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[spirosz]

jtav wrote...

No, you don't. But you don't generally give a character a huge connection to the 2IC/secondary antagonist and there role be getting rescued from the geth.

She can still be involved later with plots concerning Cerberus or Tim. Just because she's getting rescued at one point, doesn't mean she can't influence something in the future.

[CrutchCricket]

Ieldra: Got caught up with RL stuff and wasn't able to reply. Have PM'd you so we don't have to drag that convo back out.

Now that that's done:

I still don't think we have enough data to just conclude she's been sidelined that that's the end of the story. But given that we are speculating about why it may seem that way, I guess I'd have to ask if anyone knows how big Miranda's fan base really is compared to other characters. I know we have the biggest thread, but like I've pointed out before we're just a few very vocal and very argumentative people and not a horde of pic spamming sycophants (I only exaggerate, I don't apply this to any character group) I have only been around for the last 100 pages but is it possible we just weren't pushing our favorite as much as other groups were? Discussions raged in here I'm sure but how much promotion was done?

It may be moot since from what I understand other characters in the leak didn't exactly get exalted (another reason not to take it to heart I might add). But my second question is what if Bioware is (or was) disregarding characters in general and just doing story?

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

jtav wrote...

But that wasn't her entire role either. Sorry I have a habit of leaving off parts of sentences.

and you know the whole of Miranda's story in ME3 from where exactly?

Wait you can't have because the leak had no mention of romances and didn't seem to go through every possible 'choice/variable' that there could be. Thus as I said earlier, you don't know it all.

[jtav]

But that rescue is all we currently have. There could be more-- and there will be at least an additional scene if you romance her--but we aren't seeing it. Her involvement could very well end after we kill her father. That's what we're worried about.

[naledgeborn]

The spoilers have left *everyone* with a bad taste in their mouth. As far as we've perceived Miranda's going in the opposite direction of what we anticipated. It's going to take some time and a lot of cachaça to wash it down. For me at least.

Modifié par naledgeborn, 09 novembre 2011 - 12:45 .

[Skullheart]

Leaving a pic (whe didn't get much from page 800 )

Here we can see Mirand standing with Shepard at his side, not under his shadow.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

naledgeborn wrote...

The spoilers have left *everyone* with a bad taste in their mouth. As far as we've perceived Miranda's going in the opposite direction of what we anticipated. It's going to take some time and a lot of cachaça to wash it down. For me at least.

You know the opinion of every Miranda fan do you? Clearly you don't because I don't have a bad taste in my mouth because unlike *some* of the people here, I'm not taking the spoilers as the utmost full and complete story like it seems like you and the *some* others do.

Yes I'd like to know some more stuff, but not at the expense of the story being properly spoiled and so if for them to tell us more about Miranda would entail said instance occuring I am all ok with them remaining quiet on the subject till launch if need be.

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 09 novembre 2011 - 12:56 .

[naledgeborn]

That was the point of the asterisks, I was implying that I was speaking in generalizations. I thought that was obvious.

[jtav]

And quite frankly I have been burned by writers enough that I'm not just going to blithely assume that there's more without evidence. There is an optimistic reading of events, but it's been no more convincing than the pessimistic one, and in some ways less so.

[spirosz]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

The spoilers have left *everyone* with a bad taste in their mouth. As far as we've perceived Miranda's going in the opposite direction of what we anticipated. It's going to take some time and a lot of cachaça to wash it down. For me at least.

You know the opinion of every Miranda fan do you? Clearly you don't because I don't have a bad taste in my mouth because unlike *some* of the people here, I'm not taking the spoilers as the utmost full and complete story like it seems like you and the *some* others do.

Chill out bro! I don't have a bad taste in my mouth either, but I understand where some people are coming from and I believe the majority do feel a bit betrayed, if that's even the right word to use.

[Radahldo]

naledgeborn wrote...

That was the point of the asterisks, I was implying that I was speaking in generalizations. I thought that was obvious.

Thats really weird! He used asterisks the same way you used them in yours yet he misunderstand your point...

[CrutchCricket]

Sir Ulrich, you'll find the "pessimistic" view of things is grossly overrepresented and overexposed on here. I assure you there are people here who take this leak for what it is.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 09 novembre 2011 - 01:02 .

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

And quite frankly I have been burned by writers enough that I'm not just going to blithely assume that there's more without evidence. There is an optimistic reading of events, but it's been no more convincing than the pessimistic one, and in some ways less so.

Admittedly, that is so.

However, I will say this: my first reaction to glancing at the leaked info was actually very positive because...

*trying out spoiler text below*

The first info presented is that Miranda's father is a necessary step toward confronting TIM. Seriously, if we heard that a couple of weeks ago, separate from the leak, what would our reaction have been?
 
Conceptually, that sets up a situation where the central plot of the game, leading up to the finale, runs straight through a couple of Miranda's plot hooks, basically. When you look closer at the leaked info, it seems that Miranda basically makes a lame cameo, which would be doubly frustrating given how the rest of the plot unfolds.

But I'm not sure. With the plot laid out like that, it seems pretty plausible that there's more. Realistically, there should be.

[CrutchCricket]

flemm wrote...
*trying out spoiler text below*

Mind=blown:o

That's a great idea for spoiler hiding, flemm!

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 09 novembre 2011 - 01:15 .

[naledgeborn]

What you've never done that before? Just set txt color to dark grey.

[flemm]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Mind=blown:o

That's a great idea for spoiler hiding, flemm!

Not original to me, I'm afraid. Still, it should be useful moving forward.

The code I am using is actually:

{color=rgb(50, 50, 50)} spoiler text here {/color}

You need to replace { and } with [ and ] to make it work (can't type it that way or it would not be visible).

Modifié par flemm, 09 novembre 2011 - 02:41 .

[jtav]

edit. Never mind.

Modifié par jtav, 09 novembre 2011 - 01:22 .

[CrutchCricket]

Never had to deal with spoilers on here before. And everyone else I saw that posted them just used strikethrough and/or all caps warnings before and after. This way is neat and efficient.

[flemm]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Never had to deal with spoilers on here before. And everyone else I saw that posted them just used strikethrough and/or all caps warnings before and after. This way is neat and efficient.

Some boards make it easier to block spoilers than this one. I had to do a search. But I do think it would be a useful approach in this thread for the time being.

Modifié par flemm, 09 novembre 2011 - 01:24 .

[aftohsix]

Just curious but I'm out of the loop (way out of the loop) I'm guessing people have the impression Miranda won't be in ME3 and that's why they're upset? Can somebody update me real quick? I don't want to dig through an 800 page thread. Thanks!

[CrutchCricket]

aftohsix wrote...

Just curious but I'm out of the loop (way out of the loop) I'm guessing people have the impression Miranda won't be in ME3 and that's why they're upset? Can somebody update me real quick? I don't want to dig through an 800 page thread. Thanks!

Go go gadget spoiler tags!

(No I didn't post anything. I'll leave that up for others)

[flemm]

aftohsix wrote...

Just curious but I'm out of the loop (way out of the loop) I'm guessing people have the impression Miranda won't be in ME3 and that's why they're upset? Can somebody update me real quick? I don't want to dig through an 800 page thread. Thanks!

Well, more the impression that she may be making a lame cameo, based on some leaked info that may or may not be misleading as to the extent of Miranda's involvement.

[aftohsix]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Go go gadget spoiler tags!

(No I didn't post anything. I'll leave that up for others)

Kind of assumed a thread with the heading ***SPOILERS*** sort of implied that.  Seriously I've seen a few other people post this and I'm just curious.  I've been pretty much MIA from the forums.

flemm wrote...


Well, more the impression that she may be making a lame cameo, based on some leaked info that may or may not be misleading as to the extent of Miranda's involvement.

Thanks.  That's what I needed to know.  My opinion is that not enough info was actually released to make a solid conclusion one way or another at this point.  Just checking to see if others saw something I didn't.  Good to know.  Still excited for March!

Modifié par aftohsix, 09 novembre 2011 - 01:31 .

[GMagnum]

i never knew dat she culd dance like dis
she make a man wan speak spanish
como se llama?
bonita
mi casa
su casa
miranda, miranda


dat my song for miranda hip dont lie remixxxx
shoutout 2 bsn

[Elyvern]

aftohsix wrote...

My opinion is that not enough info was actually released to make a solid conclusion one way or another at this point. Just checking to see if others saw something I didn't.  Good to know.  Still excited for March!

I had to pop in after Ieldra mentioned the leaks and how he was affected by it. My god, I never expected the train wreak that's running through this thread. I think that's a healthy approach you're taking to the whole issue and I feel a little bit of distance from the whole thing might actually serve everybody some good. A thread that runs several pages a day is a good sign that Miranda has many fans that care about her, but the tendency also is to keep swimming in a whirlpool that continues to spiral downwards without an end in sight. Try and relax, guys.