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[shepskisaac]

jtav wrote...

That leaked article that showed up a few weeks back.

I think that article was fake as hell. It was suppoused to be from Xbox World, but it 'appeared' before we knew the article would be about multiplayer. The new Xbox World is out now and not a single mention of that Thane & Garrus missions that suppousedly were in the article.

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Modifié par IsaacShep, 29 octobre 2011 - 04:52 .

[CrutchCricket]

Skullheart wrote...

mmm... that's true, the several scenes might be for only one mision. We'll found out in march.

And, wich scenario you prefer to introduce her in the game?

- Damsel in distress, where she ends saving Shepard's team.
- She looking for us, for some complications in Lazarus.
- We started an assault to one of Cerberus bases, but we found some combat betwen Cerberus forces. One faction loyal to TIM (or indoctrinated), the other loyal to mankind.

Heh, I didn't know that first one could be asked with a straight face around here anymore. There's a pretty adamant feeling of "No Rescuing Miranda EVER". That being said we say we want more banter a la Shadow Broker. So I think a fun example that could be set up between Miranda and Shepard is a "who saved whom" back and forth. It starts with a few genuine saves (he saves her from falling, she pushes him out of the way of a missle, that sort of thing) and then they just play with it a bit during a firefight. It has to be subtle and can't go on longer than one skirmish or two (I don't want "that kill was mine" type things from Lord of the Rings throughout the whole game). Bonus points for the other squadmate with them being perplexed/slightly annoyed.

Otherwise where has it been confirmed that it's 8 permanent squad? I heard 6. If it's true (and I sincerely hope it is) that'll make a lot of things easier.

[flemm]

CrutchCricket wrote...
Otherwise where has it been confirmed that it's 8 permanent squad? I heard 6. If it's true (and I sincerely hope it is) that'll make a lot of things easier.

I don't believe anything's been confirmed. There's been some talk of the squad being between ME1 and ME2 in size, so 8 is probably extrapolated from that. It's certainly possible.

[Ieldra]

wolf99000 wrote...
well I did read on another forum so not sure how real the info is that there will be 8 full time squadmates so far we have not had 8 confirmed so I wonder if the li could be one I know bioware have said they are doing some new with them so could that be who ever the li is for the shepard you are playing will be on the ship with you

so if the li is not one of the 8 who are the others

If this information of eight full-time team members were confirmed, people would speculate about who the other three are all over the place. It appears plausible, but it has not been confirmed.

Also it's quite plausible that it will be exactly as Bioware said and no one will be exactly permanent. What I can see is a setup where team members join during specific missions, stay with you after that and leave after another specific mission. Not that I really believe it. The old GI article appears to be the most honest information, with everything that came after wriggling around the fact that many characters' fans will be disappointed while Garrus' and Tali's get pampered beyond the bearable. 

What I'm really curious about is how they'll show the old team members' doing their own thing elsewhere, where applicable. Emails seem a bit underwhelming. 

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...
What I'm really curious about is how they'll show the old team members' doing their own thing elsewhere, where applicable. Emails seem a bit underwhelming. 

I think the "doing their own thing" line of chatter is mostly a  reference to what they've been up to since ME2 and what they'll be doing when you meet them. For the temp squad members I don't expect there will be much after their main appearance expect perhaps at the final battle, if the writers arrange for all survivors to be involved at that point.

Modifié par flemm, 29 octobre 2011 - 05:33 .

[CrutchCricket]

Ieldra2 wrote...
The old GI article appears to be the most honest information, with everything that came after wriggling around the fact that many characters' fans will be disappointed while Garrus' and Tali's get pampered beyond the bearable. 

Hmm. I wonder which fans are the most vocal about their characters (besides the obvious Tali/ Garrus bunch). The OP here claims Miranda doesn't have as strong a base (), so who does?

[jtav]

As the OP who made that statement, I was comparing ours with the fanbases of those characters introduced in ME1, specifically the four already confirmed. And I think they're it for returning core squad, just because you need new characters to have a wide variety of both character and gameplay types.

[shepskisaac]

flemm wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...
Otherwise where has it been confirmed that it's 8 permanent squad? I heard 6. If it's true (and I sincerely hope it is) that'll make a lot of things easier.

I don't believe anything's been confirmed. There's been some talk of the squad being between ME1 and ME2 in size, so 8 is probably extrapolated from that. It's certainly possible.

We know there'll be less than 12 squadmates, that for sure. The guys who are very into powers/stats/points etc. calculated that based on the number of powers, there would be 10 characters available as squaddies in total (the discussion starts here). Would make sense. That means Ash, Kaidan, Liara, Vega, Garrus, Tali & Prothy (or whoever is the DLC character) take up 6 spots. 4 left for either new or old (ME2) squaddies or both.

[flemm]

IsaacShep wrote...We know there'll be less than 12 squadmates, that for sure. The guys who are very into powers/stats/points etc. calculated that based on the number of powers, there would be 10 characters available as squaddies in total (the discussion starts here). Would make sense. That means Ash, Kaidan, Liara, Vega, Garrus, Tali & Prothy (or whoever is the DLC character) take up 6 spots. 4 left for either new or old (ME2) squaddies or both.

I'm familiar with that discussion, yeah. Basically, the idea is that squad members will have two unique powers, so, with twenty unique squad powers in the game, that means 10 squad members. Though, actually, I think it would mean 9 slots, given the way the VS works. I suppose one could be a DLC character, or a "surprise" twist type of squad member, like maybe the Prothean. That would functionally mean 8 slots, five of which are already filled.

Modifié par flemm, 29 octobre 2011 - 06:05 .

[jtav]

And are temps getting their own unique powers?

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

And are temps getting their own unique powers?

If any of that is accurate deduction, then the answer would be no. The temporary squad members would then probably not have powers controlled by you, but would accompany you and your squad. (This is what Mordin appears to be doing in the demo.) Or they have redundant powers. "Temporary companions" would be a more appropriate term.

Modifié par flemm, 29 octobre 2011 - 06:05 .

[shepskisaac]

flemm wrote...

Though, actually, I think it would mean 9 slots, given the way the VS works. I suppose one could be a DLC character, or a "surprise" twist type of squad member, like maybe the Prothean. That would functionally mean 8 slots, five of which are already filled.

VS takes 1 slot in the actual game, but total-number-of-powers-wise, they take 2 spots since both Ash & Kaidan will have different powers obviously. In case they're the only two to share the same 'in-game slot', it would mean 10 squaddies in total but 9 slots available to fill in the actual game with these 10 squaddies.

Personally, I expect there will be another 1-slot-for-2-squaddie scenario, with Tali - Legion.

[flemm]

IsaacShep wrote...
VS takes 1 slot in the actual game, but total-number-of-powers-wise, they take 2 spots since both Ash & Kaidan will have different powers obviously. In case they're the only two to share the same 'in-game slot', it would mean 10 squaddies in total but 9 slots available to fill in the actual game with these 10 squaddies.

That was my point above, yeah, except I also pointed out that one slot could be a DLC character who is already in the game files. 

Modifié par flemm, 29 octobre 2011 - 06:12 .

[jtav]

So if there are nine:

VS (mostly Ash)
Vega (tank Soldier)
Liara (CC Adept)
Tali (Engineer, specialized against synthetics)
Garrus (Infiltrator)

Likely:
Prothean (unknown class)
Aria (unknown class, some biotics)

That leaves two slots.

[shepskisaac]

flemm wrote...

That was my point above, yeah, except I also pointed out that one slot could be a DLC character who is already in the game files.

If this is day 1 DLC squaddie (and it seems like one), then I doubt he's counted separately from other squaddies. But maybe? How was Zaeed 'counted'?

jtav wrote...

So if there are nine:

VS (mostly Ash)
Vega (tank Soldier)
Liara (CC Adept)
Tali (Engineer, specialized against synthetics)
Garrus (Infiltrator)

Likely:
Prothean (unknown class)
Aria (unknown class, some biotics)

That leaves two slots.

If Aria is actually a squaddie, then almost for sure only temprorary one so she wouldn't be taking the 'spot'. But then again, 1 spot will almost for sure be taken by new 'main' female squaddie/LI, counterpart to Vega. It could be Aria, but it doesn't matter really. Agree that 2 spots seem to be left only. Very little.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 29 octobre 2011 - 06:16 .

[flemm]

IsaacShep wrote...
If this is day 1 DLC squaddie (and it seems like one), then I doubt he's counted separately from other squaddies. But maybe? How was Zaeed 'counted'?

Zaeed is #11 in ME2. So, it might make sense that day 1 DLC is #9. Could very well be the Prothean. So, that brings us back to the base squad of 8.

Modifié par flemm, 29 octobre 2011 - 06:16 .

[Barquiel]

jtav wrote...

So if there are nine:

VS (mostly Ash)
Vega (tank Soldier)
Liara (CC Adept)
Tali (Engineer, specialized against synthetics)
Garrus (Infiltrator)

Likely:
Prothean (unknown class)
Aria (unknown class, some biotics)

That leaves two slots.

I think Aria will be a temporary squadmate.

[shepskisaac]

flemm wrote...

Zaeed is #11 in ME2. So, it might make sense that day 1 DLC is #9. Could very well be the Prothean. So, that brings us back to the base squad of 8.

In the end, there's still chance Miranda might be available as perma-squaddie. Out of all ME2 squaddies (except for Tali & Garrus of course), I can see only her and/or Legion being also available for 'permanent' recruitement, with Legion being an optional replacement for Tali at the end of Rannoch mission.

[flemm]

IsaacShep wrote...
In the end, there's still chance Miranda might be available as perma-squaddie.

Agreed. This is actually a repeat of what I said a few hundred pages ago, but I think the following is still very plausible:

ME1: Liara, VS

ME1 + ME2: Garrus, Tali

ME2: Miranda, Legion

New ME3: Vega, Aria (or somebody else, if Aria is temp)

+ day 1 DLC (Prothean)

Modifié par flemm, 29 octobre 2011 - 06:26 .

[shepskisaac]

flemm wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
In the end, there's still chance Miranda might be available as perma-squaddie.

Agreed. This is actually a repeat of what I said a few hundred pages ago, but I think the following is still very plausible:

ME1: Liara, VS

ME1 + ME 2: Garrus, Tali

ME2: Miranda, Legion

New ME3: Vega, Aria (or somebody else, if Aria is temp)

+day 1 DLC (Prothean)

Would seem about right. BioWare sure love their 'patterns'. Plus, Miranda was the hardest to kill during SM, and Legion is the only one who could actually be 'brought back from death' somehow (since he's a machince and blah blah).

Modifié par IsaacShep, 29 octobre 2011 - 06:28 .

[nitefyre410]

flemm wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
In the end, there's still chance Miranda might be available as perma-squaddie.

Agreed. This is actually a repeat of what I said a few hundred pages ago, but I think the following is still very plausible:

ME1: Liara, VS

ME1 + ME 2: Garrus, Tali

ME2: Miranda, Legion

New ME3: Vega, Aria (or somebody else, if Aria is temp)

+day 1 DLC (Prothean)

 

If Bioware does this my rage will  know no end... their dead let them stay dead.   

Liara, VS, Garrus, Tali, Mira, Legion, Vega, Wrex and/or Grunt  and a few more... ME 2 had 14 squads mates at the end I don't see what ME 3 should be any less espiecally with the power trees, and supposedly new open maps that allow for different approachs  for missions.   Through I would prefer if they went for a more open world like  quest system with Hubs and such.  

Modifié par nitefyre410, 29 octobre 2011 - 06:32 .

[shepskisaac]

nitefyre410 wrote...

If Bioware does this my rage will  know no end... their dead let them stay dead.  

I say better prepare for it. Every previous squaddie rumor ended up true. Legion, Archangel-Garrus, Kasumi.

[flemm]

For the record, class comp of that set-up is:

Soldier: Vega + Ashley
Infiltrator: Garrus
Sentinel: Miranda + Kaidan
Engineer: Tali + Legion
Adept: Liara
Vanguard: Aria (speculation, but seems plausible, since she's an asari commando, i.e. combat/biotics)

Male LI: Kaidan, Vega, Garrus
Female LI: Ashley, Miranda, Tali
Asari LI: Liara, Aria

So, it's plausible overall.

Modifié par flemm, 29 octobre 2011 - 06:35 .

[nitefyre410]

IsaacShep wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

If Bioware does this my rage will  know no end... their dead let them stay dead.  

I say better prepare for it. Every previous squaddie rumor ended up true. Legion, Archangel-Garrus, Kasumi.

 


*grabs bottle marks it Rage for Protean  Squadmate* 

All I have to say is that  the Prothean better be a game breaker made of raw pure awesome. 

[jtav]

Legion might be better classed as an Infiltrator. And you still need someone with Incinerate.