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[Melra]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Checked. Barely says anything. I know people here aren't fans of the "rescue" scenario but it could've been a lot worse. We still don't know anything really. Data is inconclusive. I think we can relax

Some aren't, some are. I find it incredibly ridiculous, I am sure they'd cry Miranda accepted Shepard's help to pull up on her feet at some point in the game. She's not a freaking Wonder Woman or unstoppable killing machine.

[CrutchCricket]

flemm wrote...
Well, as some of us have theorized, Mr. Lawson does turn out to be important, and you must go through him to get to TIM. But Miranda's involvement would at this point appear to be limited to being captured by him, then freed by Shepard.

So, it's hard to get too excited about that info.

And is this the "one mission"? Or merely the end of the arc?

[flemm]

ViSeirA wrote...
Haha, I take it you've read it then? 

Yep. Might as well get it out there

[MisterJB]

Miranda used to be the only female LI Shepard never had to rescue.
Excuse me for being upset.

[naledgeborn]

Rescue isn't bad. Helpless Miranda is. Also doesn't help that this maybe the only time we see her and depending on how pessimistic you are you can interpret her death in there somewhere.

[jtav]

The reason I'm not fond of the rescue scenario as stated here is that she's been reduced to a prop without agency or power of her own. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't implied this was it for her.

[flemm]

CrutchCricket wrote...

And is this the "one mission"? Or merely the end of the arc?

I think at best it would be the beginning of her involvement. But it doesn't really sound like it. Sounds like that's pretty much it, to be perfectly honest.

[ViSeiRa]

MisterJB wrote...

And then the ultimate ignomy, killed off-screen.

You know, Miranda dying in ME3 isn't bad on itself if her death has meaning and purpose, off-screen is the insulting part.

[Melra]

MisterJB wrote...

Miranda used to be the only female LI Shepard never had to rescue.
Excuse me for being upset.

Nobody is invincible. I mean come on the odds her vs Reapers and Cerberus.. It's not like it's just bunch of ordinary Geth.

[Melra]

ViSeirA wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

And then the ultimate ignomy, killed off-screen.

You know, Miranda dying in ME3 isn't bad on itself if her death has meaning and purpose, off-screen is the insulting part.

Her dying would be the worst thing ever. I just hope there's enough good material to be watched on YouTube.

[ViSeiRa]

flemm wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...
Haha, I take it you've read it then? 

Yep. Might as well get it out there

Yeah, well... everyone can check the rest of the plot leak here, major spoilers warning of course and some stuff are not in order.

[flemm]

Melrache wrote...

Nobody is invincible. I mean come on the odds her vs Reapers and Cerberus.. It's not like it's just bunch of ordinary Geth.

Well, I don't have a huge issue with her being rescued per se, but as her only involvement in the game? Meh, that sucks, no matter how you slice it.

[naledgeborn]

I hope flemm is right though. Her mission serves as a middle of the game platform for recruitment. And I hope she's half past breaking out when Shepard catches up.

[goofyomnivore]

This is my worst case:
(1) Oriana Plot Hook
(2) Rescue Miranda/Oriana mission
(3) Shepard is forced to pick who lives, Miranda or Oriana

Two of those seem to have at least been considered, the third would give BioWare sufficient cause to not include Miranda further down the major plot, and render her to simply an off screen character or dead. Not to mention if you did pick her, she would probably be very bitter towards Shepard for it, and the romance/friendship arc would be in critical condition Which could lead to a;

(4) Miranda joins TIM/is indoctrinated to fight against Shepard and dies anyways/is offscreen the majority of the game.

Modifié par strive, 07 novembre 2011 - 03:12 .

[naledgeborn]

And to throw some gasoline on strive's bonfire:
(3) Miranda is infertile; Oriana is not.

[MisterJB]

ViSeirA wrote...
You know, Miranda dying in ME3 isn't bad on itself if her death has meaning and purpose, off-screen is the insulting part.

If an active LI has a mandatory death, I expect all others to have the same fate. Some LIs dying while others live happily ever after would be a travesty.

[jtav]

Do you guys still want me around? I can say with absolute truthfulness that I don't want Miranda in my game.

[ViSeiRa]

Melrache wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

And then the ultimate ignomy, killed off-screen.

You know, Miranda dying in ME3 isn't bad on itself if her death has meaning and purpose, off-screen is the insulting part.

Her dying would be the worst thing ever. I just hope there's enough good material to be watched on YouTube.

Not necessarily, what if she died giving Shepard a last chance to defeat the reapers? meaning and purpose are what matter, Miranda being a martyr is so much better in my eyes than the fiasco in this leak.

[CrutchCricket]

I still don't think there's enough data to judge. What ever happened to "bare-bones outline" or "unfinished product"? I don't want to be one of those people who chants "it's a beta" like a personal creed but seriously I don't think it's the end and I certainly don't think we can conclude either way right now.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 07 novembre 2011 - 03:19 .

[naledgeborn]

MisterJB wrote...

If an active LI has a mandatory death, I expect all others to have the same fate. Some LIs dying while others live happily ever after would be a travesty.

Nay, it would be injustice. I will have to go spelunking in caves around Edmonton and look for drake stone and sela petrae.

There can be no peace.

Modifié par naledgeborn, 07 novembre 2011 - 03:19 .

[goofyomnivore]

jtav wrote...

Do you guys still want me around? I can say with absolute truthfulness that I don't want Miranda in my game.

I enjoy having you around, and share similar opinions and views as you do(you and your fics have influenced me a lot when it comes to Miranda). If BioWare destroys Miranda in ME3, so be it, but we still have headcanons and what if's. Your fanfics are class too. I'm not going to be as hasty though on writing her off just yet. I'll probably play the game, but I may let Miranda die in the SM to save her from a pitiful ME3 appearance if it comes to that.

Modifié par strive, 07 novembre 2011 - 03:21 .

[naledgeborn]

jtav wrote...

Do you guys still want me around? I can say with absolute truthfulness that I don't want Miranda in my game.

Yes, who will I have to rage-shake my fist at while reading their fanfics?

[flemm]

Well, if the leak is the extent of Miranda's involvement, it would be pretty awful, really. Granted, quite a few other characters seem to only make brief appearances, but they seem to do something significant. Or maybe I should say: they do something.

I've got to believe there'll be a bit more than this in the final product. But, unless something pretty huge is missing or has been added, it does look like it will suck rather massively.

Modifié par flemm, 07 novembre 2011 - 03:24 .

[Melra]

ViSeirA wrote...

Melrache wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

And then the ultimate ignomy, killed off-screen.

You know, Miranda dying in ME3 isn't bad on itself if her death has meaning and purpose, off-screen is the insulting part.

Her dying would be the worst thing ever. I just hope there's enough good material to be watched on YouTube.

Not necessarily, what if she died giving Shepard a last chance to defeat the reapers? meaning and purpose are what matter, Miranda being a martyr is so much better in my eyes than the fiasco in this leak.

Who cares about the reapers? I am playing just for the Mirimance. Either they finish it together or they don't do it at all. 

[ViSeiRa]

MisterJB wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...
You know, Miranda dying in ME3 isn't bad on itself if her death has meaning and purpose, off-screen is the insulting part.

If an active LI has a mandatory death, I expect all others to have the same fate. Some LIs dying while others live happily ever after would be a travesty.

I agree, but it seems other characters are getting preferential treatment anyway, if it happens I'd mostly rage about the off-screen part as I said before, as long as she doesn't go like some sort of useless foot soldier who got bombed or killed by a husk.