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[flemm]

jtav wrote...

And I hate it. I assure you I'm the furthest thing from gloating.

Believe me, I understand.

[jtav]

Damn it, BW, you could have at least made her cameo awesome.

[Ieldra]

All right. Take this as a tribute to a Miranda that once was. Damn it, I've been playing games for 30 years, but never has a piece of news about a game made me cry with disappointment. Thanks, Bioware, for adding this to my gaming experience. I will not forget.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 07 novembre 2011 - 10:17 .

[CrutchCricket]

Ieldra2 wrote...

@CrutchCricket:
Why should I post a Miranda picture at the moment? ME2's hypercompetent operative is gone, reduced to a shadow of what she might have been.

Proof?

Also I see at least 2 fallacies in your implied argument that anything Priestly says as a rumor will come true.

But as to why post a picture: EDIT: 'd

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 07 novembre 2011 - 10:17 .

[MisterJB]

We will always have Mass Effect 2. But yeah, I spilled some tears as well.

[naledgeborn]

 A sad day for Mass Effect fans, an even sadder day for Miranda fans.

[Ieldra]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

@CrutchCricket:
Why should I post a Miranda picture at the moment? ME2's hypercompetent operative is gone, reduced to a shadow of what she might have been.

Proof?

Also I see at least 2 fallacies in your implied argument that anything Priestly says as a rumor will come true.

Proof? Of course there's no proof. But both past experiences and the absence of evidence that should be there count, even they're not conclusive.

But as to why post a picture: EDIT: 'd

Except it didn't cheer me up.

[Ieldra]

I just don't understand it. We've had our disagreements here, some of them almost violent, but the one thing *everyone* here wanted was a powerful Miranda who could hold her own, had her own initiative and walk at Shepard's side.

This feels like a deliberate kick in the face from the Bioware writers.

[Bourne Endeavor]

Can someone toss me a message (so as to avoid spoilers for those who do not want them) about what happened to Miranda?

[naledgeborn]

We didn't want a cameo either (which might be still up in the air). It's like they read every post in this thread and thought "hey, let's do the exact goddamn opposite. I'm sure her fan base would really hate it."

[jtav]

I understand the necessity of a small role, sorta, but why can't she at least be awesome?/

[Ieldra]

Bourne Endeavor wrote...
Can someone toss me a message (so as to avoid spoilers for those who do not want them) about what happened to Miranda?

Done.

[diamondedge]

Could I have some as well? I have heard certain things but I can't possibly believe them!

[CrutchCricket]

Ieldra2 wrote...
But believing in something requires some evidence that it is actually there.

Your own words Ieldra. If believing Miranda is the center of the galaxy requires proof, why should believing she's wasted be any different? There is no proof. There are only stick figures on a rough draft God knows how old. It's not a question of balancing good from bad because there wasn't supposed to be any good or bad.

Look I'm trying to be as exacting in my logic as I can. Clearly people on the internet can be convinced by logic no more than those in real life. Obviously there are some emotional responses here that won't be chased away by any arguments. All I can say is I spent most of today working it out for myself and trying to help others on here do the same. Do you think I slept any easier after discovering the leak last night? I woke up determined to start lobbying Bioware to push back the release date so they can get it right (mind you I was concerned about the overall plot as well not just Miranda and I fully knew how slim my chances were). But as I worked through what was there and only what was there I realized that all the doom and panic was just that. The conclusion is simple:

No, Miranda is not set in stone as email-email-rescue-credits-cake.
No, Bioware is not out to get us.
No, they did not RUIN IT FOREVER
Yes, some clueless dolt at Microsoft clicked the wrong button and sent us some stick figures.
Yes, Mass Effect 3 might hold its share of disappointments but these shares are not as inevitable as the sun rising.

Now for everyone, whether you want to continue with your gloomy emotions or not is ultimately up to you.  But know that there are arguments that can give you hope if you let them.

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I just don't understand it. We've had our disagreements here, some of them almost violent, but the one thing *everyone* here wanted was a powerful Miranda who could hold her own, had her own initiative and walk at Shepard's side.

This feels like a deliberate kick in the face from the Bioware writers.

Could only be getting started, honestly. It's naturally still possible that there is some good Miranda material absent from the leaks, but it's equally possible that there's more bad news to come.

Given how heavily the SB dossier plays into these leaks, I thinks it's extremely unlikely that we will escape without some reference to the whole infertility thing, if the romance is flagged.

[Eyeshield21]

sigh, **** this bull****. BW, I thought highly of you, now? its losing light.
Better make some changes, or about 10,000 pre-orders will go in flames.(that, and army of Miri fans will come to your building with pitchforks and stuff)

Modifié par Eyeshield21, 07 novembre 2011 - 10:49 .

[ThomGau]

Sorry for being somewhat redundant but could somebody please send me a PM about Miranda's situation as well please ?
Sad day for all of us if all of what I've read here today is accurate ...

[AccursedOdin]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
But believing in something requires some evidence that it is actually there.

Your own words Ieldra. If believing Miranda is the center of the galaxy requires proof, why should believing she's wasted be any different? There is no proof. There are only stick figures on a rough draft God knows how old. It's not a question of balancing good from bad because there wasn't supposed to be any good or bad.

Look I'm trying to be as exacting in my logic as I can. Clearly people on the internet can be convinced by logic no more than those in real life. Obviously there are some emotional responses here that won't be chased away by any arguments. All I can say is I spent most of today working it out for myself and trying to help others on here do the same. Do you think I slept any easier after discovering the leak last night? I woke up determined to start lobbying Bioware to push back the release date so they can get it right (mind you I was concerned about the overall plot as well not just Miranda and I fully knew how slim my chances were). But as I worked through what was there and only what was there I realized that all the doom and panic was just that. The conclusion is simple:

No, Miranda is not set in stone as email-email-rescue-credits-cake.
No, Bioware is not out to get us.
No, they did not RUIN IT FOREVER
Yes, some clueless dolt at Microsoft clicked the wrong button and sent us some stick figures.
Yes, Mass Effect 3 might hold its share of disappointments but these shares are not as inevitable as the sun rising.

Now for everyone, whether you want to continue with your gloomy emotions or not is ultimately up to you.  But know that there are arguments that can give you hope if you let them.

You know what, person I've never met before? I think I like you.

[naledgeborn]

Shepard's struggle for the survival of the human race can be paralleled with our uphill battle to get Miranda a decent amount of quality exposure.

Fight For The Squadmate

[Eyeshield21]

naledgeborn wrote...

Shepard's struggle for the survival of the human race can be paralleled with our uphill battle to get Miranda a decent amount of quality exposure.

Fight For The Squadmate

WE MUST ASSUME CONTROL!!!

[CrutchCricket]

AccursedOdin wrote...
You know what, person I've never met before? I think I like you.

Awesome! I was starting to think I wouldn't be making friends around here anymore. Put'er there pal:wizard:

[goofyomnivore]

Now for everyone, whether you want to continue with your gloomy emotions or not is ultimately up to you. But know that there are arguments that can give you hope if you let them.

I don't think anyone doubts that, but everyone is entitled to what they think will happen and what they believe is realistic. Many seem to lean towards the negative side. There isn't anything wrong with that. That is their speculation based off of their own conclusions. I'm sure most rational people have considered the "hope", but aren't buying into that happening.

It isn't anymore wrong for them to believe that than for you to believe in a more positive outlook.

[Eyeshield21]

seriously though, someone pm me about what new Miranda info has us feeling pissed and sad, cause from what I'm reading(and the replies I made) I want to know whats going on.

[AccursedOdin]

CrutchCricket wrote...

AccursedOdin wrote...
You know what, person I've never met before? I think I like you.

Awesome! I was starting to think I wouldn't be making friends around here anymore. Put'er there pal:wizard:

I'm a fan of people who can keep their heads on straight.

Modifié par AccursedOdin, 07 novembre 2011 - 10:57 .