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[VintageUtti]

txmn1016 wrote...

If anyone wants to read The Roadmap to Love and Happiness

I think I can safely say it's spoiler free.

I guess I thankfully missed out on endgame spoilers earlier in this thread today.  I loved reading this blog post; it makes me feel like they really went out of their way to make character interactions less: go to character's hang-out spot, talk, flirt, repeat, and instead tried to make it a lot more natural.  I'm definitely looking forward to spontaneous character moments.

[passinjer]

a more upbeat song. young blood - the naked and famous. 

[Satanicponies]

passinjer wrote...

a more upbeat song. young blood - the naked and famous. 

I'm seeing them in April..... BE JEALOUS I COMMAND IT!

[carine]

passinjer wrote...

a more upbeat song. young blood - the naked and famous. 

I like their song Punching in a Dream! 

Kaidan next WEEK. Ajfkdsjf I'm dying. 

[passinjer]

Satanicponies wrote...

passinjer wrote...

a more upbeat song. young blood - the naked and famous. 

I'm seeing them in April..... BE JEALOUS I COMMAND IT!

where are you seeing them to? jealous
this song makes me think of 'the art of flight'

[HowlingSiren]

Darazelly wrote...

Memorable moments that can happen anywhere....

Just me who suddenly get a charming flashback of say... Alistair handing over the rose to the warden while surrounded by darkspawn corpses in the Deep Roads or somesuch?

Yup, had a similar flashback. First kiss with Alistair was covered in blood and gore in the Deep Roads.

[txmn1016]

Nina88 wrote...

Darazelly wrote...

Memorable moments that can happen anywhere....

Just me who suddenly get a charming flashback of say... Alistair handing over the rose to the warden while surrounded by darkspawn corpses in the Deep Roads or somesuch?

Yup, had a similar flashback. First kiss with Alistair was covered in blood and gore in the Deep Roads.

God I miss Alistair

[Zanthia_Grey]

LadyCass wrote...

JillHawke wrote...

I have another song that fits Kaidan and Shepard^_^ 

it's Hym For The missing by RED,It's a really sweet and sad song.

That was beautiful, especially the woman singing near to the end, practically had me in tears. Absolutely beautiful, thanks. Checking out the rest of their songs now.

I agree.. I never had heard of them, but now I think I have to go out and buy some of their songs!  Thanks! 
Edit for spelling.. oops

Modifié par Zanthia_Grey, 28 février 2012 - 09:57 .

[yoshibb]

AndersIsLush wrote...

I hate sad endings, but its what makes it good.

Sad endings are only good if the context around them makes sense and the build up is done right. If it's not right then it makes people angry not sad.

Fallout 3's ending is a perfect example, it is not sad because the context around it makes no sense. There is a mutant immune to radiation standing right behind me. But he can't do it because 'you are supposed to sacrifice yourself, stop poking holes in our cliched storyline and cry damnit!' 

There are not many people who actually can do a sad ending the right way.

[ZehnWaters]

yoshibb wrote...

AndersIsLush wrote...

I hate sad endings, but its what makes it good.

Sad endings are only good if the context around them makes sense and the build up is done right. If it's not right then it makes people angry not sad.

Fallout 3's ending is a perfect example, it is not sad because the context around it makes no sense. There is a mutant immune to radiation standing right behind me. But he can't do it because 'you are supposed to sacrifice yourself, stop poking holes in our cliched storyline and cry damnit!' 

There are not many people who actually can do a sad ending the right way.

Sounds like the ending to the movie Armegeddon.

[JillHawke]

LadyCass wrote...

Slightly offtopic but it's been bugging me recently and I'm wondering if anyone is in the same boat as me. Who else has had two romances and is having a really hard time deciding who to romance in ME3? I got Kaidan and Garrus and I'm pretty much going to play it by ear and see where the cards fall but I honestly couldn't tell you who I think will win.

I am in the same boat xD my main shepard Laura is faithful to Kaidan but my new recent shepard Emily romance Kaidan but then moved on to Garrus,which happened for 2 reasons, 1- I love Garrus also:P and 2 I wanted to see what would happen in ME3 if she moved on to Garrus.

[Dorko525]

txmn1016 wrote...

If anyone wants to read The Roadmap to Love and Happiness

I think I can safely say it's spoiler free. 

@Roadtoloveandblahblah Sounds like damage control, trying to placate the panicking masses. Must have seen the reaction to the leaks. 

Stellacylse wrote...
Hah, just played that this morning. Kept dying as well. I kinda did the wimpy thing and ran. For me they didn't follow into the first entry room. I could blast them around the corner and they wouldn't come after me. 

txmn1016 wrote...

I remember doing that assignment on hardcore (but as a sentinel I think)...and yeah.  Tough stuff.  It more or less involved me hiding in rooms until my sheilds regenerated then popping back and and praying that I would kill one more before they killed me. 

I finally decided to do a full retreat. Lmao. I'll get back to it after having a one on one with Matriach Benezia. Grr. Annoying. 

Edit: phone quotes suck

Modifié par Dorko525, 28 février 2012 - 10:22 .

[LadyCass]

It's nice to know I'm not the only one. But on the bright side, there's no way the "confrontation" could be anywhere near as bad as Jack/Ashley. I do have a few playthroughs to see how things will play out, too, a renegader who romanced Thane (only to have him die in the suicide mission *wince*) but my Shep with the big conundrum is my main/canonShep. It's funny because I honestly thought I'd obviously go for Garrus, but then I played the ME3 demo and poor Kaidan's sad "I used to" immediately made up for Horizon. Darn, I'm a big softie sometimes.

[Dorko525]

Sorry double post

Modifié par Dorko525, 28 février 2012 - 10:18 .

[kareatix]

yoshibb wrote...

AndersIsLush wrote...

I hate sad endings, but its what makes it good.

Sad endings are only good if the context around them makes sense and the build up is done right. If it's not right then it makes people angry not sad.

Fallout 3's ending is a perfect example, it is not sad because the context around it makes no sense. There is a mutant immune to radiation standing right behind me. But he can't do it because 'you are supposed to sacrifice yourself, stop poking holes in our cliched storyline and cry damnit!' 

There are not many people who actually can do a sad ending the right way.

Thiiiis, so much! To this day Fallout 3 ending constitutes the most epic facepalm moment in my gaming history. I hope ME3 endings will evoke emotions closer to what I felt after Virmire than after Fallout 3.

[Soccerchic6]

yoshibb wrote...


Sad endings are only good if the context around them makes sense and the build up is done right. If it's not right then it makes people angry not sad.

Fallout 3's ending is a perfect example, it is not sad because the context around it makes no sense. There is a mutant immune to radiation standing right behind me. But he can't do it because 'you are supposed to sacrifice yourself, stop poking holes in our cliched storyline and cry damnit!' 

There are not many people who actually can do a sad ending the right way.

This so much! I love Fallout 3 and while my LW didn't think twice about sacrificing herself (especially after the loss of her father), Fawkes was right there!  But oh well.  Happy thoughts, happy thoughts.  Kaidan in one week!!

[yoshibb]

ZehnWaters wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

AndersIsLush wrote...

I hate sad endings, but its what makes it good.

Sad endings are only good if the context around them makes sense and the build up is done right. If it's not right then it makes people angry not sad.

Fallout 3's ending is a perfect example, it is not sad because the context around it makes no sense. There is a mutant immune to radiation standing right behind me. But he can't do it because 'you are supposed to sacrifice yourself, stop poking holes in our cliched storyline and cry damnit!' 

There are not many people who actually can do a sad ending the right way.

Sounds like the ending to the movie Armegeddon.

True, but there were some things that made sense and you weren't left totally broken. The buildup with the father protecting the daughter and not totally trusting of the boyfriend had some impact when he gives up everything and essentially hands his daughter over to the boyfriend to be married. It at least built up to the point and while the sacrifice is made, the other people you connected with in the movie are still able to live out happy lives. 

Here's another example. I recently watched a movie called The Music Never Stops (spoilers if you never watched the movie and want to) In it the son has lost all memory and has basically become a zombie thanks to a brain tumor. The story is all about his father reconnecting with him through music that he hates because it is the only way to see his son come to life again and talk with him. In the end, his father takes him to a grateful dead concert in an effort to create a new memory with his father since music was his only connection to these memories. Afterwards, the father dies a few months later of a heart condition but at the funeral it's shown that the son remembers that concert with his father when a particular song is played.

Now imagine the father died right before the concert. Still sad right? Not in a good way but in a pointless way. Because you spent the whole movie watching these two try to rebuild a broken bond and in the end the father dies before he gets a chance to truly reconcile with his son. What would be the point of watching that movie? It's an epic waste of time and it makes you feel terrible after you leave the theater. 

Fiction does not work like realism. Fiction is a form of entertainment. If you want to write sad stories without a satisfying end then pick up a pen and paper and become a news reporter.

Modifié par yoshibb, 28 février 2012 - 10:23 .

[ZehnWaters]

yoshibb wrote...

ZehnWaters wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

AndersIsLush wrote...

I hate sad endings, but its what makes it good.

Sad endings are only good if the context around them makes sense and the build up is done right. If it's not right then it makes people angry not sad.

Fallout 3's ending is a perfect example, it is not sad because the context around it makes no sense. There is a mutant immune to radiation standing right behind me. But he can't do it because 'you are supposed to sacrifice yourself, stop poking holes in our cliched storyline and cry damnit!' 

There are not many people who actually can do a sad ending the right way.

Sounds like the ending to the movie Armegeddon.

True, but there were some things that made sense and you weren't left totally broken. The buildup with the father protecting the daughter and not totally trusting of the boyfriend had some impact when he gives up everything and essentially hands his daughter over to the boyfriend to be married. It at least built up to the point and while the sacrifice is made, the other people you connected with in the movie are still able to live out happy lives. 

Here's another example. I recently watched a movie called The Music Never Stops (spoilers if you never watched the movie and want to) In it the son has lost all memory and has basically become a zombie thanks to a brain tumor. The story is all about his father reconnecting with him through music that he hates because it is the only way to see his son come to life again and talk with him. In the end, his father takes him to a grateful dead concert in an effort to create a new memory with his father since music was his only connection to these memories. Afterwards, the father dies a few months later of a heart condition but at the funeral it's shown that the son remembers that concert with his father when a particular song is played.

Now imagine the father died right before the concert. Still sad right? Not in a good way but in a pointless way. Because you spent the whole movie watching these two try to rebuild a broken bond and in the end the father dies before he gets a chance to truly reconcile with his son. What would be the point of watching that movie? It's an epic waste of time and it makes you feel terrible after you leave the theater. 

Fiction does not work like realism. Fiction is a form of entertainment. If you want to write sad stories without a satisfying end then pick up a pen and paper and become a news reporter.

It's mostly that the Russian Cosmonaut was standing right there ready to sacrifice himself.  There was no need for either the BF or the father to sacrifice themselves.

[Quartz13]

O.O So happy with the Road to Happiness link. I was going into panic mode for a moment there. Oh and Hi All! I am a Kaidan lover! whose been mostly a lurker until now.

I am wondering something and have thought about it in my own head...more often than I should. o.o; What kind of 'ending' would you want for your Kaidan and Femshep? Okay not ending but conclusion? eh..same thing...different word.

Do you envision them going on to tackle more problems in the universe together? or any thing you can imagine.??

Personally, for my Shep Alice who was faithful to Kaidan. ( Jennsen my other shep got her some Garrus action!) I've pictured a whole wedding, with friends and family. And of course....Bewbies! Cute mini Sheps and Alenko's! Hee hee. I know, I am super cheesy and romantic. Lol.

Anyway, lets talk about our beloved Kaidan! and Squeee about being with him in ME3!

[Satanicponies]

passinjer wrote...

Satanicponies wrote...

passinjer wrote...

a more upbeat song. young blood - the naked and famous. 

I'm seeing them in April..... BE JEALOUS I COMMAND IT!

where are you seeing them to? jealous
this song makes me think of 'the art of flight'

They are coming to Columbus for a cheap show (5$) with walk the moon, reptar and the features. Foster the people come in june (got my tix) and im still deciding if I should see the shins

[dirae]

Gah. Spoilers? I've been trying to catch up with the boards and I feel like it's covered in landmines.

Trinity Shep wrote...

@Lethania Oh wow you chose not to save the council!?!? I saved them and here is why.. The other races arent going to want to help you if they think your pro human, when you kill the council a lot of aliens are mad at you but when you let them live everyone is so thankful except for Al-Jihani or whatever her name is.
So i chose to save the council so i would have more alien races come to my aid when i needed them since i came to theirs.

I saved the Council, even while I knew I'd regret it. When Al Jilani interviews her and Shep says something about 10,000 people aboard the Destiny Ascension I was surprised and relieved.  I mean, a lot of soldiers died on the alliance ships, but you gotta figure lots of civilians were on the DA, and if soldiers don't put civilians ahead of soldiers, whats the darn point?

ME1

Saved/Romanced Kaidan
Saved Wrex
Kirahi Died
Saved Rachi
Saved Coucil

ME2

Told the Quarians not to go to war (got that terrible note about them going to war anyways)
Regain Spectre status
Rewrote Geth
Blew Up Base
Miranda spoke to Sister
Jacob dad in prison
Stop Garrus from killing friend
Made Mordin keep the data
Zaeeds target got away and i punched him (still got loyalty!)
Let Kasumi keep the grey box (Im such a sucker for love)
Stopped Thanes son
Jack spared guys life
Grunt part of urdnot clan
Helped Liara with Shadowbroker
Everyone survived SM

ME1
Saved/Romanced Kaidan
Saved Wrex
Kirahi and salarians lived
Saved Rachi
Saved Coucil
Talked Talitha down
Convinced Toombs
Convinced Jeong

ME2
Told the Quarians not to go to war (got that terrible note about them going to war anyways)
Regain Spectre status
Killed Geth (My reasoning: they made choices based on their own religion. Rewriting them away from their religion would be, well, messed).
Blew Up Base
Miranda spoke to Sister
Jacob dad killed by castaways
Stop Garrus from killing Sidonis
Made Mordin delete data
Zaeeds target got away still gained loyalty
Deleted Kasumi's greybox for her
Stopped Thanes son
Jack spared guys life
Grunt part of urdnot clan
Helped Liara with Shadowbroker
Everyone survived SM

(SPOILER and venting) I'm sure lots of people are aware that Cerberus is indoctrinated in ME3 and that TIM has been indoctrinated for some time. But what surprises me is that people who gave him the base in ME2 don't notice he has the same blue mechanical eyes as Saren in ME1? Saren is pretty much a good template the indoctrinated threat. The last scenes with Saren his eyes are particularly blue and glowy.  Its NOT a subtle thread between them.

I can understand wanting to keep the collector base and data, and if it were an alliance operation i MIGHT be tempted. But that stuff goes to TIM.
Actually I have problems with Cerberus in the whole Mass Effect franchise,  simply for the fact that Bioware seems overly in love with Cerberus as a continuing theme. But whatevs.

*deep breath*
I preordered over the weekend and am frantically trying to finish my latest broshep playthrough. 

Modifié par dirae, 28 février 2012 - 10:37 .

[kellyofthemagi]

Hey I have a question for anyone willing to answer this. Im curious. I never got to play ME1, Could somone describe Kaidans personality. I only got to experience it shortly on Horizon and his letter to Shep in ME2.

[yoshibb]

kellyofthemagi wrote...

Hey I have a question for anyone willing to answer this. Im curious. I never got to play ME1, Could somone describe Kaidans personality. I only got to experience it shortly on Horizon and his letter to Shep in ME2.

This might help, a few Kaidan scenes from ME1

Modifié par yoshibb, 28 février 2012 - 10:43 .

[HowlingSiren]

Picking up on the "Memorable Moments" paragraph in Mac Walter's blog... This of course had me scrambling to try and remember which memorable locations Shep shared with Kaidan in ME1 that would appear again in ME3. I can't come up with anywhere but the Citadel Balcony and the Normandy, considering Shep seems to leave a trail of destruction in her wake. Can anyone think of any others?
And I wonder how they'll handle it. Hopefully not with some tree-clicking or statue-clicking or keeper-clicking à la DA:A.

[kellyofthemagi]

Why didn't I think of that, Thanks I'm kinda brain dead today.