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[ThePwener]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Instead of arguing about Cerberus. Why can't we just tell each other what we want with Miri for ME3?

ONE AT A TIME. 

Me: Real armor and a decent cameo (odds are she isn't a squadmate, but if Jacob is, I'll be mildly pissed off).

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

@ Mel

But the arguments are going to end up getting out of hand.

We can review what we want. I like getting points across, so that everyone can acknowledge.... hint hint. 

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 23 juin 2011 - 10:45 .

[alperez]

ThePwener wrote...

You have to be joking.....

Oh no! [name of worshiped character here] isn't a squadmate! I am not buying a game I have waited 6 years to play because of that.

Yes but if the characters i put time and effort into aren't treated in a way i consider appropriate then mass effect isn't the game i originally thought it was going to be.

I started out playing a trilogy where my choices had serious consequences and what i did affect the experience i have, if bioware cameo out characters in the final act of that trilogy, characters i put time and effort into to get to know and who i deliberately ensured survived a SM, then shouldn't i have the option to say no thanks this isn't for me.

Bioware got around not using me1 crew as squadmates in me2 because they said they held them back for me3, which it looks like they did, with the me2 crew that option won't be open so a large part of my experience could be denied to me. If that is indeed the case then as a customer i'm perfectly entitled to say screw you i'm keeping my money even though i originally intended to purchase,play and enjoy all 3 games.

My cash, my choice, what i do with it or whether i follow through in something i say i may do is nothing to do with anyone else, its an opinion freely expressed and its up to me whether i choose to stick to that opinion or not.

I've said countless times if they screw over certain characters in me3 i for one won't buy it, whether i'm telling the truth or trying to make a point is no concern of anyones and in the end i'll pretty much be the only one who'll know if i was being a hypocrite or if i was entirely honest.

[jtav]

Miranda is an apologist for an organization that has committed medical and regular torture, including children and nearly killed a Sole Survivor. Better?

[alperez]

jtav wrote...

Miranda is an apologist for an organization that has committed medical and regular torture, including children and nearly killed a Sole Survivor. Better?

Yes indeed Miranda is in fact Comical Ali, we're winning, we're winning there are no tanks.

[jtav]

I trust Bioware. And, frankly, I have reasons to play these games beyond Miranda. I want to see how the story ends.

[Melra]

jtav wrote...

I trust Bioware. And, frankly, I have reasons to play these games beyond Miranda. I want to see how the story ends.

Good for you. I am not saying, that I am not enjoying many of the aspects in this game, but the story for me won't be complete without Miranda getting appropriate treatment. I won't consider LOTSB treatment, appropriate.

Rather have show end how it ''deserves'' and the way it still feels like -my- Shepard's story or just remember as it was and ignore the third part altogether. That's how I'll go about it.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

OMG!!! It sounds like EVERYTHING went from Caring for Miri.....to despising her!!!!

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 23 juin 2011 - 11:02 .

[jtav]

thought better of it

Modifié par jtav, 23 juin 2011 - 11:04 .

[MisterJB]

jtav wrote...

Miranda is an apologist for an organization that has committed medical and regular torture, including children and nearly killed a Sole Survivor. Better?

Much better
Effectively creating an autistic's worst nightmare is one thing but terrorism?http://tvtropes.org/...vilHasStandards

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

What the hell! This is supposed to be a SUPPORT thread. NOT a hate thread.

How can I say my support with everyone being SO negative?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 23 juin 2011 - 11:07 .

[Melra]

Whata heck is wrong with you? There's no.. hating on this thread? Stop being so over-sensitive.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Everybody saying that she was part of Cerberus and that Cerberus was the enemy. Over and over.

Let's start saying more things in the supportive route and what we want with Miri for ME3 (in a GOOD WAY), shall we?

That is more important.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 23 juin 2011 - 11:13 .

[Melra]

Eh... How's that negative or hating, it's a fact and great part of her character. You need to get a hold of yourself. Stop freaking out and going ballistic all the time. Calm down and take a deep breath, then come back.

[jtav]

This is first and foremost a discussion thread. That means there's going to be discussion, including discussion about Miranda's negative aspects. Things like whether she's a terrorist and how culpable she is are valid topics.

Modifié par jtav, 23 juin 2011 - 11:15 .

[alperez]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

What the hell! This is supposed to be a SUPPORT thread. NOT a hate thread.

How can I say my support with everyone being SO negative?

Chill Winston, Just relax you can still support a character while not agreeing or just blindly accepting everything the do is right and correct, if that was the case then you wouldn't be able to get characters to change and evolve at all. How a character might seem or what a character might think at first glance might not be the same as what you as the protagonist think or believe, its up to you how you perceive the character in the end.

Most of us are on here because of how we feel about Miranda as a character but a lot of us have different opinions about what kind of a character she really is.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Sorry Everyone........

I was beginning to think that some were starting to think of her as some....monster.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 23 juin 2011 - 11:19 .

[alperez]

Or to quote a friend of mine, the world is not always a happy place full of shiny happy people, bunnies have been experimented on so you can enjoy that perfume and look good in that eye shadow.

He's a strange dude lol.

[Melra]

alperez wrote...

Or to quote a friend of mine, the world is not always a happy place full of shiny happy people, bunnies have been experimented on so you can enjoy that perfume and look good in that eye shadow.

He's a strange dude lol.

Sounds like one of my brief relationships with either rat or giraffe resulted in a baby boy. 

Modifié par Melrache, 23 juin 2011 - 11:21 .

[naledgeborn]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Sorry Everyone........

I was beginning to think that some were starting to think of her as some....monster.

And what if some people do (not me). That's a perfectly valid opinion. It's an argument I hate hearing sometimes but some of the points people come up with are sensible. You take things to heart way too easily man.

[enayasoul]

so how do you think Oriana will feel about Miranda working for those "terrorists"?

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Again sorry.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 23 juin 2011 - 11:23 .

[alperez]

Melrache wrote...

Sounds like one of my brief relationships with either rat or giraffe resulted in a baby boy. 

Well you'll be pleased to know that your baby boy is doing fine and has found work as a drag artist then (and no not kidding about that last part).

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

enayasoul wrote...

so how do you think Oriana will feel about Miranda working for those "terrorists"?

Well for me, Miri is not anymore.

[alperez]

enayasoul wrote...

so how do you think Oriana will feel about Miranda working for those "terrorists"?

Doesn't she already kinda know? I mean in me2