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NeverQuiteAwake

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Also, I agree with what you said before Oddlyotter, about a sad ending being fitting. When Thane said that prayer for my Shep, I realized she was going to die. Then, after Anderson died, I completely expected my squadmates (Kaidan and Garrus) to arrive all battered and broken. Maybe Kaidan would go to Shep's side and hold her one last time as Garrus sets off the Crucible at the console Anderson seemed to be using before. Then perhaps they would realize the citadel would be destroyed if they set it off and they'd die together. Sad, but I pictured that would be satisfying to me.

What we really got was some bizarre, emotionless thing. I actually feel like I had a bad dream that the game ended that way.

Modifié par Little Miss Angel, 11 mars 2012 - 07:28 .


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Little Miss Angel wrote...

@ goodventure

I was thinking the same thing when I finished playing. I have seen Lost, I agree a few things weren't explained. I remember the outcry when it ended, at the time I didn't understand why people were so upset. I got the closure I wanted, and the great arcs for the characters. I too was emotionally satisfied. When I finished ME3, I was confused at first... then just empty. I didn't feel much of anything.

Yup, the Lost fanrage was understandable because of all the plotholes, but character relationships and issues were all pretty much resolved by the end, which was why I was happy with it.
I still feel empty. All I want is Shepard to be reunited with his his love interest and his friends. :crying: It doesn't even need to be a happy ending for this to happen.

Or at least an epilogue. AT LEAST an epilogue. I think we deserve one...

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That twitter link wont load for me silver!

EDIT: nvm it worked now after I posted that xD

Yeah if Kaidan was there with me at the end. I would be satisfied with that. But now i'm latche don to this indoctrination theory and renews my hope!

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goodventure wrote...

Little Miss Angel wrote...

@ goodventure

I was thinking the same thing when I finished playing. I have seen Lost, I agree a few things weren't explained. I remember the outcry when it ended, at the time I didn't understand why people were so upset. I got the closure I wanted, and the great arcs for the characters. I too was emotionally satisfied. When I finished ME3, I was confused at first... then just empty. I didn't feel much of anything.

Yup, the Lost fanrage was understandable because of all the plotholes, but character relationships and issues were all pretty much resolved by the end, which was why I was happy with it.
I still feel empty. All I want is Shepard to be reunited with his his love interest and his friends. :crying: It doesn't even need to be a happy ending for this to happen.

Or at least an epilogue. AT LEAST an epilogue. I think we deserve one...


Exactly. It's funny, for one second, when they first showed those leaves on the tropical planet, I actually thought it was going to be some sort of heaven where Shepard is united with his/her love interest and friends.

Modifié par Little Miss Angel, 11 mars 2012 - 07:31 .


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The ending felt like I was smoking some really, really strong drugs. The whole thing is bizzare. How did Anderson end up in the same damn place? So the people I had with me just magically made it out while a big bright white light beamed me up to the middle of nowhere with dead bodies and keepers. It's just like a really bad, strange, not explain anything sort of ending! Were the writers smoking something? What the hell!! Where is the logic behind any of this?

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I forgot my twitter stuff at the moment...can someone post that tweet?

I'm just mad that the ending provided zero closure. Haven't gotten there yet, but I do feel the buildup to the ending looks fantastic...........

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Now the twitter opened. Weeeeeeeeeeeird. Posted Image

Modifié par Phoenix_Fyre, 11 mars 2012 - 07:41 .


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INDOCTRINATION! Think about it. You have two options to basically keep the reapers, and one option to live. They change the colors, they have anderson who looks unscathed unlike you etc. Why do you see the little boy? How would anything know that boy has been haunting your dreams? Now it comes down to you, as the player, not shepard, having the finale battle against indoctrination. And that, that is glorious.Very metagamage. You're not picking based on color, right or wrong, you, the player, have the choice to do whatever with the indoctrination. I'm in full support of the theory now xD

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Yeah, it's really strange. As I was playing, I kept thinking, "wow this game is the greatest thing I've ever played, something really, truly bizarre would have to happen to make me unhappy about the ending." And then, well...

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Hmmm someone else had the same idea cross their mind ha ha ha
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9727423/1

Runs off to read it

Edit:Oddly Otter it kinda mentions your theory as well

Modifié par Silverpearl1977, 11 mars 2012 - 07:47 .


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I'm almost tempted to buy into the hallucination theories... unlikely as they think I must be....

I haven't been this angry since I found out what happened to Darth Caedus in the Legacy of the Force series.......now THAT was some fanrage

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I'd like to believe in the hallucination theories, but I don't think I can. I highly doubt Bioware would ship a game that didn't have a complete ending only to provide DLC later which clears everything up - just doesn't seem like good business sense to me. After going through the endings and reading through all the theories, I'm just going to sit and stew in my disappointment until DLC is announced. Then I'll wait and see if it's worth my time.
I mean I'm glad I got my Kaidan-mance back, but the end really felt like a kick to the head on this one.

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Even without DLC if the theory is correct, I'm satisfied. I dunno how the earth ended but i'm still satisfied xD

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Out of curiousity, since I haven't reached the endings yet: is it possible to headcanon that the merge ending would reunite everyone in a space-magic-hivemind like what the geth have, so that Shepard and Kaidan could technically be reunited? If the ending doesn't hint that Shepard survives, does it at least leave room for me to say that Shepard was uploaded to a digital consciousness like the people from the Alien Ghost Ship Encounter series from the Cerberus Daily News?
(That could lead me to saying that Shepard lives inside Kaidan's head. Implications very, very pleasant.)

Modifié par lietk12, 11 mars 2012 - 08:42 .


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I don't know if anyone posted anythign like this yet so if you haven't finished the game don't click on this link, but it was so emotionally charged i played through Chronos again just so I could record it because for some reason you can't save just before the final battle -_-

Anyyyyway: www.youtube.com/watch

It still chokes me up.

Modifié par slydfoxxy, 11 mars 2012 - 09:55 .


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slydfoxxy wrote...

I don't know if anyone posted anythign like this yet so if you haven't finished the game don't click on this link, but it was so emotionally charged i played through Chronos again just so I could record it because for some reason you can't save just before the final battle -_-

Anyyyyway: www.youtube.com/watch

It still chokes me up.


Thanks but I don't think I can take my emotions getting any more charged. Between the high of my M!Shep and Kaidan finally being able to be together and the low of how the writers of ME3 thought the ending would be a satisfying conclusion, my heart feels as if it was ripped out of my chest, used as a World Cup ball and shoved back in.

I mean, really - after everything my Shepard went through in all 3 ME games to stop the Reapers, was it asking too much for a reasonably happy ending?

Modifié par MageTarot, 11 mars 2012 - 10:49 .


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Got the game a couple of days ago and haven't got too far with it yet - maybe a third in?  I eventually caved in and read about the endings because the pre-release discussions here were killing me and I couldn't decide whether I should just give up on the game before I started.  I was reasonably reassured that the vast majority of it is excellent - and that's my experience so far - but the endings sound really poorly thought through and simplistic (I mean, don't we all have a good enough grasp of the singularity thing already?  From what I've read, the explanation sounds patronising).  And the nihilism too.  Tbh, it sounds like they were channeling some emo teen when they wrote it: "it's all so sad and tragic and beeeeeautiful."  Gah.  I've read some people saying it's 'mature'.  Mature, my arse.  What sort of adult wants to wallow in something like that?

My biggest gripe so far is the kid.  I HATE that kid.  I don't want to follow him in the dream sequences and would, if given the option, have preferred to have shot the little bugger in the air ducts back on earth.  My dislike of this is not objecting to kids in general (or the concept of kids) but just that that is such a tired old trope.  B-o-r-i-n-g.

Anyway, apart from that, I'm liking the game.  Love lots of things about it.  I love Kaidan, I love Garrus, I even quite like Liara (I never really was a big fan though I liked her better in LotSB) and I REALLY like what they did with the Protheans - yes, that was an excellent move.   So, I have decided to play while it's fun and just stop before I reach the end.  I can see I will play it once and then move on.  Looks like I will be able to finish The Witcher 2 after all instead of playing this till Christmas.  Ah well.

Modifié par JenMaxon, 11 mars 2012 - 11:47 .


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Maybe this one will make you feel all warm and fuzzy then :)

www.youtube.com/watch

I know there are a few of them but I posted this because of the conversation at the end.

Take heart Shep!!!

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I Finish the game and I am very very sad for the ending!!! I don't like this end !! why Bioware??

The romance Kaidan/femshep is the best for me but the end for this close the tree saga is very bad for the end !!!!!

More Kaidan and Shepard Posted Image for forget this bad end by Bioware !!!

Posted Image]www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php[/url]

Modifié par mya11, 11 mars 2012 - 11:38 .


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I just went through some of the romances, Tali, Ash, Kaidan....

To me Ash/Kaidan are the most emotional by far, and we see that Shep's been through hell...

Do not.... understand....endings!

Why put such care into these love scenes.. then brutally rip Shep away from Tali/Kaidan/Ash/Jack....

Can't imagine what Thanemancers are doing...

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Little Miss Angel wrote...

Also, I agree with what you said before Oddlyotter, about a sad ending being fitting. When Thane said that prayer for my Shep, I realized she was going to die. Then, after Anderson died, I completely expected my squadmates (Kaidan and Garrus) to arrive all battered and broken. Maybe Kaidan would go to Shep's side and hold her one last time as Garrus sets off the Crucible at the console Anderson seemed to be using before. Then perhaps they would realize the citadel would be destroyed if they set it off and they'd die together. Sad, but I pictured that would be satisfying to me.

What we really got was some bizarre, emotionless thing. I actually feel like I had a bad dream that the game ended that way.


*pokes head in* Hello fellow Kaidanites ;)

Delurking here for a moment to say that I absolutely agree. The fact that my squadmates 'magically' transport to the Normandy is probably my biggest beef with the endings. Do you think after Kaidan left her on the Normandy @ the beginning of ME2 he was going to EVER leave her side in that situation?  Cause I sure don't. And what you described there of the squadmates supporting each other (specifically Kaidan, since this is a Kaidan-thread ;) !) at the end would have been a beautiful image. Instead, I feel like it's all just a big glitchy ending?

PLUS, they freaking had to add Kaidan say "I'm going to fight like hell to hold you again."  (...except I'm running away to the Normandy??)

[/rant] ... k going back to lurking:bandit:

Modifié par Jeowyn, 11 mars 2012 - 12:02 .


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Is it just me that thinks Joker/Kaidan/Garrus (my final squad) are dead? It's just that Joker and Kaidan's photos flashed up with Anderson's at the end (though Garrus' didn't), so I assumed they'd died and the stupid crash thing was some cliched heaven bull****. Why else would they be sort-of-smiling. But then I assume Shepard is also dead so wouldn't he/she be there?

I, like almost everyone on here, am insanely confused. Also, sod those stargazing peeps at the end. What the heck?

Edit: Sorry to be ranty or if this is total nonsense, I 've literally just finished the game and am feeling a bit tender :/

Modifié par tea_meister, 11 mars 2012 - 12:23 .


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Gawd, I can't sleep after finishing there are just so many more questions than answers by that stupid ending.

1.) Why is the creepy Gawd Child offering my synthesis like it's something new? It's not. The Reapers and their minions are all bio-synthetics.
2.) How can I go from passed out/dying from blood loss to the point where I can't get the job done for Hackett to getting stronger and stronger? That's downright Python-esque. "I got better ... I think I'll go for a walk."
3.) How does getting grazed by a giant red lasar beam suddenly dress me in an entirely new set of clothing, remove my shotgun and carnifex pistol and give me a new side arm with infinite ammo?
4.) What happened to Harbinger? He was the hidden villain throughout ME2 and Arrival, and his only part in ME3 was to swoop down and fire a giant red lasar from afar without saying anything? Instead, he hides behind the Gawd Child?
5.) If Shepard has just gone through a bit where indoctrinated TIM was able to control Shepard like she was indoctrinated to the point where he gets her to shoot Anderson, why would the Gawd Child tell her she can control the Reapers when he just got done telling her that TIM couldn't do it because the Reapers already controlled TIM?
6.) If you're on the Citadel when it explodes, how in the hell can you suddenly wake in a pile of rubble on Earth particularly when it's pretty clear that you are at ground zero of the explosion and caught pretty squarely in the initial blast. Oh, and if you do see yourself wake up on Earth, congrats! You got your armor back.
7.) When it's pretty much implied that everyone who was running at the pretty light was fried by Harbinger, how on earth did your squaddies get back on the Normandy? They should be dead or at the very least hiding in the rubble with any of the other very, very few survivors.
8.) Why would the Normandy be running from a fight?
9.) When every single, solitary one of your companions minus Joker was on Earth at FOB, how did any of them get back on the Normandy to be running away with it (asked because it's apparently random who comes out with Joker at the end - LI and someone else)?
10.) When exploring and scanning, how many jungle planets did we run across anyhow? So, what are the odds that the Normandy is going to just happen to crash on one? Riiiiiight. Tell me another one.
11.) How do you happen to crash land on a planet that has an ecosystem that can accommodate a couple different kinds of protein/DNA based life forms? Because if it can't, at least a couple crew mates are dying of slow starvation.
12.) Why show the stargazer and imply that the Normandy starts a new colony? There aren't nearly enough people on that ship to create a viable genetic population. That's a different kind of lingering death, but death all the same.

See, I don't have a problem with my characters dying, but the way this ends makes it feel half-@ssed. There are too many problems with it and too many of the other characters received such touching and fitting ends.

1.) Mordin
2.) Thane
3.) All the Asari holding out on Thessia
4.) Legion
5.) Emily Wong even
6.) Anderson

So, if all these other characters got such fitting ends and great tributes, why is my Shepard left out? Why do I have to sacrifice my character to this mess of an ending that doesn't seem to make any real sense at all?

That's why I'm pissed.

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Well I just finished my first play thru with a galactic readiness of 100% and 6190(ish) assets and all I have to say about my happy ending is

:blink:.........?!

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Silverpearl1977 wrote...

The ending felt like I was smoking some really, really strong drugs. The whole thing is bizzare. How did Anderson end up in the same damn place? So the people I had with me just magically made it out while a big bright white light beamed me up to the middle of nowhere with dead bodies and keepers. It's just like a really bad, strange, not explain anything sort of ending! Were the writers smoking something? What the hell!! Where is the logic behind any of this?


In Mass effect 1 and 2 I had these overwhelming feelings of joy as they ended. As Sovereign and the collector base exploded I felt these chills go through me as I saw the Normandy soaring off. I was building the same high in Mass Effect 3 except I was sobbing and laughing along with it. Then the ending happened and I just sat there with this 'wtf?' look on my face.

@ madlily welcome to the club

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yoshibb wrote...

Silverpearl1977 wrote...

The ending felt like I was smoking some really, really strong drugs. The whole thing is bizzare. How did Anderson end up in the same damn place? So the people I had with me just magically made it out while a big bright white light beamed me up to the middle of nowhere with dead bodies and keepers. It's just like a really bad, strange, not explain anything sort of ending! Were the writers smoking something? What the hell!! Where is the logic behind any of this?


In Mass effect 1 and 2 I had these overwhelming feelings of joy as they ended. As Sovereign and the collector base exploded I felt these chills go through me as I saw the Normandy soaring off. I was building the same high in Mass Effect 3 except I was sobbing and laughing along with it. Then the ending happened and I just sat there with this 'wtf?' look on my face.

@ madlily welcome to the club

I literally just finished my first play thru and got my supposed happy ending.. I dont even!! :blush:

The writing in this end part of the game makes no sense.. did they fire all of the dudes that had done the earlier parts of the game and gave a new set of writers ffa on writing some totally random ending?!
If this game doesnt deserve a Fall out 3 Broken Steel type DLC I dont know what does.. WORST ENDING EVER!!!
Least they fixed that games rebadulous ending and gave a few more missions to 'really' finish it up... 

I hope the ME3 DLC peeps are seeing these forums and will do somthing about it!

edit.. some kaidan hotness to make me less likely to go kick a kitten over this ending... ToP
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