Major Kaidan Alenko in ME3: We're going to need a bigger boot.
#301
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 02:28
#302
Guest_celticmoonbeams_*
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 02:30
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The 305,000 batarians from the Arrival? Evidence against Shep is shoddy at best but even if the Alliance were able to do anything, guess who comes knocking & destroying the place displaying the biggest "I told you so" ever conceived? I think Kaidan will understand. He is a normally logical, intelligent man. Just my personal opinion.
#303
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 02:33
You're right. Its FTL. And I know that you can travel 12 light years in one day on FTL. But I need to figure out generally how far the systems are from each other to know how long it would take to travel between them.NICKjnp wrote...
I don't think they travel with sunlight engines. They travel with FTL (faster than light) engines. My guess is a couple of hours to a couple of days.
#304
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 02:44
#305
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 03:06
celticmoonbeams wrote...
What crimes did Shep commit? Shep doesn't commit any crime while working with or, more accurately, alongside grudgingly w/Cerberus but, if Shep got reinstated as a Spectre, the Council knows about it & wishes for "good luck in your investigation and for a speedy resolution to your relationship w/Cerberus. The Council writes off on it & they are who Shep answers to which the Alliance tends to forget A LOT. The Council countermands anything the Alliance can say about that.
The 305,000 batarians from the Arrival? Evidence against Shep is shoddy at best but even if the Alliance were able to do anything, guess who comes knocking & destroying the place displaying the biggest "I told you so" ever conceived? I think Kaidan will understand. He is a normally logical, intelligent man. Just my personal opinion.
Tbh, I think the Council was looking for an excuse to get rid of Shepard for one reason or another. It was obvious from all the way back in ME1 that they didn't trust or like Shepard, despite all that Shep did for them. They can't have someone questioning their supreme wisdom yaddayadda.
Then again, I'm anti-Council so
#306
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 03:22
Jade5233 wrote...
I had a question that I need to help with a fan fic and thought perhaps you all might be able to help. Any idea of how far star systems are apart from each other within the same mass effect relay area? Like in how many light years? I was trying to get an idea of how long it would take to travel from one to the other on sublight engines. (I know that travel from ME relay to another is instantaneous).
I can't remember where I found it, but I remember reading that it took approx. 30 hrs to get from Eden Prime to the Citadel. After the events on Eden Prime and Shepard gets knocked-out by the beacon, the Normandy heads for the Citadel. Shepard lies recovering in the med-lab for 15 hrs according to Dr. Chakwas. The source where I found this info said that the Normandy was half way to the Citadel by the time Shepard woke up (15hrs x 2 = 30hrs). I'll try to find where I read this...<_<
I hope this helps!
#307
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 03:52
celticmoonbeams wrote...
What crimes did Shep commit? Shep doesn't commit any crime while working with or, more accurately, alongside grudgingly w/Cerberus but, if Shep got reinstated as a Spectre, the Council knows about it & wishes for "good luck in your investigation and for a speedy resolution to your relationship w/Cerberus. The Council writes off on it & they are who Shep answers to which the Alliance tends to forget A LOT. The Council countermands anything the Alliance can say about that.
The 305,000 batarians from the Arrival? Evidence against Shep is shoddy at best but even if the Alliance were able to do anything, guess who comes knocking & destroying the place displaying the biggest "I told you so" ever conceived? I think Kaidan will understand. He is a normally logical, intelligent man. Just my personal opinion.
The Arrival thing, but also there are several questionable things Shepard does throughout ME2, evidence can be brought up whether you paragoned or renegaded. Like converting the Geth, helping Garrus kill Sidonis, working with Aria, killing a fellow Spectre, etc. It depends on if the trial is just about Arrival or if they are going to bring up anything else. For whatever reason Casey Hudson is very cryptic about exactly why Shepard is on trial. He may have just been referring to Arrival but I wonder if more will be brought to the table. When it comes to character evidence, they can reach as far back as ME1. Some in the Alliance and Council thinks Shepard is at best out of control or crazy at worst.
Getting back on topic: Kaidan was very upset about just the rumors of Shepard's return and connection with Cerberus. I dunno that he will be exactly cool with 300k civilians killed, regardless of Shepard intendions. I'm not saying he would be mad, but I can see him demanding "WTF Shepard?!"
#308
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 03:54
#309
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 04:02
ladyofpayne wrote...
Is he for MShep?
Same sex relationships have been confirmed to be in for ME3, but there has not been any indication of whether Kaidan or any other returning characters are going to be available as same sex love interests.
#310
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 04:10

Deviant Art
#311
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 04:13
CrimsonNephilim wrote...
It's going to be interesting how Shep and Kaidan go about making orders with Alenko being a higher rank and Shepard being the Commanding Officer/Captain of the Normandy XD
It sure will be. Especially if the Normandy is Kaidan's ship, which I think there has been rumours about.
Would Shepard still be calling the shots? And who would get the last say if they disagreed on how to handle a mission?
#312
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 04:17
#313
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 04:54
This. And since I'm as anti-Alliance as anti-Council (chaotic good ftw!), here are some "crimes" person like Udina may accuse Shepard in:fortunesque wrote...
celticmoonbeams wrote...
What crimes did Shep commit? Shep doesn't commit any crime while working with or, more accurately, alongside grudgingly w/Cerberus but, if Shep got reinstated as a Spectre, the Council knows about it & wishes for "good luck in your investigation and for a speedy resolution to your relationship w/Cerberus. The Council writes off on it & they are who Shep answers to which the Alliance tends to forget A LOT. The Council countermands anything the Alliance can say about that.
The 305,000 batarians from the Arrival? Evidence against Shep is shoddy at best but even if the Alliance were able to do anything, guess who comes knocking & destroying the place displaying the biggest "I told you so" ever conceived? I think Kaidan will understand. He is a normally logical, intelligent man. Just my personal opinion.
Tbh, I think the Council was looking for an excuse to get rid of Shepard for one reason or another. It was obvious from all the way back in ME1 that they didn't trust or like Shepard, despite all that Shep did for them. They can't have someone questioning their supreme wisdom yaddayadda.
Then again, I'm anti-Council so
-destroying the prothean beacon on Eden Prime ("it's your fault you team have triggered it. Can you imagine which discovers may be done...)
-destroying prothean ruins on Therum
-letting go the species capable of creating galaxy-wide catastrophe/dissolving the only living specimen of those
-*killing off guardsmen on Noveria
-killing the asari matriarch and trying to damage the diplomacy between asari respublics and Alliance ("indoctrination which indoctrination? Shepard, you're insane!")
-killing the only living specimen. Again ("You already worked for Cerberus and tried to cover their crimes! Or Exo-Geni. Doesn't matter")
-*wiping off colony
-nuking garden planet Virmire
-stealing the prototype warship
-fraternization:wub:
-killing the true hero Saren Artherius (see Anderson's dossier in LotSB)
-killing Council to insure humans' dominance/sacrificing humans to appeal to aliens
-working for Cerberus
-kidnapping colonies ("we don't know any Collectors! Even if we know, they're working for you!")
-stealing the blueprints of prototype warship
-*stealing the data incide Grey Box
-genocide to entire species. Again.
-*working for the Shadow Broker
-*becoming a leader of Geth
-*working for Aria
-*researching the cure for genophage
-* giving Collectors' base to Cerberus
-wiping off entire star system
I very, very looking forward to see Kaidan's face when he'll hear all this
#314
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 05:03
jeweledleah wrote...
I think majority of the trial would be about Shepard working for a known terrorist organization and official enemy of the council. and while in trial, they will bring up Shepards past actions as character reference - thus giving old players an overview of their character's choices, and new players - opportunity to chose outcomes.
That seems very likely, yes.
#315
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 05:26
Annaka wrote...
CrimsonNephilim wrote...
It's going to be interesting how Shep and Kaidan go about making orders with Alenko being a higher rank and Shepard being the Commanding Officer/Captain of the Normandy XD
It sure will be. Especially if the Normandy is Kaidan's ship, which I think there has been rumours about.
Would Shepard still be calling the shots? And who would get the last say if they disagreed on how to handle a mission?
OH HECK NO!!!! The Normandy is Shepard's ship...I could possible understand Anderson taking over (since it was his ship first...and the fact that he outranks Shepard...in the Alliance anyway), but Kaidan?
My Shepard is deeply and madly in love w/ Kaidan but there are bounderies...and that would seriously be crossing them. Shepard's the one who has risked everything this entire time, has had to make all the hard decisions and be the one to face the consequnces of those choices. S/he didn't asked to be brought back by Cerberus, or face the suspicion and ridicule that comes with that association. Shepard's doing her/his best...and taking the Normandy would be infuriating:O:O:O. But from a writers point of view, would make for and interesting dynamic and excellent dialogue....hmmmmm<_<
#316
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 05:46
#317
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 05:54
Nice artMarqueAZ wrote...
My humble contribution!Cant wait to get it signed by Sbarge next week at ABQ Comic Expo. Who else is going? He's also doing a panel on VAing.
Deviant Art
And you get to see Sbarge at a con? I didn't know he did any. I'm envious. (And my husband is probably thankful
And thanks Crimson Rose. That does help.
#318
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 05:59
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This. And since I'm as anti-Alliance as anti-Council (chaotic good ftw!), here are some "crimes" person like Udina may accuse Shepard in:
-destroying the prothean beacon on Eden Prime ("it's your fault you team have triggered it. Can you imagine which discovers may be done...)
-destroying prothean ruins on Therum
-letting go the species capable of creating galaxy-wide catastrophe/dissolving the only living specimen of those
-*killing off guardsmen on Noveria
-killing the asari matriarch and trying to damage the diplomacy between asari respublics and Alliance ("indoctrination which indoctrination? Shepard, you're insane!")
-killing the only living specimen. Again ("You already worked for Cerberus and tried to cover their crimes! Or Exo-Geni. Doesn't matter")
-*wiping off colony
-nuking garden planet Virmire
-stealing the prototype warship
-fraternization:wub:
-killing the true hero Saren Artherius (see Anderson's dossier in LotSB)
-killing Council to insure humans' dominance/sacrificing humans to appeal to aliens
-working for Cerberus
-kidnapping colonies ("we don't know any Collectors! Even if we know, they're working for you!")
-stealing the blueprints of prototype warship
-*stealing the data incide Grey Box
-genocide to entire species. Again.
-*working for the Shadow Broker
-*becoming a leader of Geth
-*working for Aria
-*researching the cure for genophage
-* giving Collectors' base to Cerberus
-wiping off entire star system
I very, very looking forward to see Kaidan's face when he'll hear all this
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Kaidan loves you regardless, he can't help it
#319
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 06:30
Amratis wrote...
Mesina2 wrote...
Anyway this is very interesting to read.
Good points made here - I hope someone from Bioware read's that and takes note.
Yes some good points, but some do not appeal to me. Which I wrote there
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Modifié par DevilYoko, 15 juin 2011 - 06:39 .
#320
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 06:38
1. What happened to the Rachni
2. Who did you save on Virmire
2a. (maybe) - Did you kill Wrex?
3. Did you save the council or let them die
4. Working with Cerberus
5. What happened to the Collector Base
6. Blowing up a whole star system
Things they might mention
1. Genophage
2. Tali's Trial
3. Geth Base
4. Shadow Broker
#321
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 07:17
Actually, the trial could replace the comic. If Shep had to first confess/retell all he's done with the judge asking additional question. Smartly written, it could cover all the important choices and have it done in-game instead of comic!daigakuinsei wrote...
The trial = functional equivalent of the shuttle ride at the beginning of ME2. It's to remind you of what happened in your previous saves because people have multiple playthroughs and it's been a while. My guess of what they'll bring up:
#322
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 08:01
The trial = functional equivalent of the shuttle ride at the beginning of ME2. It's to remind you of what happened in your previous saves because people have multiple playthroughs and it's been a while. My guess of what they'll bring up:[/quote]
Actually, the trial could replace the comic. If Shep had to first confess/retell all he's done with the judge asking additional question. Smartly written, it could cover all the important choices and have it done in-game instead of comic!
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Maybe. But I looked at videos of the comics and I think Genesis did retell the story really well even if they missed Feros. They were more like handholding the new players into ME universe. I mean when I first played ME, I did not play any big, major games. I played bits of MMOs here and there, but I was not ready for the quality of cutscenes and dramatic storytelling in ME1. I was at first shocked when I stared at the character creation screen.
So maybe if it is really smartly written then the comic can be replaced, but personally I don't think it a good idea to suddenly hit people in middle of a dramatic trial to think about decisions. The smoothing voice of respective gender Shepard, and well-paced tone of Genesis can give brand new players some space. THEN hit them really hard with all the difficult choices they have to make.
Modifié par rpgfan321, 15 juin 2011 - 08:01 .
#323
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 08:10
I mean do you think they'd just 'invite' Shepard via message to come back for the trial?!
or would they send the VS/still with the Alliance/new human Spectre to bring Shepard in ...
as the one playing Shepard I'd hate it, but as a fan of the games and hoping for some friction between the characters I'd look forward to it oddly enough ...
#324
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 08:22
I wonder if they have orders from the Council to 'terminate' Shepard. I mean s/he did kill Vasir, a fellow Spectre.
And killed off a system which can be pretty much considered a terrorist attack. With Shepard's standing with Cerberus, the Council whether you saved them or not could go all court on Shepard's case.
I mean last time I remember Spectres killing one another happened in ME1 with Saren and Nihlus and then with Shepard with Saren.
But then the Reapers would come and doubt would begin to eat away at everyone who thought Shepard was insane, no?
Also I don't think Shepard would just start at the Trial, or could, but I hope it doesn't because I want some of that tense moment in the beginning that the Reapers are coming, but the rest of the galaxy at large is concerned about condemning Shepard. That would be intense for the players knowing what is going to happen and everything starts to explode after like 30 min? Getting a call or e-mail from Alliance to come to Earth I think will be anticlimatic since Shepard knows s/he has to go there anyway. I am kind of expecting some Alliance soldiers with guns with a polite face to come and say you need to come with us.
And my Shepard will punch any Alliance face (with some exceptions, not Udina though that guy is an ass) if they harm EDI in anyway!
#325
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 08:23
It's not about he'll be shocked - he definitely will, though, - but he was there when the half of listed things was going on (especially fraternization:P, although my usual squad always was Kaidan/Wrex or Kaidan/Garrus) and may compare what really happened and what politics say. And may make conclusion who is trustworthy when the ME2 part will be under considerationArcana wrote...
Kaidan loves you regardless, he can't help it





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