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[CrutchCricket]

Ieldra2 wrote...
It makes no sense to leave some info in the files that haven't, at some time, been correct. Remember that this is not from the actual game file, but from a design document. Of course it's incomplete, very much so, very noticeably so, and more incomplete the older it is. But I'd take any bet that all Miranda-related info is 100% correct. It's just not all there is and it tells us nothing about how the scenes actually play out.

Except there isn't any Miranda info, not really. It just gives a where and what. It might as well say [insert Miranda here]. And your point about tying off loose ends actually helps justify this because it now becomes [insert Miranda-Oriana-Cerberus resolution here] Sure it's correct... as much as [insert x here] can be correct.

[jtav]

And you know what just dawned on me. Sanctuary is on Horizon. *insane laughter* Maybe we team up with VS fans to get drunk.

[casedawgz]

jtav wrote...

It's *exactly* what it sounds like.

[flemm]

jtav wrote...
Sanctuary is on Horizon.

LoL, yeah.

I guess that means Miranda will have a large role in ME4... oh wait...

[Ieldra]

redBadger14 wrote...
Shepard starts off with Miranda in ME3 (at whatever point) in helping her save Oriana from her father. This is likely to lead to an inevitable confrontation with her father somewhere along the line, and choices will likely have to be made in regards to Oriana (maybe not though who knows). Miranda's father has connections to TIM, and this confrontation with her father gives Shepard an amazing opportunity; to be able to track down TIM and stop him once and for all. Let's speculate for a second that, whatever happens, Oriana is saved, Miranda's father is stopped (in some way), and Shepard discovers the location of The Illusive Man and/or the main Cerberus headquarters.

So for, this is exactly what the leaked information implies. In fact, Shepard goes there to get that information and rescues Miranda on the way. It's all within one mission though, and that has people worried.

Naturally, I think Miranda would accompany Shepard to revisit TIM knowing full well Cerberus is trying to kill Shepard. Who knows, maybe after Miranda's resignation, TIM has had Cerberus hunting her too. Think on that for a minute while I continue.

Naturally, yes. But will they (the writers) let her?

So, the final premise is that Shepard and Miranda travel to The Illusive Man's base and cue huge battle en route to TIM signature office. I speculate there will be major decisions upon confronting TIM (possibly a boss fight too). Imagine this, a major choice regarding Miranda, The Illusive Man, and Cerberus. Shepard can do one of two things; Kill The Illusive Man, let Miranda take control of Cerberus and all it's assets and allow her to realign Cerberus with Shepard's cause to fight the Reapers (Paragon naturally), OR Shepard can spare The Illusive Man in exchange for leaving him in control of Cerberus while making TIM promise to stop hunting Shepard and start helping his cause, causing Miranda to become extremely upset and leave Shepard entirely (Renegade choice).

That's what we all wanted, hoped and speculated to see until yesterday. Plainly, it seems increasingly unlikely that there will be such a choice, for reasons I won't disclose here. The TIW scenario is not totally out of the window yet, but turning TIM from his course won't happen. Well, if they don't change things.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 08 novembre 2011 - 04:58 .

[CrutchCricket]

I should revive my "ridiculous speculation" thread and add this to it:

jtav will say something cheerful/positive.

[Vertigo_1]

Update:

Chris Priestly wrote...

Hi everyone

After some investigation, we are able to provide further information regarding the Mass Effect 3 leaks this weekend:

Following the accidental public release of the internal beta, some information was extracted from game files that was then released on the internet. That information was found in test entries in our database which represent rough notes on mission summaries from early story drafts. These story outlines do not form the actual game script, and since most of these entries are from first-draft story documents, many of the elements will be different in the final game. These simplified entries also do not represent the actual dialog, non-linearity, or interactive choices in the actual game. In fact, the team is still hard at work writing and implementing final versions of storylines and dialog.

It should go without saying however that reading leaked Mass Effect 3 files - however out of date they may be - will likely spoil your experience in the game. We ask that you join with us in keeping the BioWare Social Network spoiler-free, so that as many players as possible can discover the surprises and revelations of Mass Effect 3 in the game itself.



{smilie}

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 08 novembre 2011 - 04:54 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

MisterJB wrote...

Someone should type a message strictly for BioWare on this pick. So who's going to do it? Any ideas of what to type of this picture?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 08 novembre 2011 - 04:55 .

[jtav]

Frankly, I don't believe him. They said the same thing about DAO and DA2. Details may change but the overall outline won't.

[Ieldra]

casedawgz wrote...

jtav wrote...
It's *exactly* what it sounds like.

*facepalm image removed*

What's so bad about that? I find it interesting.

[flemm]

CrutchCricket wrote...

I should revive my "ridiculous speculation" thread and add this to it:

jtav will say something cheerful/positive.

Oh, I don't know. I think, all things considered, jtav has been quite upbeat

Miranda having a huge impact at the end of the Cerberus arc strikes me as fairly implausible at this point. But, if she's recruitable, she might be around for it, with perhaps some added dialog with TIM.

Modifié par flemm, 08 novembre 2011 - 04:58 .

[spirosz]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Update:

Chris Priestly wrote...

Hi everyone

After some investigation, we are able to provide further information regarding the Mass Effect 3 leaks this weekend:

Following the accidental public release of the internal beta, some information was extracted from game files that was then released on the internet. That information was found in test entries in our database which represent rough notes on mission summaries from early story drafts. These story outlines do not form the actual game script, and since most of these entries are from first-draft story documents, many of the elements will be different in the final game. These simplified entries also do not represent the actual dialog, non-linearity, or interactive choices in the actual game. In fact, the team is still hard at work writing and implementing final versions of storylines and dialog.

It should go without saying however that reading leaked Mass Effect 3 files - however out of date they may be - will likely spoil your experience in the game. We ask that you join with us in keeping the BioWare Social Network spoiler-free, so that as many players as possible can discover the surprises and revelations of Mass Effect 3 in the game itself.



{smilie}

Was gonna post that

[casedawgz]

I don't know, I just can't imagine for a way for it to be in the game and not be horribly contrived. Any way that you can outline a dead race continuing for 50,000 years after its population has reached the point of no return is probably not going to satisfy me, especially because Ilos has demonstrated that cryostasis can't be maintained for that long.

[Ieldra]

casedawgz wrote...
I don't know, I just can't imagine for a way for it to be in the game and not be horribly contrived. Any way that you can outline a dead race continuing for 50,000 years after its population has reached the point of no return is probably not going to satisfy me, especially because Ilos has demonstrated that cryostasis can't be maintained for that long.

It can be maintained. They just didn't have enough power.

[MisterJB]

Wait, Sanctuary is our Horizon or Sanctuary is situated on the actual colony of Horizon?

Thanks for posting that, Vertigo. It's something to hold on to, at least.

[CrutchCricket]

Vertigo_1, you are my favorite person on page 799!
jtav: What the hell? Seriously.
Ieldra: You don't find a single living member of a race that's been extinct for 50000 years being on the squad even remotely implausible? To say nothing of demistifying the Protheans.
flemm: You're scaring me...

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 08 novembre 2011 - 05:01 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

If we are stuck with a conflict where we have to choose to save Miri or Oriana, and we save Miri, she may not ever forgive us nor want to talk to us again. Either way we would lose Miri.

BUT, what if she does come back to us since we do have a Romantic Relationship with her, and if you didn't, she will never come back.

[casedawgz]

Ieldra2 wrote...

casedawgz wrote...
I don't know, I just can't imagine for a way for it to be in the game and not be horribly contrived. Any way that you can outline a dead race continuing for 50,000 years after its population has reached the point of no return is probably not going to satisfy me, especially because Ilos has demonstrated that cryostasis can't be maintained for that long.

It can be maintained. They just didn't have enough power.

The only way it could even be slightly feasible is if this prothean was squirrelled away on the CItadel because without Keepers maintaining it there would really be no way to maintain power for 50 millenia. 

[flemm]

MisterJB wrote...

Wait, Sanctuary is our Horizon or Sanctuary is situated on the actual colony of Horizon?

According to the leak, it's actually on Horizon.

[MisterJB]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Someone should type a message strictly for BioWare on this pick. So who's going to do it? Any ideas of what to type of this picture?

"Hello, Bioware. Look at your Miranda. Now back to me. Now back to your Miranda. Now back to me. Sadly, she isn't me. But if she stopped acting like a damsel in distress and started kicking ass besides Shepard, she could act like she is me."

[jtav]

That's why I was bursting into insane laughter.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Frankly, I don't believe him. They said the same thing about DAO and DA2. Details may change but the overall outline won't.

Neither do I. I think the leaked info is 95% correct, just incomplete. Given the impact of that stuff on my mental health, if temporarily, I might actually go to the trouble and compare once the game is out.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 08 novembre 2011 - 05:05 .

[CrutchCricket]

OK am I the only one seeing the words "first draft"? Anyone else seeing that? Anyone?

[MisterJB]

flemm wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Wait, Sanctuary is our Horizon or Sanctuary is situated on the actual colony of Horizon?

According to the leak, it's actually on Horizon.

So, I'm guessing Bioware is going for irony. In ME2, Shepard and Miranda who were with Cerberus saved Ashley (this is obviously meant to have a significance on the romance conflict). Now, Shepard and Ashley who are with the Alliance are going to save Miranda from Cerberus.

**** this, I need a drink. I'm starting to see moral rigtheousness written on this.

[casedawgz]

Nope, you're a voice of reason Cricket. I'm pretty sure they're not going to release a 30 hour game with four permanant squadmates.