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[Lady Jess]

OK I need help, Where is Kaidan as you're saying goodbye to everyone on your way to Andersn's position? I don't want o go ahead if I need to backtrack.

[Jean]

If you've talked to that guy that patches you through to Grunt, Samara, ect, he's right outside that door by a few other soldiers.
It's on the right side

[PopDisaster]

Lady Jess wrote...

OK I need help, Where is Kaidan as you're saying goodbye to everyone on your way to Andersn's position? I don't want o go ahead if I need to backtrack.

He is outside the room where the transmissions/communications to other squad members are. He should be the first one you see after James. He's on the corner talking on a phone?

[Lady Jess]

BAH! I walked right past him ok backtracking, thanks guys!!

[PopDisaster]

During the game, I took Kaidan on every mission... was anyone upset that he never "saved" Shep? It was always Liara or Tali pulling you up form the "fatal falls." I thought it was kinda lame.

[Elessie]

PopDisaster wrote...

During the game, I took Kaidan on every mission... was anyone upset that he never "saved" Shep? It was always Liara or Tali pulling you up form the "fatal falls." I thought it was kinda lame.

I did, but then I felt like his dialogue when you take him to TIM's base and watch the Lazarus project logs kind of made up for it.

[PopDisaster]

I did like the "You're real enough for me." line. That was good. :]

[CrimsonNephilim]

 I would play ME3 if we were given this in the game or as a DLC

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AnttiV wrote...

Second, to put my "money" where my mouth is, how would *I* have done it. What would be, in my opinion, better endings to the epic tale:

Here goes, my take on what (approximately) the ME3 ending should've been / what would've made it (imo) better / suggestions.

Instead of the Three Choices™ that result in approx. same situation, there should've been FIVE choices.
(Paragon getting more detailing than others, since I almost exclusively play 100% Paragon)

1) Destroy (the "good" ending, but without enough reputation/Paragon).
2) Merge (I don't really have an opinion about this)
3) Control (the "renegade" ending, but without enough reputation/Renegade).
4) (in red, Max Renegade) Use Citadel/Crucible/Guardian as a combined weapon. (available only with Max Assets)
5) (in blue, Max Paragon) Shut down Guardian, repurpose VI and zap the reapers. (available only with Max Assets)

Case 1)
* Destroy the reapers
* Relay network destroyed, other races' fleets probably stranded on Sol
* Depending on War Assests Earth survives/is destroyed, same for Shepard. Enough assests gets you living Shepard and Earth.
* With low enough Assets, the resulting explosion destroys Normandy, we see it crashing down towards earth. Crew that Shepard had with him/her is dead.
* With adequate Assets, we see Normandy making an emergency landing on earth after getting hit by flying debris, some crew members might die, depending on rep or somesuch.
* With good Assests, We see Normandy landing on earth (some crew might still be dead), Crew that was with shepard alive, they (all together) give funeral to Shepard.
* Max Assests, we see Normandy landing and the crew that was with Shepard (plus LI if wasn't in the crew) digging Shep out of a rubble or something, Shep clearly alive.


Case 2)
* I don't really have an opinion, might be same as it is, but please no random Normandy FTL/Jump/Crash. Derive from Case 1, but with crew half synthetic. Shep might need to die in any case, but prefer if with Max assests we see Shep alive in the end.


Case 3)
* Take control of the reapers
* Relay network destroyed, other races' fleets probably stranded on Sol
* Depending on War Assests Earth survives/is destroyed, same for Shepard. Enough assests gets you living Shepard and Earth.
* Low assests, Shep commands Reapers to leave, but they destroy Citadel/Relays, explosion kills almost everybody. Fleets, Normandy, Shep, Planets close to Relays.
* Adequate Assets, Shep commands Reapers to leave, but they destroy Relay network. Explosion kills fleets, shep, planets close to Relays. We see Normandy crash-land, someone walks out alive.
* Good Assets, Shep commands Reapers to leave, they destroy Relays. explosion kills most of the fleet and planets close to relats. we see Normandy making an emergency landing to earth, some of the crew alive, perhaps LI mourning Shep and holding a picture/piece of armor.
* Max Assets, Shep either commands the reapers to to leave, which leads to destruction of the Relays, or leaves his/her body behind and becomes one of the reapers and then commanding them to leave, perhaps destroying only the citadel. Normandy lands on earth and crew comes out. If Shep chose to stay, they dig Shep out of a rubble with LI leading the digging. If Shep turned into a reaper, crew and LI talking to a VI-like projection of Shep-Reaper who says she/he'll lead the Reapers into the Darkspace. For Now.


Case 4)
* Shep "kills" Guardian and reprograms/repurposes the thing and uses it as a weapon to target the Relay Network and destroy reapers.
* Willingly destroys Relays and dooms almost all other races to save Earth
* Planets near Relays destroyed, Alien fleets stranded on Sol, but resulting burst of energy from the combined weapon destroys almost every ship in the fleets
* we see Normandy landing on earth, crew walking out (depending on some factors, some of them may be dead).
* EDI & Geth destroyed in the burst, we see Joker mourning EDI, if he wasn't killed himself.
* Shep standing on some ruins together with LI, perhaps holding blueprints of a future city / FTL drive / mass relay.
* Life, for humans, will continue, other races crippled perhaps beyond salvation, Shep and LI alive.

Case 5)
* Shep makes Guardian shutdown/alter itself to be used as a blast to shutdown reapers.
* can't do everything there, need to hit switches / hack computers in different places of citadel. Perhaps with time limit (although I detest time limits).
* each switch/hack location is defended by reaper forces, depending on what choices Shep has made during the game(s), different things happen
- Saved Rachni: On one location, a group of Rachni Warriors join shep and help attack the reaper forces
- Have Turians on board: on the way to one location, Turian Dreadnoughts fire through cracks in citadel and destroy a large part of defending force.
- Really saved Krogan (told about sabotage): on the way to one location a group of Krogan blast through a wall and assault a large reaper force, allowing Shep to make a straighter and faster way towards the location, saving much time.
- Saved Quarians or Geth: At one location, Quarians/Geth launch an EMP attack from outside the citadel, disabling a large part of defending force.
- If both Geth AND Quarians saved: At above location, the force is Quarians. At another location, Geth drive a ship to the Citadel and upload themselves to some inactive guard robots onboard of Citadel and help Shep to dispose of the defenders.
* When all switching/hacking is finished, Shep goes (races to, perhaps, depending on how long the activities took) back to the "Guardian Console" and can use the device.
* Choice: 
- either use the pulse to shut down the Relay network and the Reapers with raw power (and thus disabling Geth and EDI in the process). With power going down, the reapers use the relays to escape back to darkspace. Relays shut down one after the other as the fleeing reapers use the last of their power to keep themselves running and go away. For Now.
- Or, sacrifice most of humanity to draw power from Sun/Earth to boost the operating power of the device and allow greater finess of the system. Resulting pulse shuts down, immediately, every reaper across the galaxy. But as the power was more refined, EDI and the Geth can be saved. Relays shut down as the pulse works throught them, but it is hinted that they only need to be restarted for them to work again. With sufficient unified effort by the now saved galaxy, the relays could be up and running in a few years or somesuch.
* Earth is show desolate, with some population. Not quite unlike Tuchanka. Life goes on in the Galaxy and everywhere statues and memorials are raised to remember what sacrifice humans made for everyone else to continue living.
* Humans are not wiped out, colonies remain and even on earth there are still population, but it will take years and years for humans to rise up to the power they were.
* We see Normandy crew (not LI) standing on some large capital ship, perhaps with Hackett/Anderson, watching out into the deep space.
* We hear LI or Shep voice over "It would be so easy for one ship to just.. get lost in the stars."
* Cut to scene where Shep sits somewhere, watching the stars above. LI walks to Shep's side and puts a hand on his/her shoulder. Both turn to face downwards, looking at the tummy of whichever of them is female. (impying she's pregnant.)

That last paragon ending is really what I wanted/expected from the games. There is sooo much buildup to something like that, and then it all falls flat in the end. But, that's just my opinion. (although all the games have allowed MY opinion and MY choices, except the very end, which was a rail-road journey.) But, have at it, I just needed to get that out. 

I would LOVE an ending like the last one, minus the pregnancy since we have no idea if Femshep can even get pregnant anymoresince she did die.

[keekee53]

Elessie wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Is there a point that the date with Kaidan gets locked out? I'm about to finish this run, and rerun it. And I think half my frustration with the romance was my accidently hitting that date too early. I had no idea it was coming, I just saw Kaidan sitting there and clicked on him...boom date. I'd like to hold it off until later this time but not miss it completely.

The same thing happened to me, then I noticed afterwards during one of the clicky non-cutscene convos when he is in the crew quarters, he invites Shepard to grab some food on the Citadel.  Was like, er, we already did that....

LOL I am so silly...I thought I was getting a second date.  So of course I went back to the Citadel only to find out I was eating alone.

[sanmar]

Spoiler about endings (highlight):
 I haven't finished my game, but I know the endings since last week. At first I didn't want believe it, but now... 
I think headcanon would not be enough for me, hopefully they are fixing some things.

Show your support on polls and give your feedback on Bioware!

We must fight!
 

Modifié par sanmar, 09 mars 2012 - 07:04 .

[frylock23]

OMG! Did anyone else walk in on Garrus and Tali making out? lol

[PopDisaster]

keekee53 wrote...

Elessie wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Is there a point that the date with Kaidan gets locked out? I'm about to finish this run, and rerun it. And I think half my frustration with the romance was my accidently hitting that date too early. I had no idea it was coming, I just saw Kaidan sitting there and clicked on him...boom date. I'd like to hold it off until later this time but not miss it completely.

The same thing happened to me, then I noticed afterwards during one of the clicky non-cutscene convos when he is in the crew quarters, he invites Shepard to grab some food on the Citadel.  Was like, er, we already did that....

LOL I am so silly...I thought I was getting a second date.  So of course I went back to the Citadel only to find out I was eating alone.

I totally went back for a second date! I was so excited! And then all sad when I opened the map and his name wasn't on it.

I also thought the whole Garrus/Tali thing was just weird.

EDIT: Also, on that game endings post that was pasted/quoted... I love the paragon ending except I would want a marriage propsal instead of a pregnancy... but I could do without either of those and just a shot of them together at the end.

Modifié par PopDisaster, 09 mars 2012 - 07:37 .

[frylock23]

I could live with the endings as listed so long as Shep and the LI are hidden on a backwater world somewhere. You don't have to have them pregnant or married. I can headcanon that, but I think they've earned a quite fade into obscurity together, like some of my Hawkes and their LIs.

[Ianthia]

frylock23 wrote...

OMG! Did anyone else walk in on Garrus and Tali making out? lol

Not yet hehe but I DID almost die laughing when I ran into Conrad Verner.

[Ananka]

I would hate a pregnancy ending. My Shep isn't' having any kids.
I would just like a happy ending that gives you a feeling of hope and accomplishment and that it actually mattered that you spent all that time gathering war assets. I would like Shep to be alive and not separated from her crew and LI, and seeing them on a planet, preferrably Earth, where we are given the impression that not everything is completely lost and destroyed and that one day things can rebuild.
Some closure on what happened to the rest of the galaxy, and what other crewmates did afterwards, would be appreciated and would be totally fine to have as texts.

I'm surprised BW didn't see this coming, honestly. They have to have known that there would be a lot of people who wanted a happy ending for their Sheps.

[Celestria129]

I am completely surprised that a currant screen shot of "Eye candy goodness" has not shown up here yet, if i had it i would post it.

Edit: Never mind just saw it and  mmmm Bioware my have just made up for Horizon with that one

Modifié par Celestria129, 09 mars 2012 - 08:03 .

[People4Peace]

Annaka wrote...

I would hate a pregnancy ending. My Shep isn't' having any kids.
I would just like a happy ending that gives you a feeling of hope and accomplishment and that it actually mattered that you spent all that time gathering war assets. I would like Shep to be alive and not separated from her crew and LI, and seeing them on a planet, preferrably Earth, where we are given the impression that not everything is completely lost and destroyed and that one day things can rebuild.
Some closure on what happened to the rest of the galaxy, and what other crewmates did afterwards, would be appreciated and would be totally fine to have as texts.

I'm surprised BW didn't see this coming, honestly. They have to have known that there would be a lot of people who wanted a happy ending for their Sheps.

I agree 100%. That isn't asking for much at all. To me, its common sense and I was expecting to have an ending that was bittersweet...instead of just bitter. A good ending would've been something like Shep and her/his LI on Earth looking out on all the destruction and death while showing some people celebrate the end of the Reapers (depending on the ending). Something that shows it was all worth it and that there is still hope for the future....which is exactly how it doesn't end.

[carine]

I would have been happier if the ending was more ambiguous, I guess. Like if there was a chance that Shepard would wind up with her crew again. But considering that the mass relays are destroyed, meh.

I wanted a happy ending with Kaidan, gdi! haha. Oh well...

[frylock23]

Annaka wrote...

I would hate a pregnancy ending. My Shep isn't' having any kids.
I would just like a happy ending that gives you a feeling of hope and accomplishment and that it actually mattered that you spent all that time gathering war assets. I would like Shep to be alive and not separated from her crew and LI, and seeing them on a planet, preferrably Earth, where we are given the impression that not everything is completely lost and destroyed and that one day things can rebuild.
Some closure on what happened to the rest of the galaxy, and what other crewmates did afterwards, would be appreciated and would be totally fine to have as texts.

I'm surprised BW didn't see this coming, honestly. They have to have known that there would be a lot of people who wanted a happy ending for their Sheps.

I'd sort of like one that's a bit of a reverse of Mars. One where if your Shep lives, your LI has to find you and dig you out of the rubble and rush you to the hospital, rescue you for once. Maybe have the game end with a black screen, loud breathing and flickering of eyes (basically we're seeing Shep wake up from his/her perspective), and before the blurry images can clear, the screen fades to black again but not quite before you hear a voice say "Dr., she's waking up!" (maybe your LI if you had one).

[Kia Purity]

^This so badly. ;_;

I still can't even motivate myself to finish ME3.

[Aoibheann]

frylock23 wrote...

Annaka wrote...

I would hate a pregnancy ending. My Shep isn't' having any kids.
I would just like a happy ending that gives you a feeling of hope and accomplishment and that it actually mattered that you spent all that time gathering war assets. I would like Shep to be alive and not separated from her crew and LI, and seeing them on a planet, preferrably Earth, where we are given the impression that not everything is completely lost and destroyed and that one day things can rebuild.
Some closure on what happened to the rest of the galaxy, and what other crewmates did afterwards, would be appreciated and would be totally fine to have as texts.

I'm surprised BW didn't see this coming, honestly. They have to have known that there would be a lot of people who wanted a happy ending for their Sheps.

I'd sort of like one that's a bit of a reverse of Mars. One where if your Shep lives, your LI has to find you and dig you out of the rubble and rush you to the hospital, rescue you for once. Maybe have the game end with a black screen, loud breathing and flickering of eyes (basically we're seeing Shep wake up from his/her perspective), and before the blurry images can clear, the screen fades to black again but not quite before you hear a voice say "Dr., she's waking up!" (maybe your LI if you had one).

That's what I'm wanting too... Shepard being rescued for once and just to know she and the LI/Crew are reunited.

Just extend the destroy ending a bit ( with relays intacted/ can be offline for the time being) have the LI or squady pull shep from the rubble with the normandy somewhere in sight..

Modifié par Aoibheann, 09 mars 2012 - 08:12 .

[Celestria129]

frylock23 wrote...

Annaka wrote...

I would hate a pregnancy ending. My Shep isn't' having any kids.
I would just like a happy ending that gives you a feeling of hope and accomplishment and that it actually mattered that you spent all that time gathering war assets. I would like Shep to be alive and not separated from her crew and LI, and seeing them on a planet, preferrably Earth, where we are given the impression that not everything is completely lost and destroyed and that one day things can rebuild.
Some closure on what happened to the rest of the galaxy, and what other crewmates did afterwards, would be appreciated and would be totally fine to have as texts.

I'm surprised BW didn't see this coming, honestly. They have to have known that there would be a lot of people who wanted a happy ending for their Sheps.

I'd sort of like one that's a bit of a reverse of Mars. One where if your Shep lives, your LI has to find you and dig you out of the rubble and rush you to the hospital, rescue you for once. Maybe have the game end with a black screen, loud breathing and flickering of eyes (basically we're seeing Shep wake up from his/her perspective), and before the blurry images can clear, the screen fades to black again but not quite before you hear a voice say "Dr., she's waking up!" (maybe your LI if you had one).

That line there could have so many implactions, especaly if you played the first game and had Kaidan/Ashely saying it, it could me that the games where just the beacon showing shep the future or a possible one?
sorry my spelling is bad

[Lady Jess]

I just finished, and the ending I chose...shockingly, made me quite happy. However I never did hear that dialog that got posted before release, no "safe place to land" etc. The cake in that case was a lie.

[PopDisaster]

Celestria129 wrote...

frylock23 wrote...

Annaka wrote...

I would hate a pregnancy ending. My Shep isn't' having any kids.
I would just like a happy ending that gives you a feeling of hope and accomplishment and that it actually mattered that you spent all that time gathering war assets. I would like Shep to be alive and not separated from her crew and LI, and seeing them on a planet, preferrably Earth, where we are given the impression that not everything is completely lost and destroyed and that one day things can rebuild.
Some closure on what happened to the rest of the galaxy, and what other crewmates did afterwards, would be appreciated and would be totally fine to have as texts.

I'm surprised BW didn't see this coming, honestly. They have to have known that there would be a lot of people who wanted a happy ending for their Sheps.

I'd sort of like one that's a bit of a reverse of Mars. One where if your Shep lives, your LI has to find you and dig you out of the rubble and rush you to the hospital, rescue you for once. Maybe have the game end with a black screen, loud breathing and flickering of eyes (basically we're seeing Shep wake up from his/her perspective), and before the blurry images can clear, the screen fades to black again but not quite before you hear a voice say "Dr., she's waking up!" (maybe your LI if you had one).

That line there could have so many implactions, especaly if you played the first game and had Kaidan/Ashely saying it, it could me that the games where just the beacon showing shep the future or a possible one?
sorry my spelling is bad

Agreed, I want something a little more definitive.

[TamiBx]

Kia Purity wrote...

^This so badly. ;_;

I still can't even motivate myself to finish ME3.

My Shepard is standing in front of the galaxy map with only the final mission to finish but I can't bring myself to do it. I just want a better, more explained and clear ending