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[shepskisaac]

Qeilla wrote...
Took the words right outta my mouth.
Don't get me wrong I like Liara but one can start feeling a bit unloved when BioWare says they listen to their fans and then give us something else.

I like Liara too, but I agree that I'm starting to feel like they're pushing her to be the 2nd most important character of the franchise and the "right"/canon LI choice for Shep. It's kind of annoying. I didn't really feel it as muc until I read the Redemption comics few days ago. Her role is really gigantic, basically it's all thanks to her and VS doesn't matter at all.

Qeilla wrote...
(Can I quote gifs this small? If not I will gladly go back and edit the post. It's been awhile)

The general rule is not to quote any pic/gif I think. But if you're the only one to quote I don't think it's gonna be a big problem.

TOP Kaidan:

Modifié par IsaacShep, 22 juillet 2011 - 03:15 .

[agumal]

IsaacShep wrote...

If I see Liara in FemShep's trailer instead of Kaidan...

Quoting WITH gif because it's too awesome and too accurate for my feelings if it would be so.

FireEye wrote...

Kia Purity wrote...

Stupid double post.

(THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE. MOVE ALONG. Don't pay attention to the Naked Kaidan in the background.)

... you mean this?

http://www.mustbesom...hep/KaiButt.png

Oh sweet merciful Lord what is this?

Modifié par agumal, 22 juillet 2011 - 03:15 .

[Shoko86]

IsaacShep wrote...
TOP Kaidan:
http://img38.imagesh...1558/kaidan.png

This picture is amazing. I think I've fallen for him again.

[Qeilla]

IsaacShep wrote...

Qeilla wrote...
Took the words right outta my mouth.
Don't get me wrong I like Liara but one can start feeling a bit unloved when BioWare says they listen to their fans and then give us something else.

I like Liara too, but I agree that I'm starting to feel like they're pushing her to be the 2nd most important character of the franchise and the "right"/canon LI choice for Shep. It's kind of annoying. I didn't really feel it as muc until I read the Redemption comics few days ago. Her role is really gigantic, basically it's all thanks to her and VS doesn't matter at all.

I haven't read the comics yet but when I played LotSB and had that last
talk in the lair and back on the Normandy with her…it felt so awkward because
all of my femSheps romanced Kaidan and Liara was sort of acting like she was
the LI. 

I don't like having ‘canon’ forced on me in a franchise where it is supposedly
up to the player to decide what's what.

IsaacShep wrote...

Qeilla wrote...

(Can I quote gifs this small? If not I will gladly go back and edit the post.
It's been awhile)

The general rule is not to quote any pic/gif I think. But if you're the only
one to quote I don't think it's gonna be a big problem.

Mmmkay. Last time I was on it was alright to do that in the threads. Did the
mods start cracking down? 

(I've been away and lurking mostly when I can. Stupid RL.)

[Sepewrath]

I never get the feeling that Liara is being made into some canon LI or that she is being forced on Shepard. I mean that LoTSB example doesn't mean much, I mean this is clearly a person who is head over heels for Shepard, I mean you have to be all kinds of obsessed to chase down a corpse. So I look at it as love or unrequited love, either one will play out roughly the same with a little dialogue variation.

[shepskisaac]

Sepewrath wrote...

I never get the feeling that Liara is being made into some canon LI or that she is being forced on Shepard. I mean that LoTSB example doesn't mean much, I mean this is clearly a person who is head over heels for Shepard, I mean you have to be all kinds of obsessed to chase down a corpse. So I look at it as love or unrequited love, either one will play out roughly the same with a little dialogue variation.

Did you read Redemption comics? "You were very close with Commander Shepard" I was like "No she wasn't :mellow:". Genesis comic also seems to try to prompt the players to pick her as LI.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 22 juillet 2011 - 04:00 .

[KawaiiKatie]

I just wish that those of us who stayed loyal to the Virmire Survivor were given the change to mention him or her to Liara. If you had a ME2 romance, Liara brings it up, but if you stayed faithful to Kaidan like I did, there's absolutely no way to talk about him with Liara. Very disappointing.

Coupled with the fact that there were no Kaidan or Ash dossiers in the Shadow Broker base, it almost feels like Bioware forgot that Ash and Kaidan exist...

[Sepewrath]

IsaacShep wrote...
Did you read Redemption comics? "You were very close with Commander Shepard" I was like "No she wasn't :mellow:". Genesis comic also seems to try to prompt the players to pick her as LI.

She mind banged Shepard, twice, at least from her perspective, they should be very close. Don't forget that whole mind meld thing is a big deal for them, it would be like humans probing each other for information lol. Think about it terms of real life situation like this, when your someones first, they tend to get a little attached. Whether that be first boyfriend/girlfriend/sexual partner/ crush whatever, Shepard could have been all those things for Liara and I think its safe to assume she got a little attached.

[shepskisaac]

That's perfectly understandable, I wouldn't have issues even if BW established her as an obsessed stalker. But my point is that she seems to be their favourite and they want the players to love her just as much as they do. Genesis does subtly push for her IMO. It's not about her feelings but how the comic presents the story in ME1 (differently to how it was in ME1 since Ash started the flirting first) to make her seem like the first choice.

[leggywillow]

Sepewrath wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
Did you read Redemption comics? "You were very close with Commander Shepard" I was like "No she wasn't :mellow:". Genesis comic also seems to try to prompt the players to pick her as LI.

She mind banged Shepard, twice, at least from her perspective, they should be very close. Don't forget that whole mind meld thing is a big deal for them, it would be like humans probing each other for information lol. Think about it terms of real life situation like this, when your someones first, they tend to get a little attached. Whether that be first boyfriend/girlfriend/sexual partner/ crush whatever, Shepard could have been all those things for Liara and I think its safe to assume she got a little attached.

Yeah, this.  I think no matter what, Liara has a thing for Shepard.  And the mind meld thing means that Liara knows basically everything there is to know about Shep (if I'm understand the mind meld correctly).  You can RP a Shepard that is neutral towards Liara or even dislikes her, but the fact remains that Liara probably knows more about Shepard than anyone at this point (willingly or unwillingly on Shep's part).  You can choose to view that Liara is "close" to Shepard in the same way as a very irritating younger sister: she idolizes Shep and is very clingy no matter how many times you scream at her to leave you alone, and she knows way too much about you.

[KawaiiKatie]

There's.... a lot of things wrong with Liara's idol-worship of Shepard... but... I really don't want to get into that. Not on this thread. Can we talk about Kaidan instead?

I think we're supposed to see new ME3 screenshots at Comic-Con. Casey Hudson hinted as much on his Twitter when he asked what we, the fans, would want to see, and the response was overwhelmingly pro-VS. I'm definitely hopeful that we'll get some Kaidan this weekend.

[shepskisaac]

^ I forgot about that. Yeah, where are the new screens? :/

[Geirahod]

leggywillow wrote...

Sepewrath wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
Did you read Redemption comics? "You were very close with Commander Shepard" I was like "No she wasn't :mellow:". Genesis comic also seems to try to prompt the players to pick her as LI.

She mind banged Shepard, twice, at least from her perspective, they should be very close. Don't forget that whole mind meld thing is a big deal for them, it would be like humans probing each other for information lol. Think about it terms of real life situation like this, when your someones first, they tend to get a little attached. Whether that be first boyfriend/girlfriend/sexual partner/ crush whatever, Shepard could have been all those things for Liara and I think its safe to assume she got a little attached.

Yeah, this.  I think no matter what, Liara has a thing for Shepard.  And the mind meld thing means that Liara knows basically everything there is to know about Shep (if I'm understand the mind meld correctly).  You can RP a Shepard that is neutral towards Liara or even dislikes her, but the fact remains that Liara probably knows more about Shepard than anyone at this point (willingly or unwillingly on Shep's part).  You can choose to view that Liara is "close" to Shepard in the same way as a very irritating younger sister: she idolizes Shep and is very clingy no matter how many times you scream at her to leave you alone, and she knows way too much about you.

This!

I don't dislike Liara (just the part were everything thinks she's too awesome and everyone that don't believe that is an idiot), I mean as character she's interesting....but she's annoying.
I remember the final part of LotSB when she comes to the normandy, always lurking and saying things that I don't like, the part: (if you're in a relationship with other crew member) that wishes both happiness, sounds too forced and almost cynical for me. It's obvious that she's crazy for Shepard....too crazy that's even more creepy than Kelly >.<.

Modifié par Geirahod, 22 juillet 2011 - 04:23 .

[Geirahod]

I dunno, if my comments are being moderated or what, but this thing is so damn slow....¬¬

[Arxduke]

I wish I could post pictures. T^T Still don't know why I can't.

[KawaiiKatie]

IsaacShep wrote...

^ I forgot about that. Yeah, where are the new screens? :/

Comic-Con isn't over yet. If Kaidan-news is forthcoming, I'm guessing it won't be until the weekend.

[Geirahod]

Arxduke wrote...

I wish I could post pictures. T^T Still don't know why I can't.

you can't post pictures? that's weird....you should be able to post images.

[Sepewrath]

If they were showing the VS wouldn't it more likely be Ashley? I mean, the boobs, the boobs lol. But seriously she is way more popular than ol Kaidan. I do look forward to seeing Kaidan, I would have liked to have seen him in one of the demo's.

[mineralica]

Oh, congratulations to everyone whose art was chosen and crossing fingers for everyone here who hasn't got any news about own yet.

About another news: am I understand correctly that the only thing shown about ME3 so far is "Adept Shepard on Sur'Kesh" which I totally missed?

[KawaiiKatie]

Kaidan was in the first ME3 promotional image with Sheploo and Liara, and fans showed a lot of support for Kaidan when Casey Hudson asked for screenshot requests. So I'm hopeful that we'll see a bit of Kaidan this time around!

Besides, if the impending femShep trailer is any indication, Bioware is paying attention to what existing fans want in marketing for this third and final game. We'll get a bit of Kaidan to tide us ove runtil March, I just know it.

[Vertigo_1]

mineralica wrote...

Oh, congratulations to everyone whose art was chosen and crossing fingers for everyone here who hasn't got any news about own yet.

About another news: am I understand correctly that the only thing shown about ME3 so far is "Adept Shepard on Sur'Kesh" which I totally missed?

@ Comic Con? Yeah

Otherwise there's the N7 OPS subsection of the ME3 main page that opened up.

There's still 2 more days of Comic Con, I'm sure they will show more stuff (screenshots, etc)

[shepskisaac]

Sepewrath wrote...

If they were showing the VS wouldn't it more likely be Ashley? I mean, the boobs, the boobs lol. But seriously she is way more popular than ol Kaidan. I do look forward to seeing Kaidan, I would have liked to have seen him in one of the demo's.

Well is she? Kaidan got the majority of women and gays at his feet while Ashley has to compete with uber-popular Miranda and Tali. Perhaps she's saved more because straight guys will often pick 'boobe boobs boobs' even if they already have a pair for their Sheps (Liara), but if we talk about popularity, I would argue

Modifié par IsaacShep, 22 juillet 2011 - 04:50 .

[Arxduke]

Geirahod wrote...

Arxduke wrote...

I wish I could post pictures. T^T Still don't know why I can't.

you can't post pictures? that's weird....you should be able to post images.

I thought so too. My account is older than a day now. And I know I'm doing the [img*]picurl[/img*] right. But I still get the *image removed*

I want to join in on the Kaidan pics!

[devSin]

IsaacShep wrote...

^ I forgot about that. Yeah, where are the new screens? :/

They still have something planned for after the march on Saturday, so I imagine anything really important wouldn't happen until then anyway (and Thu/Fri are the "fake" convention days that nobody actually cares about).

[shepskisaac]

devSin wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

^ I forgot about that. Yeah, where are the new screens? :/

They still have something planned for after the march on Saturday, so I imagine anything really important wouldn't happen until then anyway (and Thu/Fri are the "fake" convention days that nobody actually cares about).

I see. Though they've said the Sunday thing after the march is something important for all Shepards so I kinda doubt it means screens.