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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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#2251
Melra

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Fighting and telling someone to keep their hands off isn't really the same. Sure I'd tell someone to keep their distance from someone who I'd consider to be my girl, but if there's need to fight then it's just too much. If the person who's being fought over doesn't have the guts or doesn't make a choice, then he/she isn't worth being fought over.

In ME's case it's just, that Shepard would pretty much allow them to fight over him and therefore he'd need to show some level of interest for both of them. I don't think that's Miranda's cupt of tea. She'd be hurt sure, she'd probably not show it, but in the end she could get pretty much any other man, that she'd ever want.

She doesn't need Shepard.


Edit: More screenies are needed. :whistle:
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Modifié par Melrache, 25 juin 2011 - 02:41 .


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Hey! She doesn't look like death warmed over. How'd you do that?

All this discussion makes me glad I have my own AU where the relationship is decidedly long term by ME2. Matt would never cheat on her.

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Yeah, I am safe in that regard as well.

My game looks great, because of Yannkee. Our games should look pretty much the same.

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jtav wrote...
All this discussion makes me glad I have my own AU where the relationship is decidedly long term by ME2. Matt would never cheat on her.

Yep, decidedly long-term, too for Cyrus Shepard. No previous romance. Not AU though, just unexpected re-encounters. He met Miranda 16 years ago when they were both in disguise and under cover. They even had sex. He often dreamed of her, but the image blurred over the years and when he met her again, he didn't recognize her until the engine room. Just imagine the silly smile he's wearing when nobody is looking these days. But only then. It won't do letting the others think he's gone soft.

BTW, will there be another chapter about Matt and Miranda soon?

@Melrache:
Was there anything specific you did to your graphics settings? When I tried Yannkee's settings a few months ago, it didn't look so good, but now I have a new machine and I'd like to give it another try.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 25 juin 2011 - 04:02 .


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Yep, for my canon Shep, Miranda is the only one he wants. So long as both survive ME3, they'll stay together.

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My canon Shepard didn't romance anyone in ME1 as well... he wasn't interested till Miri came along so, no problems on that end.

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Melrache wrote...

Fighting and telling someone to keep their hands off isn't really the same. Sure I'd tell someone to keep their distance from someone who I'd consider to be my girl, but if there's need to fight then it's just too much. If the person who's being fought over doesn't have the guts or doesn't make a choice, then he/she isn't worth being fought over.

In ME's case it's just, that Shepard would pretty much allow them to fight over him and therefore he'd need to show some level of interest for both of them. I don't think that's Miranda's cupt of tea. She'd be hurt sure, she'd probably not show it, but in the end she could get pretty much any other man, that she'd ever want.

She doesn't need Shepard.


What I am hoping for is a scene that no matter who Shepard picks, he & the player feel like a putz. If either woman looks hurt, there are tears (not outright bawling but tears of pain) and heartbreak ... never mind Shepard, I'll feel like a heel. And that is what we (Shepard & I) should feel like.

Will there be goonba's who will giggle like 12-year-olds and enjoy it (ego boost)? Probably, but I don't think about those players. I know that there are some of us who are really engaged in the stories that we are crafting, love the characters and want that emotional POW! To me this triangle is worse than Virmire because Shepard can't blame this on Saren or the reapers. This is something that he himself created. Even though he is a good guy, he should not be able to just pick one, shake the others hand and whistle off in the sunset. Each choice should carry a negative consequence ... any adult would understand that. 
 
I can see both Miranda and Ash saying nasty things about each other, but not when in the same room and not to each other. Let's hope that Bioware thinks the same or if they do decide to have a showdown that it is done so well that I retract my "no showdown" wish. 

Can Miranda have her pick? Absolutely. But having those choices does nothing when you love someone. It's like when your dog dies that you loved and someone says "here's a puppy, all better ... I mean, come on why cry over that dog when there are so many others you can have?" Posted Image What?  

In my story she really loves Shepard. If he leaves her, it's going to hurt and I really don't know how she would act or how he will act. I just hope that he shows some frackin' emotion during their (private) talk .. some remorse & regret. No matter which woman gets the "dear Jane" speech ... if he delivers it in monotone and then says "I have to go" ... I'll kill the sum****!

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Ieldra2 wrote...

berserkerblob wrote...
But yes, actually you're right. In the end Miranda is still a human beeing with human feelings.
Of course she isn't without any struggle with herself because she grew up with the feeling that she is loved and respected only for what she is and do instead of being loved as daughter for who she is and with that imprinting there is just little space for unconditioned trust against strangers to her.
Yes there also hurt feelings, naturally there are, because in fact her supposed perfection essentially limits her personal choices as she is infertile by birth. The role she was put into means basically for her that she never be able to develop her own personal life as she liked to and as every regular woman could do.
In this case her origin may be similar to Grunt's one, but in contrast to him, she was taken one of the fundamental abilities of her gender. How confident would be the male commander shepard if his Pe**s was removed after his birth. 
And of course, as she might feel not beeing a complete woman to her love interest, she lacks confidence in intimate and personal moments. But despite all disadvantages of beeing some sort of clone, she has a strong character as she doesn't let anybody bring her down and decides in her own behalf.
Indeed I think she would come over an answered love, because she always tries to stay focussed on her job and beyond that that would only reinforce her hurt feelings from her childhood when her natural need for love was rejected.

Hmm....I must admit you've lost me here. What are you talking about?

Regarding her infertility: that's not something that will necessarily undermine her self-esteem. I think she'd just feel it as an insult, either by her father if it's intentional, or by fate. Also we have already established that it is extremely unlikely that there is no way around it. Reproductive technology hasn't spoken its last word about it. Your comparison also falls flat since she can still enjoy sex. And any Shepard who dares imply she's not a complete woman because of her infertility plainly doesn't deserve her.

Her genetic improvements do not limit her choices. In fact, they expand them. She can do many more things than other people at a similar age. Also her genetic improvements are not necessarily linked to her infertility.

The reason why she lacks confidence in emotional matters is that she did not get the love and appreciation a child needs from her father. That's all. her genetic engineering has nothing to do with it. The emotional deprivation she experienced makes her unable to accept her gifts as her own and take credit for her achievements on an emotional level. Once she's dealt with the ghost of her father that's still sitting in her mind, the fact she's genetically improved will cease to bother her.

 After all that is only your reading of her.
I don't think that it's just random that she as a genetically modified organic is fertile, because if you look at genentically modified plants, you'll see a lot of mutant plants that are incapable to reproduce.
And again, my interpretion of her infertility is that she cannot live the life she wants because she cannot have a child by regular means. Since her sister proves that cloning apparently works out, there might be ways for her to get a child.
But  I think I could write anything and there still would be something to complain about and thus I don't think that a further discussion wouldn't end up in a consensus.

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@Ieldra2 Nope, just what he gave me.

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Anyway.. Fortunately I won't be having any problems in ME3 with the other LIs. I just hope she gets big enough role, that I have a reason to buy the game. It's not the end for my Shepard's story, if she's not presented well enough in it.

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Hello fellow Miri fans Good and Evil.

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Hello fellow Miri fans Good and Evil.

Hello!

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lol emphasis on good and evil :P

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Why save the Galaxy if Miri is not with me?

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Because Miri lives in said Galaxy?
Tough I'm pretty sure she won't be on Thessia...Posted ImagePosted Image

Modifié par MisterJB, 25 juin 2011 - 05:04 .


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Damn the Alliance. :pinched:

I don't care if the Normandy is an Alliance Star-Ship again. Miri resigned from Cerberus.

I'm Commander Shepard for crying out loud. I am entitled to have MY ONE AND ONLY LI in Mass Effect aboard MY Ship.<3<3<3<3

It's either Miri is with me....or bye bye Earth.:devil:

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 25 juin 2011 - 05:06 .


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MisterJB wrote...

Because Miri lives in said Galaxy?
Tough I'm pretty sure she won't be on Thessia...Posted ImagePosted Image


Explain the joke? I'm a bit slow today.

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No joke, really. I just don't like Asari very much.
I'll probrably use this opportunity to trim down their numbers a little bit.

Modifié par MisterJB, 25 juin 2011 - 05:47 .


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The numbers of what?

#2269
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Ehm.. Asari population.

#2270
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^ I STILL adore that Yvonne Avatar, Mel.<3<3<3<3^_^

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 25 juin 2011 - 05:47 .


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*goes back to writing story where Miranda is passionately in love with an asari* She's in a love triangle with Shepard there too.

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MisterJB wrote...
No joke, really. I just don't like Asari very much.
I'll probrably use this opportunity to trim down their numbers a little bit.

Since my dislike of the asari is limited to the meta-perspective (omnisexual blue-skinned space babes, yeah), I probably won't do that, but I understand the sentiment.

And anyway, Miranda likes the asari. :lol:

#2273
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I don't personally mind the asari, I just don't find them attractive. Nuu, nuu. My new Vanguard Shepard and Miri really work well together. It's so much more fun to play than as a Soldier, that 90% of my playthroughs have been.

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Miranda appreciates the asari architecture and culture but she also acknowledges that asari have a tendency to be arrogant.
Just like Samara calls humans "individualists". That doesn't make either of them xenophobe.

Modifié par MisterJB, 25 juin 2011 - 06:14 .


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Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 25 juin 2011 - 06:32 .