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[naledgeborn]

@ nitefyre

No doubt homie. It's amazing what slips under the radar now a days. Music, movies, books of great quality get churned out everyday. The over-saturation of crap in the entertainment industry can leave people starved for some real ****.


OT: Cerberus' depiction as a comic book villain should be considered a compliment. There more like Saturday morning cartoon villains. 

If TIM were this
http://t0.gstatic.co...nhn-sN37hqEnZ_g
I'd still be exited for ME3.

Unfortunately he's become this
http://t2.gstatic.co...ZgbJAqXIlIIQeB 

Modifié par naledgeborn, 06 janvier 2012 - 08:23 .

[SNascimento]

flemm wrote...

It has a bit of the "super spy" vibe that I'd actually like to see more of.

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Yeah, it's a side of her that we know it's there but we don't see much.

[flemm]

Originally I wasn't sure what that was supposed to be an image of... But now I'm thinking it might be Miranda prior to escaping from her father. I guess that's why it's like a combination of lab, gym and holding cell.

Modifié par flemm, 06 janvier 2012 - 08:25 .

[flemm]

*derp*

Modifié par flemm, 06 janvier 2012 - 08:24 .

[SNascimento]

MisterJB wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Remember kids:

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I had to quote this because of the amoamount of truth is those. 

[SNascimento]

flemm wrote...

Originally I wasn't sure what that was supposed to be an image of... But now I'm thinking it might be Miranda prior to escaping from her father. I guess that's why it's like a combination of lab, gym and holding cell.

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That makes sense... she should be what, around 15? 

[flemm]

SNascimento wrote...

That makes sense... she should be what, around 15? 

I honestly can't remember the age, I think the Miranda lore experts put the age of her escape as somewhere in her late teens.

Modifié par flemm, 06 janvier 2012 - 08:28 .

[MisterJB]

flemm wrote...

Originally I wasn't sure what that was supposed to be an image of... But now I'm thinking it might be Miranda prior to escaping from her father. I guess that's why it's like a combination of lab, gym and holding cell.

The glass has the Cerberus symbol on it.

[ThomGau]

Yeah she was 15~16 or so when she escaped from her father I believe .
I've been wondering something about Miranda's youth . How do you think she found out the truth about her origins, her genetic tailoring and watnot ? She is smart enought to sneak in her father's office, or computer and discover informations, how and why she was " conceived " .

Modifié par ThomGau, 06 janvier 2012 - 08:34 .

[flemm]

MisterJB wrote...

The glass has the Cerberus symbol on it.

That's true, but it's concept art. The whole backstory may have been in the works at the time. It would be interesting to know, actually. Perhaps she was originally supposed to have been created by Cerberus?

Modifié par flemm, 06 janvier 2012 - 08:32 .

[SNascimento]

MisterJB wrote...

flemm wrote...

Originally I wasn't sure what that was supposed to be an image of... But now I'm thinking it might be Miranda prior to escaping from her father. I guess that's why it's like a combination of lab, gym and holding cell.

The glass has the Cerberus symbol on it.

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Yeah, just saw it. 

[CrutchCricket]

naledgeborn wrote...
OT: Cerberus' depiction as a comic book villain should be considered a compliment.

lol I gotta agree with this. Comic book villains kick ass. Know who else is a comic book villain?
This guy:

[SNascimento]

ThomGau wrote...

Yeah she was 15~16 or so when she escaped from her father I believe .
I've been wondering something about Miranda's youth . How do you think she found out the truth about her origins, her genetic tailoring and watnot ?

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Probably at a young age, no more than 7. Probably her own father told her, the sooner she start becoming that he wanted the better.

Modifié par SNascimento, 06 janvier 2012 - 08:33 .

[MisterJB]

ThomGau wrote...

Yeah she was 15~16 or so when she escaped from her father I believe .
I've been wondering something about Miranda's youth . How do you think she found out the truth about her origins, her genetic tailoring and watnot ?

If I had to guess, I'd say her father had her understand the complicate procedure by which she was created and how that made her his property and different from other humans before she could walk on her own.

[nitefyre410]

naledgeborn wrote...

@ nitefyre

No doubt homie. It's amazing what slips under the radar now a days. Music, movies, books of great quality get churned out everyday. The over-saturation of crap in the entertainment industry can leave people starved for some real ****.


OT: Cerberus' depiction as a comic book villain should be considered a compliment. There more like Saturday morning cartoon villains. 

If TIM were this
http://t0.gstatic.co...nhn-sN37hqEnZ_g
I'd still be exited for ME3.

Unfortunately he's become this
http://t2.gstatic.co...ZgbJAqXIlIIQeB 

BAH  TIM only wishes he could even stand in the  shadow of the awesome that is Dr.Doom... the man world conquered the world  twice cured cancer and gave it back ... becasue he was bored.  

Oh yeah and played for   Strange and Mephisto (Marvels analoge of the Devil)   for complete fools.

[MisterJB]

CrutchCricket wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...
OT: Cerberus' depiction as a comic book villain should be considered a compliment.

lol I gotta agree with this. Comic book villains kick ass. Know who else is a comic book villain?
This guy:
snip

I'm partial towards:


He is someone I can sympatize with, I can see his side of the story, I see reason in his argument.
Galactus is, quite literally, a GOD. Nothing is more boring.

[nitefyre410]

CrutchCricket wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...
OT: Cerberus' depiction as a comic book villain should be considered a compliment.

lol I gotta agree with this. Comic book villains kick ass. Know who else is a comic book villain?
This guy:
*snip*

 

Galactus  just is ... when he getting chow down  one your home planet for mid day snack yeah  is villian but I have just finish reading  the Thanos Imperative  arc and he along with the other  comsic embodiments played the good guys. 


@JB   Yes Magento was always a favoriate of mine as well with  Dr.Doom and  Loki   





Because  I have yet to see some work out a deal  and play both the Asgardain  Rule of the Underworld Hel and  Mephisto  againist each  other.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 06 janvier 2012 - 08:47 .

[ThomGau]

I edited my last message but in case you didn't see .
Either her father told her about how and why she was created or she could have sneaked in his office and found out why and how she was created, he must have some dossier about his " investments " .I think she is smart enought to do so .
I like both of these, one highlights how megalomaniac her father is and an other one highlights her super-spy skills awakening .

Modifié par ThomGau, 06 janvier 2012 - 08:43 .

[CrutchCricket]

MisterJB wrote...
Galactus is, quite literally, a GOD. Nothing is more boring.

Hmm. We'll just disagree on this one. The origins, the power... he doesn't really work as a protagonist but Galactus is far from boring. Just trying to stretch your mind to imagine what you could do, what you could experience with something like the Power Cosmic...
I'm also partial to:

[flemm]

MisterJB wrote...
He is someone I can sympatize with, I can see his side of the story, I see reason in his argument.
Galactus is, quite literally, a GOD. Nothing is more boring.

I actually think this whole discussion of different types of villains is pretty interesting stuff for a variety of reasons.

Dr. Doom and Magneto make for a good comparison. Dr. Doom is the protypical comic book villain. He just wants to dominate and control... everything. The world, basically, and, failing that, his corner of it. (Even his name lol... Dr. Doom.)

That's not bad, but it's a certain type of villain.

Then there's Magneto, who is also a comic book villain, but from a different era of comics. It's not even clear that he's a villain.

In Secret Wars, the Beyonder thought he was a good guy

He's more complex. His motives are more fleshed out. In certain respects, he is the good guy. His differences with his main rival, Xavier, are largely philosophical. You can't really say that about Doom and Reed Richards.

Basically, with the mustache-twirling thing, what people are saying is that TIM should be more like Magneto, and less like Dr. Doom.

Modifié par flemm, 06 janvier 2012 - 08:45 .

[jtav]

Though Doom has his perverse honor and lines he won't cross. Better example is probably the Red Skull.

Speaking of comics, anybody else get Norman Osborn vibes from Mr. Lawson?

Modifié par jtav, 06 janvier 2012 - 08:46 .

[flemm]

jtav wrote...

Though Doom has his perverse honor and lines he won't cross. Better example is probably the Red Skull.

Possibly, yeah, though I think Dr. Doom still basically works, as far as the simplicity of his motives.

[CrutchCricket]

nitefyre410 wrote...
Galactus  just is ... when he getting chow down  one your home planet for mid day snack yeah  is villian but I have just finish reading  the Thanos Imperative  arc and he along with the other  comsic embodiments played the good guys.

True, he's supposed to be a balacing force in the Marvel universe. He's one of the few characters that says "I'm beyond good and evil" and I just have to agree wholeheardtedly. Not that I place much stock in such notions to begin with but...
Interesting sidenote: The Ultimate version of Galactus, Gah Lak Tus is a fleet of giant robots, vaguely cephelopodian in appearance that drains planets of resources and considers organic life abhorent. Sound familiar? (it looks more like Matrix squiddies though)

[nitefyre410]

flemm wrote...

MisterJB wrote...
He is someone I can sympatize with, I can see his side of the story, I see reason in his argument.
Galactus is, quite literally, a GOD. Nothing is more boring.

I actually think this whole discussion of different types of villains is pretty interesting stuff for a variety of reasons.

Dr. Doom and Magneto make for a good comparison. Dr. Doom is the protypical comic book villain. He just wants to dominate and control... everything. The world, basically, and, failing that, his corner of it. (Even his name lol... Dr. Doom.)

That's not bad, but it's a certain type of villain.

Then there's Magneto, who is also a comic book villain, but from a different era of comics. It's not even clear that he's a villain.

In Secret Wars, the Beyonder thought he was a good guy

He's more complex. His motives are more fleshed out. In certain respects, he is the good guy. His differences with his main rival, Xavier, are largely philosophical. You can't really say that about Doom and Reed Richards.

Basically, with the mustache-twirling thing, what people are saying is that TIM should be more like Magneto, and less like Dr. Doom.

Exactly  TIM should be played a right long lines with Magento  that fits  what TIM should have been perfectly...  Now   Dr. Doom  , from reading Invansion Aria is more like  Dr.Doom - hell even down  to talking about ones self  in the third person.

CrutchCricket wrote...


True, he's supposed to be a
balacing force in the Marvel universe. He's one of the few characters
that says "I'm beyond good and evil" and I just have to agree
wholeheardtedly. Not that I place much stock in such notions to begin
with but...
Interesting sidenote: The Ultimate version of Galactus,
Gah Lak Tus is a fleet of giant robots, vaguely cephelopodian in
appearance that drains planets of resources and considers organic life
abhorent. Sound familiar? (it looks more like Matrix squiddies though)

 


Yep it sure does  down the driving everyone bat **** crazy into  mass suicde as they approach... Now if Shepard can find a way to fire another universe big bang at the Reapers to the destory them ... 

It would  have been interesting to see if Bioware played the Reapers along the lines of Galactus.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 06 janvier 2012 - 08:57 .

[CrutchCricket]

jtav wrote...
Speaking of comics, anybody else get Norman Osborn vibes from Mr. Lawson?

I don't know... Given all this legacy talk and how many questionable things he may have done in its pursuit I'm thinking more Mr. Sinister.