, that's new, but it doesn't show much more than the other shot of Ashley in action I've been referring to, and the AAP Ashley that was posted some time ago.

Edit2:
And I don't find her similar to Miranda at all. Even in that low-detail shot. Both have long dark hair, that's it.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 17 octobre 2011 - 05:52 .

[Ieldra]

flemm wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Reencounter with Miranda in ME3, she is an Alliance Admiral.
Bet you didn't see that coming.

LoL. Seriously, though, this is probably what Mac Walters was referring to when he said returning characters would be at least as important as they were previously, i.e. a lot people get a promotion in some form or another. Doesn't mean much with regard to screen time, of course.

I can't see any meaningful "promotion" of Miranda at the start of ME3. From the Illusive Man's most trusted operative all plausible ways go down. Even if she's with another faction, she'd need to earn their trust first.

Near the end of ME3, though, I can see her becoming one of the most important humans in the galaxy.

[UserForFun]

I don't see the fuss about Yvonne, I mean she's done a good job, but not exceptional. It could had been a lot better, and there are plenty of voice-actors out there more qualified than her. She's not irreplaceable.

It will be different for the first five minutes, but you'll adjust, especially if the next voice-actor is proven more adequate to fill Miranda's role.

[Ieldra]

Shotokanguy wrote...

jtav wrote...
And Strahovski is not necessary for Miranda. Other people voice the role now, for heaven's sake.

What are you talking about? Miranda is in some other voiced Mass Effect work?

The foreign language versions. I can tell you the German version of Miranda is absolutely awful in comparison, at least the few lines I've heard of it.

As for the question of Strahovski, yes, it would likely be very jarring to hear another VA voicing Miranda, but I'd rather have that than Miranda in a small role. It's the character I care about, not the actor. I don't think she'll be replaced though. From what I hear, VA work takes a lot less time than filming for TV or a movie. Unless Strahovksi's schedule is seriously packed, she'll be back and ME3 won't suffer from it.

If Miranda is sidelined, other factors will be responsible. Someone's preference for other characters, for instance (grrr......Liara, Garrus, Tali.....grrrr).

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I can't see any meaningful "promotion" of Miranda at the start of ME3.

Me neither, which is basically what I meant when I said any change of that nature for Miranda would likely happen over the course of the game. Initial shift for Miranda is more likely toward hardship/struggle. Which is actually good, I think, as far as her importance to the story is concerned. Though we're only talking possibilities here.

As a general rule, though, "promotions" of some sort will likely be fairly common. It's just easier to give characters an important role in a big war story like this if they are closer to generals than to foot soldiers in the scheme of things. It's also one the best/easiest ways to make a relatively brief appearance at least somewhat satisfying for fans.

Modifié par flemm, 17 octobre 2011 - 10:52 .

[Errol Dnamyx]

UserForFun wrote...

I don't see the fuss about Yvonne, I mean she's done a good job, but not exceptional. It could had been a lot better, and there are plenty of voice-actors out there more qualified than her.
 

Like Jennifer Hale? lulz.
Her VA is great for Miranda and I don't think it needs improvement.

[Athayniel]

I could see Miranda rocking an action ponytail of badassness. I would like it. Very much.

My issue with any kind of major reworking of the character would be there hasn't been that much time between the end of ME2 and the start of ME3. Two months since Arrival is what I've seen quoted and since it is perfectly possible to play Arrival before the SM it can't be that long since baby!Reaper has been destroyed. If it was more along the lines of six months, like I prefer to think about in my head-canon, it would allow more scope for a Miranda, who's been given amnesty by the Alliance after Shepard's surrender of the Normandy and his/her self, to have been out and about gathering together disaffected Cerberus scientists and soldiers in a secret location to conduct unspecified research and plan for the re-taking of other major Cerberus assets. Especially if Cerberus has somehow gone reaper. Then it would become an action ponytail of justice!

[flemm]

Athayniel wrote...
My issue with any kind of major reworking of the character would be there hasn't been that much time between the end of ME2 and the start of ME3. Two months since Arrival is what I've seen quoted and since it is perfectly possible to play Arrival before the SM it can't be that long since baby!Reaper has been destroyed. If it was more along the lines of six months, like I prefer to think about in my head-canon, it would allow more scope for a Miranda, who's been given amnesty by the Alliance after Shepard's surrender of the Normandy and his/her self, to have been out and about gathering together disaffected Cerberus scientists and soldiers in a secret location to conduct unspecified research and plan for the re-taking of other major Cerberus assets. Especially if Cerberus has somehow gone reaper.

 
I think it's as plausible as any idea that's been tossed about, and the time issue doesn't strike me as a real problem. Whether or not she received amnesty is a different question. Maybe. Though I could also see her being the exception to the rule where amnesty is concerned.

Athayniel wrote...
Then it would become an action ponytail of justice!

The ponytail will be feared throughout the galaxy and might even be the key to defeating the Reapers

Modifié par flemm, 17 octobre 2011 - 11:04 .

[Ieldra]

Miranda leading a Cerberus renegade faction is quite plausible IMO. With her long service history and her status as one of TIM's most trusted operatives she'd have quite a bit of knowledge and internal contacts. Six months? No problem at all.

A changed hairstyle though? Do Not Want.

[FeralEwok]

Ieldra2 wrote...

A changed hairstyle though? Do Not Want.

I wouldn't mind if the change was something subtle or very miniscule.

I wouldn't want her hair to have never moved position for over two years...That's some tough hairspray.

[Ieldra]

LOL. The ME2 team is so proud of their new hair tech, I very much doubt they'll leave Miranda alone. I'm fine with that, actually I'm looking forward to the result. But Miranda should have long dark hair worn openly, no pony tail, bun, shortened hair etc...

Modifié par Ieldra2, 17 octobre 2011 - 12:02 .