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[frylock23]

Ugh! I need a break. I'm fighting my way through London and that last wave of missile defense is giving me fits. I almost had it and then I got pinned by the damn spacebar refusing to let me jump over wall and got grabbed/impaled/insta-illed by a teleporting banshee ... the last one on the freakin' map! I am so frustrated. Ugh!

It doesn't help that I really don't want to get to the ending.

I'm not sure which on gave me more tears - Kaidan's good-bye or Garrus'. They were both awful good, and I was pretty broken up over both.

As to not being able to head canon my way out of the endings. I guess it's always been my personal rules when I head canon that I try not to change the original composition. It was always one of my favorite games when I was a kid. I had an entire part scripted for myself in the Aliens movie that didn't interfere with the original and let me survive to the end. I was pretty proud of that one. Of course, I could also quote the entire movie once upon a time, too. I was such a nerd.

So, without altering the endings, I don't see how I can plausibly construct a head canon way to fix things. I can certainly do it if I change what you actually see.

Modifié par frylock23, 11 mars 2012 - 03:14 .

[frylock23]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Hi I just wanted to ask about something about kaidan. He talks about alcohol a lot and I was wondering if he had some sort of drinking problem?

*spoilers*

His gift for when I go to the hospital is alcohol, when we go on our date he asks for alcohol, and then in the final romance scene he brings be alcohol. I'm not really sure what is normal for people who like alcohol and don't have a problem with it is. I know that many people enjoy alcohol but he seems to talk about it a lot. He also does not socialize as much as the rest of the crew.

Maybe bioware just though alcohol was manly? I'm not sure. I've never had a problem with drinking, I don't drink very much, but I know a lot of people who are recovering alcoholics so this kinda bothers me. Someone who drinks that much or talks about alcohol that much is not attractive to me. Or maybe I am over reacting? I just don't know what is normal.

Edit: And i remember *SPOILER* that raphael sarboge said there was a "marry me, shepard" line in the game. I never got it. *sad face*

You can drink alcohol quite a bit without being an alcoholic. My old high school flame's dad always had a glass of red wine with his supper, but he was certainly no alcoholic because that was all he had. My cousin does the same only he has a beer.

[2leggywillow]

Sashimi_taco wrote...
Edit: And i remember *SPOILER* that raphael sarboge said there was a "marry me, shepard" line in the game. I never got it. *sad face*

IIRC, that was actually someone begging him to say it in his Kaidan voice during that hour-long livestream interview thing he did.  It was never in-game.

[Ianthia]

Sashimi_taco wrote..
Edit: And i remember *SPOILER* that raphael sarboge said there was a "marry me, shepard" line in the game. I never got it. *sad face*

I remember that line! Was thinking about that earlier.... where'd it go (

edit: Just read up one lol awww damn, it was sweet.

Modifié par Ianthia, 11 mars 2012 - 03:38 .

[frylock23]

2leggywillow wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...
Edit: And i remember *SPOILER* that raphael sarboge said there was a "marry me, shepard" line in the game. I never got it. *sad face*

IIRC, that was actually someone begging him to say it in his Kaidan voice during that hour-long livestream interview thing he did.  It was never in-game.

Maybe it'll be in the super-secret endings that we all hope they release to replace the pieces of crap currently occupying the last bits of the game now ...

We can dream. Right?

[goodventure]

RyianaT wrote...

So, I just finished my first ME 3 playthrough (took me a bit - that's a long game).  SPOILERS BELOW:

SPOILERS


I loved the interactions between my Shepard and her teammates (the dinner with Kaidan scene was very sweet and I loved the shooting at bottles with Garrus).  Loved the additional crew banter and lines.  Really loved how we saw more emotion and depth from Shepard this time.  In fact, I really loved everything about the game...right up until the end. 

I wasn't spoiled, so I was totally unprepared. And...I just don't understand that.  Where were my choices?  Why was this game advertised as if your choices made some sort of difference?  Because they really didn't.  Three games, hundreds of hours, and I sort of feel as if the end of my Shepard's story is not my story at all, but the one the writer's wanted to end things with.  I feel...incredibly let down, I guess is the best way to describe it.  The ending doesn't make sense to me and I'm not sure how exactly this "ends" the story.   Well, I guess I know how Shepard's story ends - she dies.  Really, I 'm so glad that I spent all this time on it.  I get it, really I do - its the dramatic ending, the hero sacrifices all for the good of everyone else.  But, how is that a choice?  How is that my story, if the same ending happens no matter who's playing the Shepard?  And yes, damn it, I wanted a happier ending - not perfect, not fairy tales and fluffy bunny rabbits, but an ending where Shepard makes it off the station and makes it back to Kaidan and both of them then join with the others in figuring out how to live in a world that is so drastically changed by the destruction of the mass relays.  I wanted an ending with real hope for SHEPARD, not just some man that tells stories to his kid about it some undetermined time in the future.  I don't mind working for that ending, putting in the extra time, but come on - what the frack kind of ending was THAT?

Sorry for the rant, and I realize that people are probably tired of hearing about this at this point.  I just, had to share some of these feelings.

You echo EXACTLY how I feel.

Although I read in the CE guide that Shepard can survive. but I don't understand how I didn't get that part of the ending when I had an EMS score of 5,000+. >_>;

KMYash wrote...

Huh... I think I got some sort of glitch

I'm going through my second playthrough of the game, first on ps3, and for some reason I haven't had a single 'real' conversation with Kaidan yet and I'm already by the Quarians. Unless my brain is messing up the order I believe I had two conversations with Kaidan at this point....
....
|:

I've had this glitch before. I played on PS3. It was right after the mission with Jacob. The "real" conversation never triggered, so I reloaded the save and it finally did...

Modifié par goodventure, 11 mars 2012 - 04:00 .

[Satanicponies]

goodventure wrote...

You echo EXACTLY how I feel.

Although I read in the CE guide that Shepard can survive. but I don't understand how I didn't get that part of the ending when I had an EMS score of 5,000+. >_>;

DONT READ THIS IF YOU HAVENT BEAT THE GAME... AND IF YOU HAVENT WHY ARE YOU HERE?...





Ahem..

S/he can. The endings are not left or right for paragon or renegade. Its what you "choose" and believe whats best for the galaxy. You said early you choose the left option, which is to control. If you want to see shepard "living" you have to choose the right option, destroy, thats the only one and have an EMS of 4k+

Modifié par Satanicponies, 11 mars 2012 - 04:07 .

[txmn1016]

Found this posted on another thread talking about future DLCs.  Mostly sounds like BS to me (especially the bit with the LI), but who knows. 

[Satanicponies]

txmn1016 wrote...

Found this posted on another thread talking about future DLCs.  Mostly sounds like BS to me (especially the bit with the LI), but who knows. 

its from 4chan. which tells you its most-likely fake.

[Oddlyotter]

 I don't know why everyone is complaining about the ending.

*SPOILER*

I did the destroy one and Kaidan survived and shepard made a "gasp" but like come on. Kaidan lived on. He is able to continue his life now even if i'm not there. He's able to share our adventures and know first hand of the Famous Commander Shepard. Just because shep may be gone doesn't mean he can't go on. The ending seemed to fit. I don't get all the raging out.

Modifié par Oddlyotter, 11 mars 2012 - 04:11 .

[Satanicponies]

Oddlyotter wrote...

 I don't know why everyone is complaining about the ending.

*SPOILER*

Because there is no clousure. At all. no choice. You have no idea the state of the galaxy, your shepard, or your crew (who are now on Jurassic Park.) 

The only fixable way is to have a T-rex attack the normandy, then ill be happy.


Edit: or a raptor.

Like this..

Modifié par Satanicponies, 11 mars 2012 - 04:17 .

[Oddlyotter]

You've gone through hell and back! It's surprising your shep makes it that far. It's about sacrafice for the greater good, not "closure". "Oh kaidan and Shep are married and have bebes after the reapers attack " or "they lived happily and rebuilt!" I dunno that doesn't fit. It doesn't fit the tone to me.

[CrimsonNephilim]

Hey everyone. Been out most of the day and just getting a chance to log in now. Anyone mind getting me up to speed? Not reading 20+ pages >.>

[Satanicponies]

Oddlyotter wrote...

You've gone through hell and back! It's surprising your shep makes it that far. It's about sacrafice for the greater good, not "closure". "Oh kaidan and Shep are married and have bebes after the reapers attack ^_^" or "they lived happily and rebuilt!" I dunno that doesn't fit. It doesn't fit the tone to me.

I dont care about LI things (ew kids). The normandy part is what is stupid. There was no logic conclusion (closure) to the endings. No matter what ending you pick, the galaxy ends up the same way. No choice. 



That being said. I loved to death, 99% of the game.

Modifié par Satanicponies, 11 mars 2012 - 04:26 .

[yoshibb]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Hi I just wanted to ask about something about kaidan. He talks about alcohol a lot and I was wondering if he had some sort of drinking problem?

*spoilers*

His gift for when I go to the hospital is alcohol, when we go on our date he asks for alcohol, and then in the final romance scene he brings be alcohol. I'm not really sure what is normal for people who like alcohol and don't have a problem with it is. I know that many people enjoy alcohol but he seems to talk about it a lot. He also does not socialize as much as the rest of the crew.

Maybe bioware just though alcohol was manly? I'm not sure. I've never had a problem with drinking, I don't drink very much, but I know a lot of people who are recovering alcoholics so this kinda bothers me. Someone who drinks that much or talks about alcohol that much is not attractive to me. Or maybe I am over reacting? I just don't know what is normal.

Edit: And i remember *SPOILER* that raphael sarboge said there was a "marry me, shepard" line in the game. I never got it. *sad face*

The difference is that Kaidan is never drunk or even tipsy. It is a bit of a stereotype. Whiskey is a drink for an old fashioned classy type guy. It's also a bit of a many thing cause whiskey is strong and yet he can handle it. His drinking is a casual thing and completely controlled, unlike when Ashley is on the floor with a hangover in one scene and Shepard keeps pounding drinks til she passes out in ME2. 

His character almost reminds me of a guy I'd find in an old 50s movie except without the sexist overtones. He's soft spoken and romantic with just a bit of a rougeish edge to him. The drinking thing was just playing off of that. 

[syllogi]

Also, drinking alcohol socially can be a cultural thing, and not a problem, for most people. When I lived in New Orleans and worked in the service industry, I went straight from work to a bar. Sometimes I would bring a book and hang out on my free days. I wasn't even much of a drinker...but I knew that was where I could find my friends, and I was buddies with many of the bartenders.

Of course, that was a very particular culture. But perhaps Kaidan just associates drinking whiskey and beer with relaxing...and the current situation calls for de-stressing.

[devSin]

Oddlyotter wrote...

You've gone through hell and back! It's surprising your shep makes it that far. It's about sacrafice for the greater good, not "closure".

Apparently sacrifices that only you have to make... because all your friends ditched you for some reason and somehow high-tailed it out of the system (seriously, weren't you two just dead or unconscious on the ground a moment ago?), just as the stuff goes down.

Yeah, I feel great. If they can live, why can't I? And if I can't live, why won't they stand with me, or why can't I force them to leave to spare them (that's sacrifice)?

No, instead, I'm dying and saving the galaxy, and they're off on a joyride.

Modifié par devSin, 11 mars 2012 - 04:31 .

[Satanicponies]

Whiskey is a gentlemen's drink..
Hmm...
yes...
Quite....

(and you typical dont go nuts on whiskey. that stuff is expensive)

Modifié par Satanicponies, 11 mars 2012 - 04:32 .

[CrimsonNephilim]

The alcohol is just a social thing. Plus, they're Marines/military. Its pretty common with military people to drink together at social gatherings.

[Silver77nz]

Vault N7 wrote...

I'm doing every side quest and trying to scan as much. Not going to do MP for this game, just want to get a feel for it, then I'll do a NG+ with MP and get the ending I want.

Thats the plan anyway.

@silverpearl was that with MP aswell?

Sorry to be a pain but it the EMS score the one that effects the endings if I dont do MP? Or is it the total war number?

The guide isnt clear at all. Or maybe I'm just stupid

Yes it was with MP. I finished the game the 1st time and Shep didn't make it so it gave you the choice as always to continue the game for download content which then puts you back at the point right before you go to TIM base. Then I went and played MP which drove up my score to a 5 k score. So I went back tried the end again and shep came out alive. After you beat the game it always says continue and puts you back before you go to TIM base. Interesting huh ^^ I hope that all made sense cause I just woke up.

[lady winde]

So I beat the game a couple days ago. The only thing I wish is that the endings made sense. I don't need a disney ending to lift my spirits. I'm fine with char deaths happening all around me and making my cry the gross sobbing tears if it makes sense and fits the story appropriately like the other scripted deaths in game. That's just my main beef.

How did the crew get to the Normandy? Who took them there, because Steve certainly couldn't do it. Why did my crew abandon me when they said they would stick there in the end. What exactly told Joker they needed to flee? Edi? Why did party members in my last party come out of the Normandy?

And it couldn't hurt if they had stretched it out a bit. It would have been neat to see Joke arguring with the crew to hop on board and see the conflict in their faces before hopping on. And It would ahve been nice to see the consequences of your choice across the worlds: On Palaven, Tuchanka, Thessia and so on. Just a small clip of say the Reapers shutting down/exploding/whatever. *edit* To be clear, not just on Earth.

I gotta be honest I was kinda hoping for some epilogues to show how the NPCs that you met and affected via quests either survived or died.

But... enough about the endings /cough

I gotta say Kaidan in this game was great. I loved his facial expressions, how tender his hand gestures could be (god that PALM KISSING! /meltsintogooooo). They really upped the bar for romances in their games. I was watching youtube vids for the other romances and they really look like they turned out great. There was such an organic feel and growth to them. I couldn't believe how much I was blushing and giggling at Kaidan and Shepard dancing around each other regarding their past.

I'm really pleased with how it turned out.

*edit*

Kaidan the dapper gentleman, sipping his whiskey, looking at you through his lashes. God. That man. Unf.

Modifié par lady winde, 11 mars 2012 - 04:41 .

[Oddlyotter]

Do you still live with the urm 5k if you pick synthsis? I got it with destroy...

[lady winde]

No you don't. You can only get it with destroy

[yoshibb]

Oddlyotter wrote...

You've gone through hell and back! It's surprising your shep makes it that far. It's about sacrafice for the greater good, not "closure". "Oh kaidan and Shep are married and have bebes after the reapers attack ^_^" or "they lived happily and rebuilt!" I dunno that doesn't fit. It doesn't fit the tone to me.

I'm sorry but does how he sounds in this video really make it seem like he's gonna be ok?

And our major problem isn't the lack of the perfect happy ending. It's how these endings were handled and how OOC it makes the squad feel.

1) When Shepard is shot by the beam, it's assumed the squadmates with you are dead, except they are not cause they come out of the Normandy at the end. So that implies they ran away and left Shepard there. Which leads to...
2) The Normandy then running from Earth. The battle is at Earth, everyone is there, so what is Joker doing out next to the relay at the edge of the solar system? It implies that your squad is fleeing the battle like cowards. They are not cowards and they wouldn't leave Shepard there. They'd get to the conduit and finish the job Shepard was unable to.
3) The Normandy crashes on a jungle planet we have no idea where. So I guess the Normandy crew just starts breeding with each other and forms a new colony? Really? The Normandy couldn't crash on Earth? Why is it on this weird planet? It makes no sense.

Then the epilogue is just congratulations, you're a legend! Wat? What happened to everyone? What happened to all the alien fleets? Are they stuck there now? Even if Shepard lives she has to be forever separated from all her loved ones. I'd rather be dead. I have a ton of questions, I don't understand anything.

I would've accepted Shepard and the Normandy sacrificing themselves to kill Harbinger, therefore rallying the rest of the troops to victory. It's sad but it makes sense. This makes no sense.

Modifié par yoshibb, 11 mars 2012 - 04:45 .

[Oddlyotter]

OH YEAH I dunno why I asked that xD It made me sad to get rid of edi but I wanted to live >.>