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[flemm]

CrutchCricket wrote...
Anyway despite the rant, I can't dismiss a possibility that she's still loyal to Cerberus or that Bioware would have to take that into account. But I maintain that's not the case for a loyal Miranda and certainly not a romanced one. Either way I won't be seeing that (I hope:?)

I don't think you will. But I think it's the kind of thing we might not find out prior to release.

It's possible that there will be a different scenario for an unloyal Miranda who survives the suicide mission. It would make a certain amount of sense. It would surprise me a bit if they implemented that, but you never know. Might depend partly on how often that happens, statistically.

Modifié par flemm, 17 octobre 2011 - 04:13 .

[CrutchCricket]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

You're all kinda slacking off in the pics department....


:wub::wub:

This rules so hard! Permission to make motivational poster? (I'd say demotivational to reference parodies of such but this certainly motivates me!)

[flemm]

Go for it. I'm pretty sure MEfan won't mind. Quite the contrary.

[CrutchCricket]

Admittedly not the height of cleverness. But I think it gets our point across.

[Skullheart]

Well, if Miranda's role in ME3is reduced to cameo or temp with no relevance in the story I'll be like this my whole life...

[jtav]

Oh, it could be worse and I just got some Wheel of Time spoilers reminding me what that is.

[Athayniel]

Skullheart wrote...

Well, if Miranda's role in ME3is reduced to cameo or temp with no relevance in the story I'll be like this my whole life...
*snip*

In this comic the robot king is told that Miranda's role and plot points in ME3 would be given to a blonde sword-wielding vigilante.

PS I'm posting a link instead of the image because it's fairly large and the link will take you to a really good webcomic.

Modifié par Athayniel, 17 octobre 2011 - 07:02 .

[typoo855]

i heard that there will be same sex relations for M&F does that mean everyone in mass effect is bisexual

[CrutchCricket]

Athayniel wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

Well, if Miranda's role in ME3is reduced to cameo or temp with no relevance in the story I'll be like this my whole life...
*snip*

In this comic the robot king is told that Miranda's role and plot points in ME3 would be given to a blonde sword-wielding vigilante.

PS I'm posting a link instead of the image because it's fairly large and the link will take you to a really good webcomic.

lol nice. The king's headshape also reminded me of another robot who might take such news rather badly:

[Athayniel]

typoo855 wrote...

i heard that there will be same sex relations for M&F does that mean everyone in mass effect is bisexual

There hasn't yet been any news released about which LIs will be made available for romancing by a same sex Shepard. As of right now you know as much as any of us.

[Athayniel]

CrutchCricket wrote...

lol nice. The king's headshape also reminded me of another robot who might take such news rather badly:
*snip*

The best part about the robot king is that he draws his face to reflect the emotion he wants to convey. It's much like the way the elcor speak but in a visual form.

[flemm]

CrutchCricket wrote...

*snip*

Admittedly not the height of cleverness. 

Believe me when I say that attaining the height of cleverness in each individual post is not a requirement for posting around here.

For example, statistics show that I attain the height of cleverness in a mere 0.03% of my posts, and that a whopping 74.2% of my posts fall somewhere between "superfluous" and "inane."

And I post here all the time

Nice motivational

Modifié par flemm, 17 octobre 2011 - 07:39 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

CrutchCricket wrote...



Admittedly not the height of cleverness. But I think it gets our point across.

That's perfect! A perfect way to show to those foolish enough to object!

[Athayniel]

flemm wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

*snip*

Admittedly not the height of cleverness. 

Believe me when I say that attaining the height of cleverness in each individual post is not a requirement for posting around here.

For example, statistics show that I attain the height of cleverness in a mere 0.03% of my posts, and that a whopping 74.2% of my posts fall somewhere between "superfluous" and "inane."

And I post here all the time

Nice motivational

There is a 98.68% chance all the statistics flemm used in the above post are infact completely made up, with a margin of error of ± 0.01%

[Ieldra]

CrutchCricket wrote...
Hey, new to the boards here but I feel compelled to show my support for Miranda. Only character in the series I knew beyond a doubt I needed to romance. Full squadmember and LI for ME3- anything else is unacceptable. Note: I don't consider "full squadmember" to be 'at Shepard's beck and call all the time". You could expand the fire team concept introduced in the suicide mission and actually show how she effectively leads a second team. Or go the ME2 Tali route and have Miranda busy for a part of the game but able to join later.

My answer is a little late but I wanted to say that I fully agree with what you said is desirable for Miranda and her presence in ME3. She should have the opportunity to actually lead an important operation on her own, and if that means she's absent for a while that's totally OK.

On the topic of Miranda's Cerberus loyalty, it would be plausible if there was a path where she remains loyal to Cerberus, especially if you keep the base - which should, btw, mean that Shepard is also with Cerberus at the start of ME3. But I rather doubt we'll see it happen since that would mean she has two very different story arcs depending on how ME2 ends. Some people have speculated about a blackmail scenario with Oriana as the "security" to keep Miranda with Cerberus, but that shouldn't work as you say. You cannot instill the dedication and loyalty you need for a job like Miranda's with blackmail.

So I think the most likely scenario is that she won't be with Cerberus any more. Only the backstory might change. In one version, she's left them at the end of ME2, in the other, she left them after she noticed they were after Shepard in ME3. In both cases, when we meet her again, she'll not be with Cerberus.

My opinion about Miranda's resignation is well known, I think its out of character for Miranda to be so dead-set against keeping the Collector base. *fumes*. I'll give you my reasoning in a PM if you want, since I don't want to rehash this in the thread for the hundredth time.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 17 octobre 2011 - 08:49 .

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...
So I think the most likely scenario is that she won't be with Cerberus any more. Only the backstory might change. In one version, she's left them at the end of ME2, in the other, she left them after she noticed they were after Shepard in ME3. In both cases, when we meet her again, she'll not be with Cerberus.

Or sometime in between, since she seems to be having her doubts even when you keep the base. I think I'd rather Miranda just decide to leave Cerberus because of her evolving views of what the organisation is and should be about, rather than as a response to Cerberus going after Shepard.

Anyway, on the whole I agree. She just needs to explain her thinking when we meet her, including information that details her reasoning at the CB, or allows us to easily infer what that reasoning was.

I admire your restraint by the way

Athayniel wrote...
There is a 98.68% chance all the statistics flemm used in the above post are infact completely made up, with a margin of error of ± 0.01%

What tipped you off? Did I give myself too much credit with that 0.03%?

Modifié par flemm, 17 octobre 2011 - 09:06 .

[Ieldra]

flemm wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
So I think the most likely scenario is that she won't be with Cerberus any more. Only the backstory might change. In one version, she's left them at the end of ME2, in the other, she left them after she noticed they were after Shepard in ME3. In both cases, when we meet her again, she'll not be with Cerberus.

Or sometime in between, since she seems to be having her doubts even when you keep the base. I think I'd rather Miranda just decide to leave Cerberus because of her evolving views of what the organisation is and should be about, rather than as a response to Cerberus going after Shepard.

I agree with you and retract my earlier statement.

Anyway, on the whole I agree. She just needs to explain her thinking when we meet her, including information that details her reasoning at the CB, or allows us to easily infer what that reasoning was.

As long it's a pragmatic reasoning, I'm all for it. But given how Bioware's Paragon decisions are designed, I'm not sure if I should hope for an explanation. If I get ONE other instance of "this feels wrong" from Miranda in ME3, I'll post a rant the size of the Citadel.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 17 octobre 2011 - 09:06 .

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...
If I get ONE other instance of "this feels wrong" from Miranda in ME3, I'll post a rant the size of the Citadel.

Already looking forward to it!

Should such measures be necessary, I mean

Modifié par flemm, 17 octobre 2011 - 09:09 .

[Athayniel]

Ieldra2 wrote...

If I get ONE other instance of "this feels wrong" from Miranda in ME3, I'll post a rant the size of the Citadel.

I suppose a ponytail would fall under that category?

[jtav]

And I'll be ranting alongside. Miranda will either be my favorite character or I'll end up wanting to nuke her from orbit.

Anyway, I'm a either a sap or insane. For my "canon" game, I'm having only survivors I passionately want in ME3. But I'm thinking of sparing Jacob and having Garrus die in his place because Jacob and Miranda are close.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Anyway, I'm a either a sap or insane. For my "canon" game, I'm having only survivors I passionately want in ME3. But I'm thinking of sparing Jacob and having Garrus die in his place because Jacob and Miranda are close.

Being a sap and being insane are not mutually exclusive

Besides, prefering Jacob to Garrus is perfectly sane.

May I ask who your survivors are? Let me guess: Miranda, Mordin, Legion, Thane, definite survivors. If you're generous, Jacob and Tali. Garrus, Samara, Kasumi and Jack, dead because while appreciated, definitely not "passionately wanted". Zaeed and Grunt, definitely dead. 

Modifié par Ieldra2, 17 octobre 2011 - 09:37 .

[flemm]

Well, personally, if I could only save two, it would be Miranda and Mordin. No hesitation there. Then I'd add Legion, Jacob and Jack. Thane would be next, if I had room.

The others I can more easily live without, though I do derive enjoyment from all the characters. Right now my playthroughs only have a death or two at most, but I might try a game with more limited survivors prior to ME3's release.

Modifié par flemm, 17 octobre 2011 - 09:44 .

[jtav]

It could be as few as Miranda, Mordin, and Legion, possibly plus Jacob and Kasumi. This is my "I don't care what BW says, I'm doing what I want" game, which means Jack and Tali are disloyal. I'd rather they survive, but losing Garrus mean Jack dies and Tali's a goner in any case because she's so squishy. I've become disenchanted with Thane after my last go at romancing him. Kasumi may survive by being recruited post-SM or be unrecruited depending on my mood. I'm going for those characters that will make me cheer to see them again. And that would be Mordin, Legion, and Miranda. If any of those three were full squad, I wouldn't be that upset about the other two.

Modifié par jtav, 17 octobre 2011 - 09:49 .