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[Jade5233]

in celebration of 100 pages, I'll add my next chapter of The Shepard Chronicles:

http://www.fanfictio...pard_Chronicles

[syllogi]

AkodoRyu wrote...

Pfeh. ME2 KAST has 3 parts.

Last time I counted, it was something like 3300 pages total for all three threads.  Nothing compared to the various Tali or Miranda threads, but not a bad run, for a character that some people claim nobody likes.  Sort of like there's no female gamers...<_<

[shepskisaac]

TeenZombie wrote...

Last time I counted, it was something like 3300 pages total for all three threads.  Nothing compared to the various Tali or Miranda threads, but not a bad run, for a character that some people claim nobody likes.  Sort of like there's no female gamers...<_<

It's almost always the (straight) guys ignoring male characters and thinking they have an authority to speak for everyone on it, as if they "owned" gaming industry. Like that reporter who told Casey "Seriously, who cares about Kaidan". Ridiculous <_<

[Darazelly]

IsaacShep wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Last time I counted, it was something like 3300 pages total for all three threads.  Nothing compared to the various Tali or Miranda threads, but not a bad run, for a character that some people claim nobody likes.  Sort of like there's no female gamers...<_<

It's almost always the (straight) guys ignoring male characters and thinking they have an authority to speak for everyone on it, as if they "owned" gaming industry. Like that reporter who told Casey "Seriously, who cares about Kaidan". Ridiculous <_<

Now I'm curious, where did a reporter say that?

[Mandalina]

IsaacShep wrote...

It's almost always the (straight) guys ignoring male characters and thinking they have an authority to speak for everyone on it, as if they "owned" gaming industry. Like that reporter who told Casey "Seriously, who cares about Kaidan". Ridiculous <_<

We do!

[shepskisaac]

Darazelly wrote...

Now I'm curious, where did a reporter say that?

It was during E3, don't remember, will try to find the video

[Shoko86]

IsaacShep wrote...
It's almost always the (straight) guys ignoring male characters and thinking they have an authority to speak for everyone on it, as if they "owned" gaming industry. Like that reporter who told Casey "Seriously, who cares about Kaidan". Ridiculous <_<

I remember that. :U I was so mad when they said it like that! It was as if they were stating a fact that Kaidan had no fanbase or what so ever. So untrue!!

[Amratis]

IsaacShep wrote...

Darazelly wrote...

Now I'm curious, where did a reporter say that?

It was during E3, don't remember, will try to find the video

That guy was no reporter, that was the editor-in-chief of IGN who made that snide comment at e3, Hilary Goldstein or something was it? - came across as an UTTER twit if you ask me.

[Finis Valorum]

Amratis wrote...

That guy was no reporter, that was the editor-in-chief of IGN who made that snide comment at e3, Hilary Goldstein or something was it? - came across as an UTTER twit if you ask me.

Seriously?, now I want to see that video, a half drunk journalist might occasionally be expected to do something stupid like that but an editor-in-chief should be expected to know better than to voice such sentiments in public.

[syllogi]

I can't listen to sound at work, so I *think* this is the video: http://www.ign.com/v...jectid=14235016

I'll be honest, Goldstein's comment about Kaidan irked me, but mostly because he seemed to be implying that nobody likes Kaidan because, you know, all gamers have the mindset of 14 year old heterosexual boys who think that dudes who talk about their feelings are gross and have cooties. I don't think that Hudson was putting the character down in his answer, he was put on the spot, and it is statistically true that more players save Ashley.

[Geirahod]

Finis Valorum wrote...

Amratis wrote...

That guy was no reporter, that was the editor-in-chief of IGN who made that snide comment at e3, Hilary Goldstein or something was it? - came across as an UTTER twit if you ask me.

Seriously?, now I want to see that video, a half drunk journalist might occasionally be expected to do something stupid like that but an editor-in-chief should be expected to know better than to voice such sentiments in public.

Most of the people that works in IGN are jerks....so, don't be surprised by that guy....editor chief or not, he doesn't know the meaning of common sense...

[Sshodan]

I bet it's as "true" as the "80% played created male Shep" - which misplays that you can have only one character, they simply have no separate statistic for female ones.
Plenty of people saved Kaiden.

[shepskisaac]

TeenZombie wrote...

I can't listen to sound at work, so I *think* this is the video: http://www.ign.com/v...jectid=14235016

I'll be honest, Goldstein's comment about Kaidan irked me, but mostly because he seemed to be implying that nobody likes Kaidan because, you know, all gamers have the mindset of 14 year old heterosexual boys who think that dudes who talk about their feelings are gross and have cooties. I don't think that Hudson was putting the character down in his answer, he was put on the spot, and it is statistically true that more players save Ashley.

Yep, it's this one @ 11:50. Hilary says "Let's be fair, most people would see Ashley" to which Casey responds "That's probably true". Then someone says "There's some love for Kaidan but not alot". I *think* it's Casey but not sure. Don't like these comments, he's greatly loved on these forums, he's #1 requested for new screenshots along with Ashley yet they say there's not alot love for him? 

Anyway, this comment wasn't that bad but I do remember another one, from IGN as well. That one was written, and that's the one I remember to be like "Who cares about Kaidan". Will find it.

EDIT: And I've found it. Guess who wrote it? The very same Hillary Goldstein who trolled Kaidan in the video:

Mass Effect 3 might be about big-scale battles and the fate of all worlds, but there's still time for love. There's an epic battle for Shepard's heart, after all. If you were suave in Mass Effect 1 and 2, then you have two love interests, both vying for you as worlds are about to end. This love triangle will be resolved by the end of Mass Effect 3, so look forward to walking off into the sunset with Liara. I mean, seriously, who else would you want to be with -- Kaidan?

uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/117/1172194p1.html
He's some Kaidan hater <_<

Modifié par IsaacShep, 18 juillet 2011 - 05:12 .

[Jenova65]

IsaacShep wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Last time I counted, it was something like 3300 pages total for all three threads.  Nothing compared to the various Tali or Miranda threads, but not a bad run, for a character that some people claim nobody likes.  Sort of like there's no female gamers...<_<

It's almost always the (straight) guys ignoring male characters and thinking they have an authority to speak for everyone on it, as if they "owned" gaming industry. Like that reporter who told Casey "Seriously, who cares about Kaidan". Ridiculous <_<

You're talking about that guy from IGN, right......? 
Ooooh, I gave him a bad review on there  It felt good................. 

[Criz]

I still think it's taken out of context somewhat

given the number of male Shepard playthroughs outweighing the females, I still think this is heavily influenced by the numbers of people who only saved Ashley because they were romancing her
would be interesting to see how those things would have turned out of the human party members would have remained bi LI options ...

anyway, I think - or rather I'd like to believe - that Casey is speaking from the anonymous numbers BioWare gets from player feedback rather than hating a character, because usually they would appease people more than dissing the groups that love a character even if that feeling isn't shared by alot of people

[AkodoRyu]

IsaacShep wrote...
He's some Kaidan hater <_<

Naw, he just prefers some LiaraxFemShep action.

Anyways, Casey knows we're here. I think.

[Fault Girl]

This love triangle will be resolved by the end of Mass Effect 3

Just taking this sentence from the info Isaace pasted, does that mean like every game so far romance doesn't trigger till the end? or maybe just the love triangle....

Thta reporter is a douche, gave him a review of my own too. I think the issue is that it wasn't exactly constructive and the way he said/wrote it wasn't fair.

Modifié par ZombieGeisha, 18 juillet 2011 - 05:56 .

[Laminator]

I never understood why in ME1, Kaidan would refuse to get involved with both Liara and femshep when she chooses the 'Can't I have you both?' option. He's a guy, he's given the option of having sex with two hot women, and he refuses? IMO, no matter how much you want to be exclusive, or how much your feelings with one of them is 'real', it's a damned good deal.

...Yes, I am male. I'm also about as sensitive as Kaidan and I don't condone open relationships at all. But I'm just sayin'.

[Ellyria]

 Throwing in my love for Kaidan!
After Eden Prime, when Shepard tells him not to blame himself for the beacon, and he gives that smile, I was like "Yeah... gonna have to hit that." 

[littlenikki]

Laminator wrote...

I never understood why in ME1, Kaidan would refuse to get involved with both Liara and femshep when she chooses the 'Can't I have you both?' option. He's a guy, he's given the option of having sex with two hot women, and he refuses? IMO, no matter how much you want to be exclusive, or how much your feelings with one of them is 'real', it's a damned good deal.

...Yes, I am male. I'm also about as sensitive as Kaidan and I don't condone open relationships at all. But I'm just sayin'.

If, as you claim, you personally dont agree with the idea of "open relationships", then you're kind of answering your own question right there...

Not all men are along the same mindset of "oh I get to sleep w/ two hot chicks this is awesome" There's a reason it's mainly referred to a fantasy...in that yes, in your mind it sounds like a good deal, but in reality maybe you're morals and personal beliefs would never allow you to cross that line. Hell, I could have a fantasy about getting pulled over by a hot cop and doin the nasty but in reality, I would NEVER just throw myself at a complete stranger like that.

Kaidan makes it clear in his arguement that he is simply just not interested in that sort of thing. Plan and simple if you ask me

[Shoko86]

Laminator wrote...

I never understood why in ME1, Kaidan would refuse to get involved with both Liara and femshep when she chooses the 'Can't I have you both?' option. He's a guy, he's given the option of having sex with two hot women, and he refuses? IMO, no matter how much you want to be exclusive, or how much your feelings with one of them is 'real', it's a damned good deal.

...Yes, I am male. I'm also about as sensitive as Kaidan and I don't condone open relationships at all. But I'm just sayin'.

This is why I like Kaidan tbh. He's rare.

[Finis Valorum]

Criz-Zone wrote...

would be interesting to see how those things would have turned out of the human party members would have remained bi LI options ...

Or if they had not been romanceable at all for that matter. But on the bi thing weren't the developers actually a bit surprised by how many people took advantage of the s/s options in DA:O?
Still if they had remained bi the figures might not have changed all that much since while the actual gay and lesbian gamers might balance each other out somewhat,the fact remains that f/f is a draw for many male gamers while I don't know if all that many straight women would be interested in Romancing Kaidan again with MShep when they can already do so with FemShep. 

Modifié par Finis Valorum, 18 juillet 2011 - 06:25 .

[syllogi]

Laminator wrote...

I never understood why in ME1, Kaidan would refuse to get involved with both Liara and femshep when she chooses the 'Can't I have you both?' option. He's a guy, he's given the option of having sex with two hot women, and he refuses? IMO, no matter how much you want to be exclusive, or how much your feelings with one of them is 'real', it's a damned good deal.

...Yes, I am male. I'm also about as sensitive as Kaidan and I don't condone open relationships at all. But I'm just sayin'.

Well, I look at it as him thinking that Shepard was stringing him along or flirting as a joke; he took it more seriously than that and was offended by the idea that all Shepard wanted was apparently a booty call.  Kaidan appeared to take the potential for fraternization charges pretty seriously, so to him, it wasn't worth pursuing a relationship with his superior if it wasn't as important to her.  I think that's understandable.  If he really wanted to just get laid, he wouldn't be messing around with his commanding officer.

There's also the idea that Shepard isn't actually offering a threesome, but instead wants to make both Liara and Kaidan her "harem"...that doesn't seem too appealing, if you look at the scene that way.  Maybe Kaidan thought that was what was going on.

[Andromedaae]

Laminator wrote...

I never understood why in ME1, Kaidan would refuse to get involved with both Liara and femshep when she chooses the 'Can't I have you both?' option. He's a guy, he's given the option of having sex with two hot women, and he refuses? IMO, no matter how much you want to be exclusive, or how much your feelings with one of them is 'real', it's a damned good deal.

...Yes, I am male. I'm also about as sensitive as Kaidan and I don't condone open relationships at all. But I'm just sayin'.

Well I'm female so I don't know whether this will be particularly helpful...
But Kaidan is portrayed as this unbelievably sweet and sensitive character (IMO at least) and for that reason I believe he refuses on the basis of his love for Shepard. He seems the type to want an equal and conventional relationship, and this wouldn't apply here considering he loves Shepard absolutely and she is splitting her love - or lust - between himself and Liara.

Who knows... If it were two different women, and a completely different situation maybe he'd even be up for it... But In this situation, no. He just wants Shepard and her alone.
I mean can you imagine agreeing to that and then watching someone you love being with someone else as well? Jealously is obviously a big part of it.
IRL I know that even if I believe I love someone a lot and if they are in a position where they can't choose, I back out. I'd want that love fully, and I wouldn't want to be insecure all the time.

This is at least why I believe he refused. 
But again, I'm female, so maybe it doesn't work exactly the same for males.

[Pax of Doom]

Laminator wrote...

I never understood why in ME1, Kaidan would refuse to get involved with both Liara and femshep when she chooses the 'Can't I have you both?' option. He's a guy, he's given the option of having sex with two hot women, and he refuses? IMO, no matter how much you want to be exclusive, or how much your feelings with one of them is 'real', it's a damned good deal.

...Yes, I am male. I'm also about as sensitive as Kaidan and I don't condone open relationships at all. But I'm just sayin'.

Kudos to you for speaking your mind here. 

Having said that...

2 girls 1 guy is a common fantasy for men - but it's that, a fantasy.  The reality doesn't often work as well as one hopes.  For instance, a lesbian couple would want jack all to do with a man.  Then you have jealousy issues, pursuing the next kink for fulfillment, threats of courts martial if things don't go well, lower deck rumors questioning masculinity (of the "can't satisfy his woman" variety - guys IRL get very touchy when you bring up certain, uh, devices), and all other troublesome topics. 

Best to keep the fantasy a fantasy, at least until you are in a committed relationship and your partner is willing to explore.  At that point, where Shepard and Kaidan didn't even kiss, he was asking for confirmation of pursuing a relationship - wrong time to ask for a threesome. 

Reverse the roles - if Kaidan had asked, how many people would have wished for a Renegade interrupt to slap his face?