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#33101
Nammyee

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I know what I'm going to say it's strange, but one of the endings, reminded me a lot of Xenosaga III;
But in that game, the ending felt good enough. :(

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mechalynx wrote...

The ending I want follows the "Destroy" where Shepard lives. S/he pulls herself feebly out of the rubble, walks out of the darkness to see the Citadel crashed just off the coast of Dover. Lots of shuttles flying around, s/he flags on of them down. The shuttle takes Shep to the current military HQ, lots of candid shots of massive destruction, people crying with grief/joy, pulling out corpses/survivors out of various wreckages. Shep just stares blankly, no emotion whatsoever. The shuttle lands, a medic rushes up to meet him/her only t be brushed off. S/he stumbles ahead over to some makeshift tent or a building that hasn't been ground to dust. There are important looking people running around. S/he's led over to a group, circled around Hackett, who doesn't see Shep at first. Hackett looks up, shock plastered on his face, smiles, then slowly steps aside to reveal the two teammates Shep brought (one of these very preferably a LI). Looks are exchanged, Shep exhales slowly and smiles. Fade to black. credits roll.

No dialogue. The entire sequence set to Faunts - M4, part 2 or "From Wreckage"


This would be so much better! So much better.

#33103
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I think business wise, if Bioware wants people to play ANY dlc for ME3, logically they should know that they'll have better luck getting people to pay for them if they release a Alt Ending DLC.

They way the games end right now, any future DLC to me would be pointless and not worth getting because in the end it'll feel like it was for nothing. Shepard either dies or is separated from the crew permanently. With endings like that, why would I want to spend money on DLC that isn't going to change that.

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WHERE'S KAIDAN!???...:(.....I can't find him, he has left the hospital and I have searched the whole of the Citadel for him....where is he?....I thought he was meant to be a permanent Normandy squaddie?

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Golden Owl wrote...

WHERE'S KAIDAN!???...:(.....I can't find him, he has left the hospital and I have searched the whole of the Citadel for him....where is he?....I thought he was meant to be a permanent Normandy squaddie?


Don't worry.  There's a long dry spell where you won't see him until you advance the main plot far enough. At that point, he'll turn up again.

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frylock23 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

WHERE'S KAIDAN!???...:(.....I can't find him, he has left the hospital and I have searched the whole of the Citadel for him....where is he?....I thought he was meant to be a permanent Normandy squaddie?


Don't worry.  There's a long dry spell where you won't see him until you advance the main plot far enough. At that point, he'll turn up again.

Thank you frylock, I had been getting quite worried, wondering if there was something I hadn't done, etc...

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frylock23 wrote...
There's a long dry spell

*snrk*

But more seriously: if Bioware releases an alt ending DLC, I bet even more of the fanbase would be up in arms (compared to the From Ashes DLC) about Bioware shipping an incomplete game and charging players to make it complete (after all, it would tie in directly with the main events of the game).

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CrimsonNephilim wrote...

I think business wise, if Bioware wants people to play ANY dlc for ME3, logically they should know that they'll have better luck getting people to pay for them if they release a Alt Ending DLC.

They way the games end right now, any future DLC to me would be pointless and not worth getting because in the end it'll feel like it was for nothing. Shepard either dies or is separated from the crew permanently. With endings like that, why would I want to spend money on DLC that isn't going to change that.



Thats EXACTLY how I feel. Why bother getting DLC...I would pay full price for a DLC/Expansion if it continued it just a bit more to see the "clean up / reunion" As it stands I can't see the purpose of DLC at all.
BUT... how would they do it anyway... isn't shepard dead in most endings? Doesnt seem at this point that its possible. Unless you played as one of your crew and found Shep at the end... I dont know... lol
Didnt one of the devs say that would never do a DLC that was after the end?

EDIT: I really love the N7 Hoodie. She wears it everywhere :happy:

Modifié par Ianthia, 09 mars 2012 - 01:02 .


#33109
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CrimsonNephilim wrote...

If we make enough noise on the forums for a better ending maybe it'll light a fire under Bioware to make an Alt. Ending DLC. It's a long shot, but it never hurts to try. Especially for a company that constantly states that they listen to their fanbase.


There was a spoiler thread about the endings that got over 80 pages in 24 hours.  Before the game was even officially released, and before people played it, there was that response. At this point, they HAVE to listen to their fans - that thread is now at 571 pages after 9 days.  Complaints about the endings are all over the spoiler sections.  Fans have spoken, and are pissed.

It has nothing to do with wanting sunshine and bunnies happy end (considering everything else going on in the game universe that's not happening by any stretch), it's more like "cut Shepard a farkin' break".

As much as I am loving this game, I'm taking my sweet ass time because of the dreaded endings.  I haven't even been to Palaven yet (started a new Shep, then started/deleted/restarted Vyan thrice).  And, not sure if it would be considered a spoiler, but if you start a fresh Shepard vs. an imported romanced Shepard, there is dialog missing from conversations.  That really wowed me.  SPOILER: And Kaidan on Mars saying "Don't you 'Kaidan' me, this is business" - OH SNAP!

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#33110
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Yeah, Mac Walters said that there probably won't be any post-ending DLC but there will be pre-ending DLC.

Still, why bother buying any DLC that takes place before the end of the game if it isn't going to do anything? Shepard will still die or be separated from the crew. So why should I spend money on ME3 dlc if that's still going to happen?

Give us a alt. ending DLC and I'll gladly give them my money for it, otherwise I'm done with ME3 after the romance conclusion and there is no fraking way I'm going to buy any dlc that comes out for ME3 unless it gives us a better ending <_<.  Sorry Bioware, but yeah, me no give u moar monies until we getz better endings! 

Modifié par CrimsonNephilim, 09 mars 2012 - 01:06 .


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lietk12 wrote...

frylock23 wrote...
There's a long dry spell

*snrk*

But more seriously: if Bioware releases an alt ending DLC, I bet even more of the fanbase would be up in arms (compared to the From Ashes DLC) about Bioware shipping an incomplete game and charging players to make it complete (after all, it would tie in directly with the main events of the game).


So would I... after whipping out my wallet and laying down some cash. I will be as indignant as I please as long as Shepard is happy.

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CrimsonNephilim wrote...

Didnt one of the devs say that would never do a DLC that was after the end?


That was before, when they assumed everyone was going to be okay with their endings. I'm sure if people make an issue out of the endings (politely), they may change their minds.  I really hope they do :C

#33113
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CrimsonNephilim wrote...

I think business wise, if Bioware wants people to play ANY dlc for ME3, logically they should know that they'll have better luck getting people to pay for them if they release a Alt Ending DLC.

They way the games end right now, any future DLC to me would be pointless and not worth getting because in the end it'll feel like it was for nothing. Shepard either dies or is separated from the crew permanently. With endings like that, why would I want to spend money on DLC that isn't going to change that.


Exactly. There is no point.

Though a "Take Back Omega" DLC would be tempting....I still rather have an Alt. ending DLC any day. Plus my money talks so why give it when I feel like I was cheated?

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how messed up is it that i'm genuinely upset about the way me3 ended. not angry but like depressed or something.

for a story that, to me, was so personal (not just some dude you go around killing people with) bioware sure ended it in the worst way possible.

and poor kaidan!!! shepard dies, he's heart broken. shepard comes back, he's angry but still loves her. gets back together with shepard she dies!! how is any one supposed to deal with that?!?!?

also, i agree with CrimsonNephilim No More Moneys!!!

we should start a no more money till we get a better ending thread.B)

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Even worse, he'll never know that she's never coming back. He'll always wonder if she's dead or if she's on Earth heartbroken because they are eternally separated.

I mean, COME ON!!! Its bad enough Shepard died once, but to tear them apart like that twice? That's just fraking cruel to no end. Even a real person would be torn apart by that. Broken Heart Syndrome for crying out loud!

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CrimsonNephilim wrote...

Even worse, he'll never know that she's never coming back. He'll always wonder if she's dead or if she's on Earth heartbroken because they are eternally separated.

I mean, COME ON!!! Its bad enough Shepard died once, but to tear them apart like that twice? That's just fraking cruel to no end. Even a real person would be torn apart by that. Broken Heart Syndrome for crying out loud!



i might cry over this. just thinking about it is so flipping sad!!!!:crying:

how could they possibly think that ANYONE would like the ending?! i havent seen a single person go 'hmm i think that was a good way to end this series.' people are either mad that they didnt get their happily ever after with their LI or shepard was supposed to be invinsible, and bioware said betch please

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 Saw this elsewhere:

www.youtube.com/watch

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CrimsonNephilim wrote...

Even worse, he'll never know that she's never coming back. He'll always wonder if she's dead or if she's on Earth heartbroken because they are eternally separated.

I mean, COME ON!!! Its bad enough Shepard died once, but to tear them apart like that twice? That's just fraking cruel to no end. Even a real person would be torn apart by that. Broken Heart Syndrome for crying out loud!


I would buy the sunshine and bunnies/lollipops and rainbows ending for my Shep and Kaidan.  I am dragging my feet so hard playing this game because I just DON'T want to get to the end......

Modifié par Kaidan Fan, 09 mars 2012 - 01:51 .


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I've said this before, but I couldn't even start my canon fShep because knowing the endings ruined it for me. So I've got new game Sheploo, and I am slogging through the game. And you're right for such an awesome game, to not even have a tiny bit more hope really saddens me. I want my happy ending. Or at least the one where I know the Normandy and it's crew are good. I was fine with Shep dying, as much as it might pain Kaidan.

On the other hand, I can't hand wave/head canon around the endings. I really need something official from BioWare. We need to make a big enough noise so that something gets changed.

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mechalynx wrote...

 Saw this elsewhere:

www.youtube.com/watch


I agree with that video.  I feel like BioWare is sitting around in their big ol' offices, rolling around in our money, laughing at our pain....

#33121
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I purposely restarted my ME3 pt several times because I was dreading the endings. I'm actually very happy right now to be replaying ME2 just so I can get Kelly to feed my fish because it means I won't have to touch ME3 for a few days.

The longer it takes me to pick up ME3 that happier I'll be. Once I do, I'll play until the romance climax and then I'm out. ME3 CE and the CE guide will just become a nice little center piece for my coffee table until we get alt. endings.

Modifié par CrimsonNephilim, 09 mars 2012 - 02:06 .


#33122
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CrimsonNephilim wrote...

I purposely restarted my ME3 pt several times because I was dreading the endings. I'm actually very happy right now to be replaying ME2 just so I can get Kelly to feed my fish because it means I won't have to touch ME3 for a few days.

The longer it takes me to pick up ME3 that happier I'll be. Once I do, I'll play until the romance climax and then I'm out. ME3 CE and the CE guide will just become a nice little center piece for my coffee table until we get alt. endings.


Yeah, I had bought and paid for my CE months and months ago.  Now I will probably never finish the game.  So much for those 7 playthroughs I had ready to go   :(:crying:

Edit: The one plus for all this is Kaidan is super dooper hawtness!  :wub:

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#33123
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I would buy the sunshine and bunnies/lollipops and rainbows ending for my Shep and Kaidan.  I am dragging my feet so hard playing this game because I just DON'T want to get to the end......


This, so very much this.  People complain about the practice of DLC - well it's here to stay.  Might as well make it something worthwhile.  There is a legit complaint of "why pay for the rest of the game", and they're right.  Yet, people will still pay for things inconsequential to the game.  Appearance packs are nice, weapon packs are nice, new squadmates or maps are nice.  However, this above all else (a Fix The Fu-Damned Ending DLC) is MORE than worth it.

And seconded on buying it. I would pay for an improved ending because it's something that I want.  I bought the freaking sparklepony in WoW because it was something I wanted.  I want my Shepards to have the option to be Big Damn Heroes and ride Kaidan off into the sunset.  Offer the option, and everyone's happy.  Those that want it get it, those that want grimdark end get it by default.

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OMG!!! What a emotional roller coaster from hell. I don't think I've ever cried that much ever<_< Screw the endings as well that pisses me off more than anything. I knew this was the ending of Shepard story but I didn't know they literally meant that. I'm not buying the download anything. For me I would have Kaidan and Shepard die together in eachothers arms that would be ok with me. Or take him with me again knowing he would die since well I'm gonna die too at least I can imagine we would see eachother again when I died. Leaving him behind? I just can't imagine letting him wonder the rest of his life if I was dead that is just cruel. I don't know if he could handle it again. I'm sticking to Dragon Age from now on at least I have an option of being semi-happy. The love scene was perfect:wub: I probably won't play it after the Illusive Man's base mission is over. That way I can write my own ending in my head.

/rant over

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Pax of Doom wrote...

Kaidan Fan wrote...
I would buy the sunshine and bunnies/lollipops and rainbows ending for my Shep and Kaidan.  I am dragging my feet so hard playing this game because I just DON'T want to get to the end......


This, so very much this.  People complain about the practice of DLC - well it's here to stay.  Might as well make it something worthwhile.  There is a legit complaint of "why pay for the rest of the game", and they're right.  Yet, people will still pay for things inconsequential to the game.  Appearance packs are nice, weapon packs are nice, new squadmates or maps are nice.  However, this above all else (a Fix The Fu-Damned Ending DLC) is MORE than worth it.

And seconded on buying it. I would pay for an improved ending because it's something that I want.  I bought the freaking sparklepony in WoW because it was something I wanted.  I want my Shepards to have the option to be Big Damn Heroes and ride Kaidan off into the sunset.  Offer the option, and everyone's happy.  Those that want it get it, those that want grimdark end get it by default.


Just quoting you because all that you said is true.  If you don't want happiness for your Shep...don't buy the DLC if they ever offer it.  For those of us that do want it, we have the option of buying.  And I would SO buy that DLC so fast BioWare would'nt even know what hit them  :lol:

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