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[jtav]

Well.

I think our best bet is to push for one or two very specific things and keep pushing.

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

Well.

I think our best bet is to push for one or two very specific things and keep pushing.

Agreed.

To my mind, those things are...

At least one more mission where Miranda's connection to Cerberus is exploited. Ideally it would also provide closure to her relationship with TIM.

A full romance arc, with a romance scene.

Maximum presence and impact in the endgame.

Also, as you've said elsewhere, I really don't want to meet her in a cell. She should be active.

Modifié par flemm, 16 novembre 2011 - 03:18 .

[Shepherd10]

@flemm, I would actually go beyond your ideas and ask for a role for Miranda no smaller than the one Tali had in ME2. Some of you may think I'm crazy or asking too much from them, but I say it's only fair. After all she was one of the most used ME2 characters, the Cerberus plotline, how difficult it was to kill her, she was one of the few interesting characters from ME2, etc. Unless of course, BioWare was just screwing around with us. Which I hope they weren't.

[jtav]

I think we should keep our goals achievable. And I actually don't mind she isn't a squad member, just the sidelining of her Cerberus connection. She has this sidestory developing parallel to Shepard's that I like. I want her more involved with Cerberus, but not as Shep's stray dog. And you'd have to rewrite a lot to add her.

[alperez]

The funny thing and actually the one thing that gives me more hope regarding Miranda is that out of all the characters her role is the one most easily fleshed out into one the majority of us would be happy with.

As Flemm and others have rightly put it, probably the key aspect is the connection to cerberus and the confrontation or involvement in the mission with TIM, if this alone was adressed Miranda's role becomes more fitting both with her character and with the storyline itself in general.

Things like an ending romance scene or full close to the romance arc i actually do believe we'll get not just for her character but for all the me2 specific characters (barring the one or two were it involves changing too many specifics).

I doubt we'll get a change to the way we'll meet her though, simply because Shepard has to be the saviour its almost been ingrained in the series from the beginning and i could probably live with it, if the TIm/Cerberus thing was more fleshed out.

As it is miranda kinda gets a little more of a proper role than any of the me2 specific characters (with her conversations with Shepard) so for me i think if we really want to aim for the most achievable goal, it may be wise to almost emphasise the Cerberus/Tim part since imo fixing that changes the game almost completely.

[Dr. Doctor]

I'd like there to be:

-Banter between Miranda and the other squadmates
-A romance scene
-A role not restricted to the final parts of the game.

And now for something completely different.:

Shepard: (lobbing a grenade) What the hell is that!

Miranda: (slamming a Cerberus trooper into the ground) Atlas mech! Standard issue for Cerberus assault squads!

Shepard: If it's standard issue why didn't we have a giant robot? I'm pretty sure that would have come in handy!

Miranda: The Illusive Man wanted to cut back on luxuries!

Shepard: So leather seats, a giant fish tank, and a fully stocked bar are fine, but a giant killer robot is a luxury?

Miranda: (sighs) Look, if you don't go and break this one you can keep it, alright?

Shepard:  (reloading pistol) You're the best girlfriend ever!

Miranda: I try. (muttering under her breath) Like a bloody ten year-old sometimes.

[alxboss78]

Guys i believe we (like i stated before) that we should express (in a civilized manner) our disappointment at what we have surmised from the leaks so far, namely Miranda's limited screentime. I do not believe that adding new storylines is something that can be made now, however the basic thing that i believe we should be pushing for is more screentime for Miranda and more precisely, after we finish her mission, for her to be recruitable, to have a full romance arc, to be present in teh endgame and of course in the epilogue of the story. I do not believe these would be difficult to implement now even without a change in the game release date especially since Yvonne has made no recordings whatsoever up till now.

For example if a charachter's VA has already made recordings that would make the changes more difficult. For Miranda that is not the case and she must be one of the few who still have not had their recordings made. So changes in her role, dialogue and status can be made i believe more easily, without altering the dates of the game.

That is why we must push for the increase in screentime and recruitability starting from now...

[Ieldra]

"Invisible Spoiler text" test. Going to edit this post for comprehensive feedback as soon as I get the hang of it.

this should be ok

*work in progress. May be some time*

Modifié par Ieldra2, 16 novembre 2011 - 08:36 .

[JosephDucreux]

I don't know if I'm going to buy the game at all, what with all the crap in the spoilers. I honestly don't see why BW can't release something about Miranda. Not everything related to Miranda is a spoiler, and Bioware need to get that into their thick skulls.

Modifié par JosephDucreux, 16 novembre 2011 - 09:22 .

[flemm]

alxboss78 wrote...

Guys i believe we (like i stated before) that we should express (in a civilized manner) our disappointment at what we have surmised from the leaks so far, namely Miranda's limited screentime.

Well, I think we should, too. It can't hurt. Tweeting the devs is easy. We can't be too specific in that setting, but we can ask for more Miranda in ME3 and reference this thread as a place to find ideas (you can actually link the thread in your tweet).

Pushing for more screen time in general is good because it would allow the devs to add whatever they think works with the story overall. Even with the leak we can't be sure what is feasible.

Specific ideas are also good, because it gives them an idea of what we want.

JosephDucreux wrote...

Too bad the devs are only on Twitter. Otherwise I'd spam their facebooks already.

Well, there is a facebook page for Bioware, I think. Not suggesting you spam it, but there's nothing wrong with leaving a bit of feedback there.

Modifié par flemm, 16 novembre 2011 - 09:22 .

[JosephDucreux]

flemm wrote...

Well, there is a facebook page for Bioware, I think. Not suggesting you spam it, but there's nothing wrong with leaving a bit of feedback there.

Suggestions like 'you guys suck!'? 

[flemm]

JosephDucreux wrote...
Suggestions like 'you guys suck!'? 

Well, I was thinking a bit more... constructive than that

For example, if you are disappointed with Miranda's apparent role in the game, you could say that.

Modifié par flemm, 16 novembre 2011 - 09:47 .

[Prudii Aden]

Remember guys - they're probably getting a lot of "you suck!" messages, so some constructive criticism or positive suggestions will carry more weight.

[flemm]

Prudii Aden wrote...

Remember guys - they're probably getting a lot of "you suck!" messages, so some constructive criticism or positive suggestions will carry more weight.

Agreed. Basically, just saying we want more Miranda in ME3 is the place to start. We can reference the thread and put our more specific suggestions here.

[S.A.K]

Can someone tell me how many missions feature Miranda?

[flemm]

S.A.K wrote...

Can someone tell me how many missions feature Miranda?

One, apparently.

[S.A.K]

flemm wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

Can someone tell me how many missions feature Miranda?

One, apparently.

Just one? I hope theres few more in the final. Giving her only 1 mission is a bad joke.

[flemm]

S.A.K wrote...
Just one? I hope theres few more in the final. Giving her only 1 mission is a bad joke.

I can't really disagree. But yes, it appears there is only one.

[Quole]

JosephDucreux wrote...

flemm wrote...

Well, there is a facebook page for Bioware, I think. Not suggesting you spam it, but there's nothing wrong with leaving a bit of feedback there.

Suggestions like 'you guys suck!'? 

Perhaps all of you are jumping to conclusions? Insulting Bioware really isnt warranted. Perhaps AFTER ME3 comes out maybe.

Modifié par Quole, 16 novembre 2011 - 09:53 .

[wright1978]

Well i got off my ass and tweeted Casey about Miranda while i'm in a positive mood.

[flemm]

wright1978 wrote...

Well i got off my ass and tweeted Casey about Miranda while i'm in a positive mood.

Nicely done. Tweeting Mac Walters as well would not go amiss, while you're at it.

[JosephDucreux]

Quole wrote...
Perhaps AFTER ME3 comes out maybe.

I'm keeping that in mind.

[JosephDucreux]

Prudii Aden wrote...

Remember guys - they're probably getting a lot of "you suck!" messages, so some constructive criticism or positive suggestions will carry more weight.

I know, I'll just reserve that for AFTER ME3, should it prove to be unsatisfactory. But for now I'll hover around them.

[CptData]

jreezy wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

flemm wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

Can someone tell me how many missions feature Miranda?

One, apparently.

Just one? I hope theres few more in the final. Giving her only 1 mission is a bad joke.

What if it's real long?

Like Liara's LotSB mission?
Hmm, fine in my eyes, but I'm not a die-hard-Miri fan. Like her. And if I can get her for most of the game, I'll pick her over most of the other cast.