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[naledgeborn]

I've really stopped caring. All we get is a cameo that's not even mission critical since she can be dead for it. Nope, just gonna have to stick with enjoying killing Liara off.

[goofyomnivore]

Ieldra2 wrote...

About that action figure.... have you seen the release date? April/May? I hope that doesn't mean Miranda doesn't get a redesign for ME3.

The space spandex white jumpsuit with the mega-booty clevage has to get redesigned or replaced. I'm surprised it was allowed to ship in its current form for Mass Effect 2.

As for her face texture I doubt a redesign is in the cards. A touch up on the shadows/lighting on her face and teeth would be nice, but I doubt that is high on their priority list.

Modifié par strive, 03 décembre 2011 - 04:54 .

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Did something about the red eye. Hope it looks ok....

Does that answer your question?

Thanks. Five minutes of work in Irfanview, actually. Just copied the part of one eye into the other.

And thanks for the kind words. Fun fact: Miranda was originally going to be killed by Kai Leng. But we have enough stories of women being Stuffed into the Fridge so men can go on a rampage.

Ugh... you had really planned to leave Matt alone and Miranda dead? *shudder* What a downer ending. Glad you reconsidered.

@naledgeborn:
All the worries about Miranda's story arc notwithstanding, that's exaggerated. As for Miranda being mission critical, she's involved in a non-optional main plot mission. There's no way she could be critical there. And after all, if she lives she actually *is* critical, since the "badass normal" version of her replacement character doesn't exist in that timeline.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 03 décembre 2011 - 05:02 .

[flemm]

Ieldra2 wrote...

About that action figure.... have you seen the release date? April/May? I hope that doesn't mean Miranda doesn't get a redesign for ME3.

Don't think it really means much in that regard, since those are ME2 figures that I gather were originally supposed to be released some time ago. Don't know how much of a redesign we'll see but plot considerations alone would suggest somewhat of a change.

[TomY90]

flemm wrote...

Don't think it really means much in that regard, since those are ME2 figures that I gather were originally supposed to be released some time ago. Don't know how much of a redesign we'll see but plot considerations alone would suggest somewhat of a change.

I imagine it will be a slight change to the outfit probably have those cerberus logo's gone off her outfit.

I guess it will probably have the same design and that but probably wont lose that much of it, might change one or two items on her outfit or slight change of her hair but I will be surprised if its more than that.

[spirosz]

woops

Modifié par spiros9110, 03 décembre 2011 - 05:35 .

[spirosz]

naledgeborn wrote...

I've really stopped caring. All we get is a cameo that's not even mission critical since she can be dead for it. Nope, just gonna have to stick with enjoying killing Liara off.

I said this in the Jack thread because people are freaking out about the ME2's character role:

You should also be open to the idea of them developing the relationship further without even having a few missions concerning them.  The relationship shouldn't be restricted to just being developed over missions, per say. There is still room for them to spend time with each other and develop more, also for Miranda specfically, she should still be able to go down the path you guys want for her, aka her ideas for humanity developing further, regardless of her being with Shepard or the ship for that matter.  I don't know, there's so much negativity, it's making me sad! 

[Ticktank]

spiros9110 wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

I've really stopped caring. All we get is a cameo that's not even mission critical since she can be dead for it. Nope, just gonna have to stick with enjoying killing Liara off.

I said this in the Jack thread because people are freaking out about the ME2's character role:

You should also be open to the idea of them developing the
relationship further without even having a few missions concerning them.
The relationship shouldn't be restricted to just being developed over
missions, per say. There is still room for them to spend time with each
other and develop more, also for Miranda specfically, she should still be able to go down the path you guys want for her, aka her ideas for humanity developing further, regardless of her being with Shepard or the ship for that matter.  I don't know, there's so much negativity, it's making me sad! 

Stop hiding behind another account name Casey. Peddle your ideas through your own face.

[spirosz]

Ticktank wrote...

Stop hiding behind another account name Casey. Peddle your ideas through your own face.

Just came back from work and can't really tell if that's an insult, lmao. 

[Ieldra]

spiros9110 wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...
I've really stopped caring. All we get is a cameo that's not even mission critical since she can be dead for it. Nope, just gonna have to stick with enjoying killing Liara off.

I said this in the Jack thread because people are freaking out about the ME2's character role:

You should also be open to the idea of them developing the relationship further without even having a few missions concerning them.  The relationship shouldn't be restricted to just being developed over missions, per say. There is still room for them to spend time with each other and develop more, also for Miranda specfically, she should still be able to go down the path you guys want for her, aka her ideas for humanity developing further, regardless of her being with Shepard or the ship for that matter.  I don't know, there's so much negativity, it's making me sad! 

Most of us here aren't hung up on Miranda's non-squad status, actually, though the lack of Miranda/x banter is disappointing. We care about interaction, characterization, motivations and a role in the plot. The thing is, there are certain places/events where she really should be present considering, for instance, her (past) connections  with Cerberus. Also, the picture we've got shows her almost exclusively motivated by her personal issues, i.e. her sister, which is (in its exclusiveness) not the Miranda we know from ME2. We worry that Miranda will be turned into a generic, "safe" character with no personality traits than her love for her sister (and possibly Shepard). That's why we sometimes find it hard to keep up our optimism.

Basically what's keeping hopes up is that the leaked script is probably from July and accordingly incomplete, fixing what we'd call an inexcusable omission would be easy and that it really makes no sense to completely ignore a major character aspect like that. Details of our concerns here.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 03 décembre 2011 - 05:57 .

[spirosz]

Ieldra2 wrote...

We worry that Miranda will be turned into a generic, "safe" character with no personality traits than her love for her sister (and possibly Shepard). That's why we sometimes find it hard to keep up our optimism.

True, I understand, I just don't see how they can mess up such a good character.  I really hope they don't restrict her with that type of mindset, those two should obviously be in her mind, but from the way I view it, it should motivate her even further into developing her goals to the level she wants.

[naledgeborn]

I'm not gonna lie, I'm kind of hung up on it. So much so that the only people that're going to be on my squad from the Normandy is Kaidan/Ashley and Vega. And I'm doing everything in my power to get the Shadow Broker killed.

[Ieldra]

spiros9110 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
We worry that Miranda will be turned into a generic, "safe" character with no personality traits than her love for her sister (and possibly Shepard). That's why we sometimes find it hard to keep up our optimism.

True, I understand, I just don't see how they can mess up such a good character.  I really hope they don't restrict her with that type of mindset, those two should obviously be in her mind, but from the way I view it, it should motivate her even further into developing her goals to the level she wants.

Yes, it makes no sense to reduce her in such a way. That's what we keep telling ourselves and it does have an effect. On the other hand, they turned Liara into someone else between ME1 and ME2, and no matter that I personally prefer the new version, quite a few people were understandably unhappy with it.

Anyway, we've been over that countless times. All we can do is wait and see. But compared to a few months ago, when it was accounced that Cerberus would be a big antagonist in ME3 and we thought that would guarantee Miranda a big role, the appreciation has taken a serious hit.

(all the same, and Miranda's *possibly* satisfying role notwithstanding, the systematic sidelining of ME2-exclusive characters is something we did expect. What makes it annoying is specifically that Garrus and Tali don't get the same treatment. They have the same problem as everyone else in ME2 - they can die - and shouldn't get preferential treatment.)

Modifié par Ieldra2, 03 décembre 2011 - 06:24 .

[CrutchCricket]

naledgeborn wrote...

I'm not gonna lie, I'm kind of hung up on it. So much so that the only people that're going to be on my squad from the Normandy is Kaidan/Ashley and Vega. And I'm doing everything in my power to get the Shadow Broker killed.

Yeah because that'll turn back time and fix everything...<_<

[naledgeborn]

Not really, but it sure will do wonders for my peace of mind.

[CrutchCricket]

By accomplishing precisely dick?

[naledgeborn]

It's about the journey, not the destination. Mass Effect has taught me that.

[CrutchCricket]

Ok by journeying to accomplish precisely dick?

[naledgeborn]

Yep.

[CrutchCricket]

<_<

[Ieldra]

naledgeborn wrote...
It's about the journey, not the destination. Mass Effect has taught me that.

You mean it's the act of getting Liara killed that is satisfying, not the result?

Nah, I'm too much of a roleplayer for that. If she dies, it will be for a plot-related reason and not to satisfy my petty jealousy. I'll be content with avoiding Garrus and Tali as much as I can (along with our new blonde bombshell) and being rude to Liara for usurping Miranda's office.

Heh...I wish I could pretend Miranda still has bugs in her office and backdoors on her computer which remain undetected by the Shadow Broker. Probably a little too much to expect though.

[naledgeborn]

Look cross all you want Crutch. Choice and consequence in an IP where it's the defining selling point doesn't mean dick. 

Rachni alive? You get to save her again 2 games later.
Rachni dead? It's okay!! we ass-pulled another queen into existence!!

Base kept? Cerberus is evil and will use it's tech against you!!!
Base Destroyed? It's okay!! Evil Cerberus recovered it's pieces and will use it against you!!

Shall I keep going? At least killing a character I have antipathy towards is completely in my control. Like I said all roads lead to the same destination, might aswell make my road enjoyable to me.

[Ieldra]

Modifié par Ieldra2, 03 décembre 2011 - 07:24 .

[CrutchCricket]

Remind me never to put anything in your control then... if it even is about control. I bet if they killed off Liara by default you'd be just as happy. And tell me, have you never had a choice invalidated or rendered moot? Ever? And perhaps even more to the point did that subsequent invalidation in any way decrease whatever hardship or enjoyment you initially experienced when you made that choice?

"It's not the destination it's the journey" right? What happened to that? Does ME3 really change the journey you took in ME1 and 2?

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 03 décembre 2011 - 07:28 .

[naledgeborn]

You see you're trying to compare real life experiences to a 60$ simulated one. If I'm paying, might as well do as I please within the realm of possibility and get irritable when my prior decisions are invalidated. That's not me saying the "customer is always right", but if the customer wants to say he/she is unsatisfied or if the voter is pissed off at the economy then the customer, the voter, the consumer, whatever should have the right to voice their opinion.