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[Bugsie]

Thanks for keeping the spoilers out of the thread guys, it's much appreciated!

Can I ask though, generally and unspoilerish, and forgetting the original pessimism after the leak, are you feeling better about her role now you've had time to analyse things?

/goes back to lurking.

[Kyle]

I was thinking that same thing. Things weren't sounding too good, was it just overreaction to the initial leaks?

[JeffZero]

Miranda's role is literally the only thing aside from Jacob's (OK, and one quick question clarifying something with the VS that I heard in passing) that I've looked into; that's my absolute limit.

To answer your question from an admittedly gimped perspective, Buggirl, what I've read on Miranda doesn't sound bad at all. But on the other hand, I didn't think it sounded too bad to begin with. What I'm hoping for is that she'll have a good bit of presence throughout the story and not just at certain concentrated locations, but I can't confirm or deny whether that's the case. If there's newfound information that makes that aspect clearer, I'm not privy to it.

[Skullheart]

Well, her spoilers left me a bittersweet taste. More bitter than sweet...

[Bugsie]

Thanks Jeff, I'm hoping to see Miranda in a fairly prominent role in ME3 and not just relegated to a temp squadmate. /is optimistic

[MisterJB]

I am being cautiously optimist. There are definitively good things to say about the leaks.

ME3 Miranda seems to stay very true to her character while still allowing room for some growth. Miranda is still competent, driven, resourceful, selfless, protective, etc but, to give an example, had ME3 Miranda been in the SM, I do not believe she would have allowed the crew to return to the Normandy without an excort unless they had already lost too many figthing squadmates.
Another thing worth pointing out is that the way she behaves in ME3, seems to vary depending on a lot of factors from ME2, from loyalty to romance. There will be a lot of different Mirandas in ME3, I believe.

Her role is small but only in the sense that she'll be involved, at most, in 2/3 missions. However, what Miranda does will have outstanding consequences on the main plot and it is extremely impressive.

They managed to tie all loose plotlines.

Her dialogue with Shepard has also been praised. There's moments to reminisce on the past, moments to think about the future.

All in all, it could have been a lot worse. We wanted more, of course, but what we are being given is very positive.

Modifié par MisterJB, 11 novembre 2011 - 04:12 .

[enayasoul]

I am certainly looking forward to finding out how they react to each other. Miranda and Shepard.<3 And most curious about the moments of reminisce on the past and future. I hope she comes to value herself and not put herself down and to believe she can have whatever she ever wanted.

Modifié par enayasoul, 11 novembre 2011 - 04:23 .

[CrutchCricket]

Buggirl70 wrote...

Thanks for keeping the spoilers out of the thread guys, it's much appreciated!

Can I ask though, generally and unspoilerish, and forgetting the original pessimism after the leak, are you feeling better about her role now you've had time to analyse things?

/goes back to lurking.

Well as one of the few semi-regular contributers to this fine thread still in attendance for today*, I can estimate the general consensus as "cautionsly optimistic" with "cautiously" being more on the trigger-happy end than the "listen for the kettle" end of things.

Personally I believe I argued valiantly for not overracting and taking these leaks too seriously; though you might not know it from the last couple of pages. Nevertheless further spoilers discovered by the amazing Vertigo_1 eventually validated those of us who didn't think the end of days was nigh and now I think most would agree that worst-case scenario is off the table (though some people's ideals also grow dimmer).

In short: back to business as usual for the most part. Although I have the nagging suspicion the spoiler group is the "in" thing for the Miranda crowd right now...

*Edit: Until I was 'd by JB that is... my verbal wit is rendundant once again:whistle:

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 11 novembre 2011 - 04:26 .

[Bugsie]

Yes I should add 'cautiously' to that optimistic bit I put at the end. The over reaction was a bit of a shock to me, seeing as I only joined these boards after the release of ME2. The craziness of the DA2 forums should have been a warning to me though.

MisterJB, if the dialogue sounds good and regulars here have praised it, that's even better than I hoped for.

I'm never part of the in crowd, so I think I'll be fine!

Oh and thanks for the briefing guys!

Modifié par Buggirl70, 11 novembre 2011 - 04:38 .

[JeffZero]

Buggirl70 wrote...

Yes I should add 'cautiously' to that optimistic bit I put at the end. The over reaction was a bit of a shock to me, seeing as I only joined these boards after the release of ME2. The craziness of the DA2 forums should have been a warning to me though.

MisterJB, if the dialogue sounds good and regulars here have praised it, that's even better than I hoped for.

I'm never part of the in crowd, so I think I'll be fine!

I think we'll be fine. 

It really does look pretty darn good from what I've seen.

[cbutz]

MisterJB wrote...
Another thing worth pointing out is that the way she behaves in ME3, seems to vary depending on a lot of factors from ME2, from loyalty to romance. There will be a lot of different Mirandas in ME3, I believe.
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Is this determined from dialogue choices, such as choosing "your jealous" option over the other choices, or is it from major choices such as " Is she romanced?," Is she loyal?", " Did you blow up the base?", " did you have her kill Niket?" OR is the way she behaves different and spoilertafic.

[wright1978]

Skullheart wrote...

Well, her spoilers left me a bittersweet taste. More bitter than sweet...

I concur with Skullheart. Now i've just got to decide which save to import as i find it highly unlikely i'll want to do more than one run through of ME3.

[Ieldra]

Oh, oh....so widely differring opinions.

Here's mine: there's one big (and not totally unexpected) disappointment that's unlikely to change between the leaked and the final version, but I am still smiling. There is potential for awesomeness. I'll post a topic named "Miranda spoilers: The Verdict" later this day on the spoiler group, as a semi-spoilery account with no story details.

And I will play through ME3 with all my Shepards, most likely.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 11 novembre 2011 - 09:28 .

[Skullheart]

I will play with all my playthroughts too... too bad that there will be somthing missing.

[CrutchCricket]

Skullheart wrote...

I will play with all my playthroughts too... too bad that there will be somthing missing.

Because other Shepards have something you don't?

(A great big bushy beard!)

[Prudii Aden]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

I will play with all my playthroughts too... too bad that there will be somthing missing.

Because other Shepards have something you don't?

(A great big bushy beard!)

Watched Hot Fuzz a lot Cricket?

[jtav]

After the emotional rollercoaster of the past few days, I'm cautiously optimistic. There were several times I went "that's my girl" now that I have a fuller picture of the leaks. I have one major disappointment, but we were treated as well as could be expected. In TVTropes terms, it looks as if she gets a Crowning Moment of Awesome, Heartwarming, and a Tearjerker.

[CrutchCricket]

Prudii Aden wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

I will play with all my playthroughts too... too bad that there will be somthing missing.

Because other Shepards have something you don't?

(A great big bushy beard!)

Watched Hot Fuzz a lot Cricket?

Never gets old!

[Skullheart]

Just finished another SM, leaving a pic.

[enayasoul]

hahaha. I love that picture.  I can see Shepard saying: "Uh, I should go." haha!

Modifié par enayasoul, 11 novembre 2011 - 05:52 .

[MisterJB]

cbutz wrote...
Is this determined from dialogue choices, such as choosing "your jealous" option over the other choices, or is it from major choices such as " Is she romanced?," Is she loyal?", " Did you blow up the base?", " did you have her kill Niket?" OR is the way she behaves different and spoilertafic.

Only major choices, as far as we can tell.


http://browse.devian...effect#/d4ftbtv

Beautiful picture.

Modifié par MisterJB, 11 novembre 2011 - 06:25 .

[cbutz]

MisterJB wrote...


Only major choices, as far as we can tell.

Thanks! That does make sense that it is major plot decisions, as changes to persons behavior due to a single dialogue choice woudl get tedious for Bioware and drive the metagamer who usually ends up micromanageing their story after the 1st playthrough to go insane.
I must say that is impressive. To take those choices and have them alter a character's behavior, even if it is not  dratsic is rather cool. I assume that this is for all the characters too.