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[dirae]

yoshibb wrote...

dirae wrote...

yoshibb

I was gonna say something snarky, but no. Beautifully put.

Nope. Can't stop myself.
Doesn't saving all the people in Bringing Down the Sky cancel out Arrival, though?

Lol, well you can say that saving the galaxy from Sovereign is pretty big, too. But I don't think that people believed that Shepard was crazy all along. Probably, they think of Shepard like Saren, a once great hero who descended into madness. No matter the amazing things you've done in the past, you can't just suddenly go out and start destroying entire systems. That's how the majority sees it. You spouting off crazy **** while jetting around forbidden areas and killing hundreds of thousands of people.

Funny you mention that! I wonder why no one in the game notices that Saren has geth parts on him and freaky semi-mechanized looking eyes. Husk-like eyes. Indoctrinated eyes. TIM-esque eyes. If you renegade Shep completely, the aesthetic covering of not only their breaks down, but the sclera and iris of the eyes. It reveales a similar mechanized look.

[POSSIBLE SPOILER/CRAZY RANTING GIBBERISH ALERT]

Every rebirthed Shep has some new bits and pieces. Even without all the upgrades you can see artificial bits. The Illusive Man has been indoctrinated, much like Saren. He's higher functioning, I believe. His lucid moments are longer and more frequent than Saren's are or were. Considering the Reapers taking a personal interest in Shepard since ME1, I wonder if TIM put some husk/reaper tech into Shepard. Maybe he honestly believed it would help Shep. But in the end indoctrination makes the people in question believe their doing things of their own free will.

Say Shepard has been implanted. If you put weight on the saying that Reapers drop fantastic technology onto lesser beings so they develope in ways that the Reapers approve of... What if any form of rebellion on Shepard's part is acceptable in a Reaper's mind, since no one is privvy to their mindset, I doubt we can rule that out entirely. Honestly, I think even TIM's funded raid on the Collector base was an act of rebellion that the Reapers found acceptable since thousands of them are already en route en mass to earth and using Collectors as Kobayashi to their Soze would be meaningless.

I suspect the Reapers and TIM finding a dead Shepard was gold, since they want to know what makes her tick from the inside out and why not throw in a failsafe while they're at it? When TIM denied Miranda's request to put brain controlling devices on Shep? Already <i>done</i>. (IMHO)

To cut a long rant short, I think Kaidan's gonna have to put Shepard down like Old Yeller in ME3.

I'll stop now. Posting when I'm sleepy is my drunk-dialing.

[yoshibb]

Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

That shot of London IS very awesome. From the demo bits I've seen, the war is gonna be a brutal one.

I agree, that this is Shep's lowest point. Everyone that he/she fought with is scattered, and oh yeah... Shep took out a solar system with 300K dead.

That'll weigh on Skylar's soul until the day she dies. She's gonna jump headfirst into fighting in the war, like atonement.. although she knows thousands will die by her hand as a result.

The fact that she's basically been killing since she was 18 isn't helping matters much any either.

Yeah, I think this is a good point. Shepard probably feels responsible for all these deaths. Maybe there was more he/she could have done to convince everyone. I know my Shepard is going to be miserable. I think there's a point where she just thinks about leaving these people to their fate. But then she sees that kid, crashing in that shuttle, and she regains her will to fight again.

Have a feeling it's not going to be fun. I'm kind of hoping for a breaking point moment. Maybe a mission goes bad, someone dies. Kaidan (or another love interest) is there and she just loses it in private with them. A lot of yelling and blaming and then she just starts crying. And then that would be the beginning of the mend to Shepard and Kaidan's relationship. I'd love that but I don't know how well it would translate in game. It would be cool though.

Also, I'm feeling crazy sentimental and emotional listening to this music from the demo. It's so beautiful when its matched with the scene in the intro I tear up 

I definitely think this is the game that breaks me.

Modifié par yoshibb, 13 février 2012 - 05:55 .

[CrimsonNephilim]

Ah what the heck I'll jump in on the cutesy relationship sharing.

I met my boyfriend online after joining a site that I thought was like facebook. I found his profile and sent him a message. We started talking daily and eventually exchanged numbers and we got into texting each other daily. One night we were talking via IM and I was watching Cowboy Bebop. He heard the TV over my mic and got excited when I told him I like anime and video games. He started calling me his girl, and we've been together ever since. Going on 4 years this August :3

[EmzvasNormandy]

 Now it's Gold guys 

twitter.com/CaseyDHudson/statuses/168934352154136576

Modifié par Emz_J, 13 février 2012 - 05:59 .

[CrimsonNephilim]

22 days until Kaidan is here!

[Soccerchic6]

Headcanon-wise, Adrienne is definitely at her lowest point. She understands the skepticism and doubt coming from everyone, but it hurts that it's coming from people close to her. Anderson is doing his best to defend Shepard, but I think, after everything she's done, there's only so much that he can defend. And Kaidan...well, Adrienne is still hurt that he called her a traitor. At one point, I would like for her to tell Kaidan "How can I believe in myself when the people I love, the people I want to protect, don't believe in me?".

I think Hale described Shepard perfectly in her audioblog with Sbarge. For the past three years, Shepard has done nothing but fight, and it's gotten to a point where Shepard is just tired of it. She's only human, and we're going to start to see some uncertainty on Shepard's part.

yoshibb, I agree. If we take a moment to see all this from a different perspective, say the Council's or the Alliance's, Shepard has done some pretty nasty sh*t. They're probably seeing her as another Saren.

Adrienne is more than ready to say "I told you so", but after the Reapers start attacking, she feels like actions speak louder than words. Now it's time to put everything else behind her, get the rest of the races on her side and kick some Reaper butt!

[shepskisaac]

Emz_J wrote...

 Now it's Gold guys 

twitter.com/CaseyDHudson/statuses/168934352154136576

So happy it's done!  Now we can say whatever we want and devs won't be able to cut anything in revenge

Modifié par IsaacShep, 13 février 2012 - 06:13 .

[dirae]

IsaacShep wrote...

Emz_J wrote...

 Now it's Gold guys 

twitter.com/CaseyDHudson/statuses/168934352154136576

So happy it's done!  Now we can say whatever we want and devs won't be able to cut anything in revenge

*cough, sputter* Wait, what? That's a thing?

If we're bad, they'll be like "No Kaidain for you!"
edit: Good one, IsaacShep. You scared me for a minute.

Modifié par dirae, 13 février 2012 - 06:23 .

[ShallowLife8917]

 My Cannon Shep Johanna's feelings into ME3 are going to be mix.

She relived she's out of T.I.M's thumb [ or so she thinks...depending on ME3, haven't read the spoiler script]  
after what happended with Arival, she feels she deservies whatever punshment she gets. but she also knows there was no other option.
She is frustraed that no one belives her about the Reapers, she thinks there is no chance of fixing things with Kaidan. [  just played Hirizon today, she was a bit defencive to kaidan] because of this  she is going to be a bit Mission Centric at the begining of ME3...

well, that's how i see it anyway:D

[Silver77nz]

I have one Renegade who is just angry at the whole world. She also didn't really care she blew up 300 k batarians seeing how they killed her family and friends on Mindoir. She is pissed at the Allience for pissing on her grave at the first chance they got. Hates Cerberus and doesn't want to be there but asked Allience and Council for help and they basically gave her the finger. So now she has to work with the ****s who killed her unit on Akuze. Blowing up the Collectors base was her way of giving TIM the finger. Then out of the kindness out of her heart she agreed to do something stupid. Go into a Batarian prision to bust out an Allience scientist alone! Now she has no witnesses and is exactly where the Allience wants her to be. So she isn't too happy at this point. UNTIL she sees that little kid:crying: I think that little kid might just make her think about her life a little more.

[dirae]

Silverpearl1977 wrote...

I have one Renegade who is just angry at the whole world. She also didn't really care she blew up 300 k batarians seeing how they killed her family and friends on Mindoir. She is pissed at the Allience for pissing on her grave at the first chance they got. Hates Cerberus and doesn't want to be there but asked Allience and Council for help and they basically gave her the finger. So now she has to work with the ****s who killed her unit on Akuze. Blowing up the Collectors base was her way of giving TIM the finger. Then out of the kindness out of her heart she agreed to do something stupid. Go into a Batarian prision to bust out an Allience scientist alone! Now she has no witnesses and is exactly where the Allience wants her to be. So she isn't too happy at this point. UNTIL she sees that little kid:crying: I think that little kid might just make her think about her life a little more.

Yes! THIS. All of it. THAT is what the Mass Effect movie should be like. And with a femshep, too!

Also, hated that my Sole Survivor Shep couldn't ever make Cerberus pay for Akuze. If you look at it, 99/100 they've tried to kill her going WAY back even before ME1.  They bring her back to life as an indentured servant. Mass Effect 3, back to trying to kill her.  One of these things doesn't belong here

Modifié par dirae, 13 février 2012 - 07:17 .

[Silver77nz]

dirae wrote...

Silverpearl1977 wrote...

I have one Renegade who is just angry at the whole world. She also didn't really care she blew up 300 k batarians seeing how they killed her family and friends on Mindoir. She is pissed at the Allience for pissing on her grave at the first chance they got. Hates Cerberus and doesn't want to be there but asked Allience and Council for help and they basically gave her the finger. So now she has to work with the ****s who killed her unit on Akuze. Blowing up the Collectors base was her way of giving TIM the finger. Then out of the kindness out of her heart she agreed to do something stupid. Go into a Batarian prision to bust out an Allience scientist alone! Now she has no witnesses and is exactly where the Allience wants her to be. So she isn't too happy at this point. UNTIL she sees that little kid:crying: I think that little kid might just make her think about her life a little more.

Yes! THIS. All of it. THAT is what the Mass Effect movie should be like. And with a femshep, too!

Also, hated that my Sole Survivor Shep couldn't ever make Cerberus pay for Akuze. If you look at it, 99/100 they've tried to kill her going WAY back even before ME1.  They bring her back to life as an indentured servant. Mass Effect 3, back to trying to kill her.  One of these things doesn't belong here

Well in ME2 walking shep into a ambush in the ship she was killed was a pretty F uped thing to do. I think that is when my Renegade just lost it. Yea and that is one of the things that bugged me. I love when TIM says things like, "Now is not the time to carry burdens or you need to set your feelings aside" I was like umm you just walked me into a ambush on THE ship that killed me. Oh how I want to rewrite that whole fight with TIM after that scene.

[KealaFerret]

I don't remember who posted it, but whoever mentioned the Raphael Sbarge audio blog bit... darn you. Now I'm up past my bedtime. :: fist shake :: If you haven't seen it, worth checking out: http://fangeek.com/c...arge-audioblog/  Neat stuff for someone to do for the fans, particularly liked the Kimberly Brooks surprise.

[ShallowLife8917]

 hey everyone, 
I was looking around onVega page and found this.. i thought i should post it for people who want to be spoiler free


Word of warning: there are people out there today (right now) who have the full game. For your own sake, either stomach a torrent or spoils, or LEAVE THE FORUM. NOW. Take a three week break. It won't kill you.

I was actually watching a stream of the full game, thinking it was the demo until the intro...well...continued.



here is the link to the origanal post, not the one i fonud.. 

http://social.biowar...scussion/19149/

[sanmar]

Emz_J wrote...

 Now it's Gold guys 

twitter.com/CaseyDHudson/statuses/168934352154136576

YES! ... It's done...the final story of Shepard and Kaidan. :happy:
It makes me also sad, because there will be no Kaidan anymore.

Hopefully we have enough kaidan in ME3.



by baerenbeere

@shallowLife What? But how is this possible? Seriously? Thanks for the warning!

Modifié par sanmar, 13 février 2012 - 11:27 .

[kareatix]

ShallowLife8917 wrote...

 hey everyone, 
I was looking around onVega page and found this.. i thought i should post it for people who want to be spoiler free


[color=rgb(170, 170, 170)">Word of warning: there are people out there today (right ]) who have the full game. For your own sake, either stomach a torrent or spoils, or LEAVE THE FORUM. NOW. Take a three week break. It won't kill you.[/color]

I was actually watching a stream of the full game, thinking it was the demo until the intro...well...continued.



here is the link to the origanal post, not the one i fonud.. 

http://social.biowar...scussion/19149/

Blimey, tnx. If it's true, I guess it's time for some evasive maneuvers. While I don't mind script/written spoilers, I definitely don't want to see how it was all done ingame.

[Ricvenart]

I still disagree with Andersons attitude though, shame too it was nice to have one person behind you, though I guess he does faulter a bit in ME2 as you are with Cerberus. I guess me and him are going to butting head and Hackett will be my go to guy (he approves of Arrival even if you go about it as a renegade).

In ME1 he does actually say about killing civilians, he says the mission come first but you should look for another way, thats why he hated Saren because he never tried. So if he still believes you about the reapers (and even if not he soon gets a slap in the face for it) he should know you had no choice, that doing that is important to the Mission of sparing as much of the Galaxy as they can and giving them a fighting chance that shouldn't have been wasted like they did. Thats why the more then one line is frankly insulting, when you could be dancing round him going "I told you so I Told you so :P" and berate him, the alliance and galaxy for wasting everything you've done, nearly dying multiple times, actually dying onces and only thanks to a "terrorist" group living again, the alliance didn't even look for your body, the hero of the Citadel, they're so lazy they send you 2 years later to pick up dogtags and place a monument.
Edit: It just seems weird/inappropriate that NOW is the time he gets his doubts *looks out of window* *notices outside wall has been melted by reapers*. I'm still hoping that within a hopefully extended intro it seems better but Im not sure what context would change the fact he was thanked and felt the need to say it's not enough.

Besides for my Shepard it wasn't really him that killed those 300,000 Batarians, it was Kenson preventing my warning and the Reapers who are coming and would kill alot more if left that advantage, if you didn't the start of ME3 the death toll would be a trillion, that planet may already have been scrubbed clean anyway, rather then just starting.

But maybe I'm biased against batarians, we haven't been given alot to go by to like them, they are given a little bit of "humanity" so to speak in Omega, when they aren't ranting against you or trying to poison you but outside of that, well known slavers, murderers, crime gangs, terrorists, that on multiple times have tried to cause human death on large scales, including ME1 trying to kill millions and that in no way was a preventative measure.
Edit: Forgot to mention they are a rogue "state" too. (Although it's boggling why they havent been declared enemies of the council for acts of Terrorism, and breaking every Council law in council space they can)

Maybe I should just reveal all the evidence I've collected on the alliance in the years from all thoses favours I did for them on the sly (spy probe nuke anyone?)

I'd be fine with Kaidan bringing it up and even working "with" Cerberus again as long as he doesn't dwell too much on them. Point one being "Eh hello, If I wasn't for me you'd be goo on horizon now and so many more humans would have gone too" Point 2 "Are you seriously going to berate me for trying to stop the reapers now earth is swarming with them?". All they did was provide me the resources to carry on being who I was, including a really massive one of life.

Modifié par Ricvenart, 13 février 2012 - 12:10 .

[ShadowTilu]

Hi there!
I wanted to show my support to our lovely and so hot Kaidan for a very long time (since the start of this thread in fact) but I always fear to make language mistakes. So yes, sorry if my English isn't perfect (I'm French, for those who want to know).

Well, there is one thing that decides me to post today. I represent a small group of French Kaidanites, and they pushed me to share one theory of ours and ask if anybody sees any failure in it. There it is:

SPOILER ALERT! (leaked script)

• About one year ago, we learned in a review (don't remember which one, maybe in GameInformer) that the ones who had been faithful to their LI of ME1 in ME2 were going to be rewarded in ME3.

•  We also learned from the Twitter of one of the BioWare's staff members that all subjects in romances were treated (wedding, s/s...) except Kromance.

• In the leaked script, there is no indication of any possible future with Kaidan, Ashley or Liara. It's really weird since other LIs have some kind of dialog about it, like Garrus and his "one-Turian kind of woman" part (without getting into the fact that the script is neither 100% accurate, nor complete, nor the "the-leaked-script-had-not-been-leaked-but-given-to-us-by-BW/EA" part).

 
Our theory is: And if our reward for being faithful were the wedding part? It sound, at least, logical to me. An extra sex scene and/or romantic scene would be a small reward, in my opinion, since ALL LIs have (or will have) such content. If there were a wedding ceremony only for those three, it would be a real reward because it would be only for Kaidan, Ashley and Liara.
In theory, Shepard is with Kaidan (or Ash or Liara) for almost three years at the beginning of ME3, despite the sort of break in ME2. When you are with someone for a little while, it's usual for most people to start to talk about living together, wedding, family, babies... They are still loving each other (or that's the way I choose to understand post-Horizon mail), even death can't stop them and they know that. So wouldn't it be natural for them to get married despite the whole thing of the Galaxy at War? In fact, it's perhaps the better moment for a wedding to give themselves courage and strength, and hope to anybody else.

 
I have to mention that I was NOT for any form of wedding in Mass Effect before I saw Kaidan in the demo. I just fall in love with him (so to speak). Again. And more than ever. He is so gorgeous and lovely and sexy and handsome and wonderful and amazing and powerful and has the most fabulous ass I've ever seen... He is sooooooooo hot !
Errr… Sorry for that. I’m running out of patience.

Anyways, thanks for reading me… us, I mean US, the group.

And have a Happy Kaiday

[mineralica]

Shepard in ME3? My main Paragon seems to find her own way to break:

From what I see where Alyson is going, she's secretly a krogan in disguise. She was through a lot, and now it's time for BLOODRAGE!!! She always was rather aggressive, but now she lives for only one thing - completely destroy Reapers, make them regret that they started their cycles of destruction and met real Destroyer (hell of a name for Vanguard specialization, don't you think?) on their way. The problem? Everything around - friends, crew, civilians - are just noise which is easily ignored on her path. If something may bring her back into more controlled pre-ME state, this will be personal matters... and since appearance of Hannah Shepard is unlikely to happen and new potential LI are met with "I have a shotgun", Kaidan has a lot of calming down to do.

[sberna78]

Old Kaidanite here , have been lurking for a while since ME2 tho'.

I'm really enjoying the convo's here, and of course the photos and artwork (it's a lovely way to wake up along with my morning coffee), and figured that I might as well jump in and ramble a bit. I'm also procrastinating because I have a test to take today, but that's another story altogether...

Anyways, Someone above recently noted some of Jennifer Hale's comments regarding Shepard having been fighting for so long, and starting to get a little disheartened. I really like this angle, I mean we all know that Shep is a total badass and can hold her own in a fight, but in the same vein she's only human, and can take so much strife and trauma before she starts to crack around the edges a bit. I would bet money that as a character, she's likely suffering from some serious Post Traumatic Stress...and I would love to see this touched upon (however briefly) in ME3.

She'll do what she needs to do in order to get the job done, just as she always has. But yeah, things are starting to take it's toll, and I think it'd be good to see this reflected in her personal relationships (be it with Kaidan, or her friendships with other squad members).

Ah now to get back on topic with the thread, yes Kaidan...I have to add my voice to the chorus of appreciation for how good he looks these days. I like the slightly scruffy look, he seems a bit more weathered now, and IMO it makes him even more attractive. I'm really looking forward to seeing how their relationship is going to progress as they continue the fight against the Reaper Invasion. I really hope that there will be some sort of conversation regarding the events on Horizon, and in my fantasies, I'd love the chance to vent to him a little bit about his reactions...and I'm secretly hoping that at some point in ME3 if you continue the romance, that he'll say something like..."I lost you once, I WON'T lose you again"...total Squee-worthy moment there .

[Kia Purity]

I technically considered my Shep already in middle of a mental breakdown in middle of ME2 and Arrival didn't help things much with the death of so many innocents. She tries to put on a brave face for others but she's got one hell of a war in her head.

I yet have to write a fic about that ... been brain dead due to the looooong wait for ME3 and eventual reunion with Kaidan XD

But hell, hearing that the game's finally gone gold makes me excited even more! XD 21 days!

[Graceyn]

dirae wrote...

Queen Deadite wrote...

I love that screen shot of London.

Thanks you guys! Gotta love boys that love nerdy girls.

Or nerdy guys that love nerdy girls. Got my hubby into Mass Effect. He asks questions and I find myself explaining and theorizing in D&D/pathfinder/comicbook terms.

"Well, the reapers are kind of like a mix between Galacticus, Brainiac and HAL, I guess.... "
"Paragon is like being a Paladin.... no Joker is chaotic good, maybe chaotic neutral.... "
"I think Harbinger is getting into Spidey Symbiote territory the way he/she/it talks about Shep"

The fact that I can say these things and he knows what I mean make me indescribably happy.

Isn't it just awesome and wonderful?

[Weltea]

@Tilu026
the only 'fault' I see in that thory is that for a lot of players,myself included, as well as for some Shepards, a wedding wouldn't in any way be considered a reward.

[txmn1016]

dirae wrote...

yoshibb

I was gonna say something snarky, but no. Beautifully put.

Nope. Can't stop myself.
Doesn't saving all the people in Bringing Down the Sky cancel out Arrival, though?

I wouldn't say that.  But I think the original point of Arival was to give everyone time (which they obviously didn't make use of--not Shepards fault).

[Major Alenko]

I think it's my time to depart this thread, I hope everyone enjoys the game, I just don't want it spoil it, as people are posting spoilers that I've tried hard to avoid.

Modifié par Commodore Q, 13 février 2012 - 03:05 .