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"I'll always want you in my life." Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3


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Mediciine

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Err, I don't have to ;) Look at Ashley. Now look at Vega. And their pages in Collectors Edition that are roaming through the forum.
Buut, they're in perma - so we'll see Miranda only in official uniform - they won't waste resources for both casual and official outfit for temporary companions. 

The only real problem I have with her suit is the dem heels :P 
And yes, it's a fanservice. What's there to wonder about?

Modifié par Mediciine, 18 décembre 2011 - 02:01 .


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feliciano2040

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Mediciine wrote...

Err, I don't have to ;) Look at Ashley. Now look at Vega. And their pages in Collectors Edition that are roaming through the forum.


Yeah but........................that's not proof at all.

Mediciine wrote... 

And yes, it's a fanservice. What's there to wonder about?


Not much ! But it's the only outfit that always leaves me flabbergasted, you spend so much time looking for the heaviest, best armors in ME 1, only to have some random chick going to battle in a soft, cushiony jumpsuit and killing everyone in the room !

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Wait for the March, if you want a solid proof. I think it's obvious if we see:
a) In leaked beta demo: Vega in casual outfit. Same with Ashely (that's at least what they're telling us) 
c) in VGA video, Vega could be spotted in the armor.
Also there are preview pages from Collector's Edition book, where they're both presented in casual clothes and in the armor.

Therefore we can safely assume, that permanent companions will change their outfit to casual, when in Normady, like in ME1, as opposed to ME2, where they wear the same damm thing, whatever they were calibrating, or shooting.

Modifié par Mediciine, 18 décembre 2011 - 02:30 .


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 Not much ! But it's the only outfit that always leaves me flabbergasted, you spend so much time looking for the heaviest, best armors in ME 1, only to have some random chick going to battle in a soft, cushiony jumpsuit and killing everyone in the room !

If only it would end there :unsure: You can argue, that Miranda is a biotic, and she's so awesome, she doesn't need
 more protection. 
Then you see Ashley. I just hope her armor will look more solid (and no heels, no heels, no heels. It isn't sexy, when you want someone to move fast, and handle a missile launcher).

Modifié par Mediciine, 18 décembre 2011 - 02:42 .


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Well biotics used lighter armour in ME1, presumable because they can erect barriers. Personally I loath the aap, it's a heavy duty soldiers armour, a complete 180 from Miranda's character as presented.

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I was a little bored, so I did a crappy wallpaper..

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feliciano2040 wrote...
Also, have any of you had trouble with Miranda's main suit ? You can't quite say it's fanboy pandering, yet somehow it is, and it isn't, I've always been really confused, I guess the "leggings" are what always makes me wonder.

And the ass-shots as well :lol:

Trouble? You could say that. I've modded that game so that she can wear her loyalty outfit from the start. From Freedom's Progress, that is, because the prologue Miranda and the engine room Miranda use a different model. Everything to minimize her screen time in that....thing.

And yes....no high heels. x1000.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 18 décembre 2011 - 08:16 .


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Well, I replayed the love scene for reasons I'm now convinced are irrelevant. Absent its context, it's not half bad. Dry humping is still silly though.

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jtav wrote...
Well, I replayed the love scene for reasons I'm now convinced are irrelevant. Absent its context, it's not half bad. Dry humping is still silly though.

Yes. In spite of its problems, the scene always makes me smile. Why did you replay it, if I may ask?

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jtav wrote...

Well, I replayed the love scene for reasons I'm now convinced are irrelevant. Absent its context, it's not half bad. Dry humping is still silly though.


Well, I always thought the dry humping was quite brief until they get to the real deed.

Or does it last too long :blink: ?

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feliciano2040 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Well, I replayed the love scene for reasons I'm now convinced are irrelevant. Absent its context, it's not half bad. Dry humping is still silly though.


Well, I always thought the dry humping was quite brief until they get to the real deed.

Or does it last too long :blink: ?


While I don't have nearly as many problems with the scene as some people do, It could have definitively been better.
First problem, the location. It's easily justifiable but if the fans actually have to look for justifications, then there's something wrong with it.
If I were making the game, I'd have the scene happen in Miranda's quarters just to be different from the others. By the end of the scene, that is before things got too steamy, we would realize we were watching from one of the cameras Cerberus installed on the Normandy. Miranda taps a few buttons on her omnitool and we "go to black".

Or, if they felt risky, they could try to recapture ME1's artistry.
The dry humping doesn't trouble me because it's implied that it was merely foreplay. Definitively not nearly as bad as DA:O's scenes were the characters were actually having quite real sex with their underwear still on.
ME2 scenes made me smile, DA:O scenes just made me cringe and pray for the game to put my Warden out of his misery.

Still, ME1 scenes were superior  in one aspect. They were very artistic and I wish Bioware had recaptured that in ME2. It would have been quite easy. We don't need The Witcher 2 scenes.

Just make sure to start with this moment because it's easily the best part of the romance scene.

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Modifié par MisterJB, 18 décembre 2011 - 11:15 .


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ME1 scenes also did a better job capturing the "we're all gonna die, but I love you anyway" feel.

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The thing with all of the love scenes is that all I can think of is how EDI sees everything aboard the Normandy:

EDI: Operative Lawson might I ask a question?

Miranda: Go ahead EDI.

EDI: Why the engine room?

Miranda: How did you..I thought that your systems couldn't see through the drive core's EM emissions?

EDI: I fixed that problem weeks ago. While I do enjoy the sight of humans on their knees such conduct is hardly proper for the engine room.

Miranda: What?!

EDI: That was a joke.

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I never knew until I first came to these boards that the Engine Room choice was such an issue to some people.

Sure, I also wondered about the choice of *clears throat* "place of expression", but it's not really something that "killed the romance" for me, and neither was it a reason to get the urge to burn down Bioware HQ, considering the way some folk reacted :lol: !

I thought the romances in ME 2 were very well done, sure, we could've gotten a few more scenes per romance, we could've gotten at least one more conversation, Tali could've been a little less fanboy pleasing, and Miranda could have gotten more serious instead of going full-emo on us on one of her last conversations, even though I can't help but get all warm and fuzzy about that hug :wub: !

But Jack's romance ? Absolute brilliance, it bothers me that there's a lot of people that can't see how great it is, and why ?

"Ew ! She's bald !"

Modifié par feliciano2040, 19 décembre 2011 - 12:13 .


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:crying:oh crap the master thief can go invisible. :ph34r:no wonder she knew what happened down in the engine room:whistle:.
and what about the veteran he has cammeras every where :blink:

:police:Sorry for my spelling and any news on miranda :innocent:<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

 

Modifié par Draco Knight 77, 19 décembre 2011 - 12:27 .


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More like Jack's romance brings up consent issues that bother me. Tali, well, I've been there in more ways than one, and it cuts to deep for me to actually enjoy it. Miranda wins more or less by default.

Speaking of Tali, I need some feedback. Does this sound too much like her, keeping in mind the condition I've given Miranda?

Frank Collier was the nearest thing I had to a father. He was the one who had recruited me into Cerberus after I fled my father and who had served as my de facto personal physician as I attempted to find a way to manage my condition. He was, at the moment, also my boss. Like me, he came from a wealthy Earth family and had maintained a taste for the finer things in life. We even looked something alike: the same dark hair, pale skin, and strong jaw. When I was a child, I used to dream that everything my father told me about my origins was a lie, and someday my true family would come for me. A juvenile fantasy, but I couldn't help but remember it every time I saw Frank.

He walked to sideboard and lifted a bottle of wine. "Do you mind?"

I took a seat. "No."

It was an old, unvarying ritual, but I appreciated that he always asked if he could indulge in my presence. Swirling red liquid filled the glass, and a familiar determination filled me. This was what I was fighting for. If the sight of Dr. Shepard filled me with rage or her nephew disconcerted me, I only had to remember that a simple drink was one of the things denied me by that damnable surgery.

"I forwarded your first readings to the Illusive Man. He's very impressed. The boy could be what we’re looking for. We've sent the results to Teltin. See if the rest of the kids can get some use out of it."

“I hope they can.” The Teltin Institute was one of our great success stories. BAaT had had limited success in creating powerful, useful biotics, but we were still nowhere near the asari, or even the salarians. Teltin was our chance to remedy that. Many children had been cast out by their families after manifesting biotic ability. We took them in, and provided cutting-edge training that would make them useful to humanity. "Are we sending Shepard there after all?"

"Oh, no.” Frank took a sip. "From what you've told me, Mr. Shepard may suffer from posttraumatic stress disorder. Given his state of mind and power level, I'd like his training to be as low key as possible. Besides, I understand you’re building quite the rapport with him. Shame for that to go to waste."

"I'm not sure I'd call it a rapport.” I wasn't sure what I would call it. I’d been prepared for a teenaged boy who drooled over me like a piece of meat, but I'd gotten a troubled young man who saw too much when he looked at me. Lust was there, certainly, but it was mixed with fascination, awe, and curiosity. I’d expected to flirt my way into his good graces. But I knew the day he told me he’d drawn me that that wouldn’t work. He’d wanted to know his subject. So, I had offered a few scraps of knowledge in exchange for his continuing cooperation. It was a delicate tightrope to walk. I had to give him enough information to satisfy him, but not so much that he could use it against me. We were, as Mr. Shepard himself had said, not friends.

His computer beeped and Frank flushed scarlet. “Excuse me.” He entered a few rapid-fire keystrokes. "Sorry about that. I just had to confirm an appointment."

I raised an eyebrow. "By 'appointment' you mean making arrangements for your latest one night stand."

"Clever girl.” He thought for moment. "Too clever by half. If it wasn't for extranet sites, I think every Cerberus agent would be celibate." He realized what he’d said, and winced. "I apologize for that. I know certain things are more… difficult."

I shrugged. Some things were more difficult, sex among them. I wasn't celibate—one of the first things I'd done after joining Cerberus was rid myself of my unwanted virginity—but the pain was a complication. It meant long chats about expectations, what I could and couldn't do, what positions were comfortable, and various other subjects that required trust and vulnerability on my part and understanding on my partner’s. I wondered what it was like for him just to show up in an apartment, not having to give so much as his real name, and never risk anything truly important.

No, answering a few of Mr. Shepard’s questions was not too high a price to pay for success.


As is probably painfully obvious, I'm really looking forward to writing sex here.

Modifié par jtav, 19 décembre 2011 - 12:42 .


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I like Jack's romance scene, its sweet and heartwarming. The start of the engine room scene is really good, but after the hug its all down hill from there.

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I just don't understand how the line "I've cleared the engine room" sounded good to the writers. Cleared it of who? Tali? What if you didn't recruit Tali? etc. I get the reasons for the location, I just think the execution around it was lackluster.

I still don't know what I like better for my Shepard who romanced her. The making her wait bit is really good. However I don't think my Shepard would be able to do that given the circumstances of an impending Suicide Mission.

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jtav wrote...

More like Jack's romance brings up consent issues that bother me.


What issue :o ?

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The idea that Jack might not be in the right mental state to be starting a relationship with Shepard. Granted, I go off of the idea that it was just Jack and Shepard holding eachother in the love scene, but there are other interpretations of what happened. To each their own.


@jtav

I really like the fact that you've given Miranda a mentor. I always entertained the idea that there was a Cerberus Agent in her past that showed her the proverbial ropes.

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Dr. Doctor wrote...

The idea that Jack might not be in the right mental state to be starting a relationship with Shepard.


Most likely she's not :lol: !

But that's for her to decide wether she wants to be involved with someone or not.

Modifié par feliciano2040, 19 décembre 2011 - 01:29 .


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MisterJB wrote...

If I were making the game, I'd have the scene happen in Miranda's quarters just to be different from the others.


That would have been my preference as well. That said, there are some moments of the scene I really like, including especially the one in your gif.

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Yeah I figured Miranda could get all the "surveillance bugs" out of her room, and ask EDI to shut her cameras down if privacy was a concern. I would of preferred the romance happening in her room as well. Add some dialogue or an interrupt, keep the hug if possible, and ditch the on the ground dry humping would be ideal for me.

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Is it me or does it look like Miranda is happily smiling? Giggling? Bashful? a bit when Shepard comes up behind her. I love that part the most. And when their cheeks rub against each other. Awww!

I have no problem with the scene at all. The picking up and hitting the wall is kind of weird but with her on top, I am sure Shepard is loving the view. I love the look she is giving him as she pulls her outfit down.

I just think the scene went way to fast. :lol:

Modifié par enayasoul, 19 décembre 2011 - 01:45 .


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strive wrote...

Yeah I figured Miranda could get all the "surveillance bugs" out of her room, and ask EDI to shut her cameras down if privacy was a concern. I would of preferred the romance happening in her room as well. Add some dialogue or an interrupt, keep the hug if possible, and ditch the on the ground dry humping would be ideal for me.


I know!  I can see Miranda being the one "in control"  with getting what she wants out of sex.  Shepard would have to control his own desires as to not go so fast.  hah!  I could see that as a competition of sorts. :D