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[frylock23]

yoshibb wrote...


And then the ending happens. And they step out of the Normandy like nothing has happened and I don't know what's happening and then this stupid grandfather comes up on some stock photo and then it says I'm a legend and it tells me to buy DLC and AAARRJDDAPIFSD{J

That's just it though. I'm replaying now and I'm not so sure that they do. I'm noticing little thing this time. One of the things I'm noticing is how many characters are referencing settling down somewhere tropical with beaches and seashores when all this is over.

Mordin just did it in the Normandy sick bay.
I remember Garrus doing it.

I'm going to try to keep track of how many others might mention it. If the theme is strong enough, it might lend credence to the idea that the end isn't real but a hallucination/dream, a projection of what Shep wants to believe instead of what really happens. If enough of her comrades talk about it, maybe the groundwork is there for her to hallucinate them all crash landing somewhere safe and out of reach and a tropical paradise.

Because we can all agree that what we see happending to the Normandy makes no sense at all.

Also, has anyone else compared the differences in points on deciding to save the Rachni Queen on Aralakh's body count or sacrificing her? I sacrificed her on my first playthrough because I thought I'd lose Grunt. I saved her this time around and noticed that she gives me 100 pts, and I get 75 pts in the Krogan column (Grunt + Aralakh). I'm wondering (without having to load up my other game to look) what the difference in pts for sacrificing her is. I'll bet the boost to Aralakh's numbers doesn't cover that missing 100 pts.

Modifié par frylock23, 13 mars 2012 - 04:30 .

[Dorko525]

devSin wrote...

Dorko525 wrote...

Argh lol I can't believe I missed that. Good thing I'm doing a 2nd pt even though it's killing me. When does it happen? She just got finished doing that record of me in my cabin.

You may have already missed it. I think it can only happen before the attack.

She's tending bar in the commons, near the very first time you can interact with Liara on the Citadel (same place you go for the Kaidan date). She won't initially be there, but on one of the return trips, you can see her.

She has a ton of lines with Liara, about things like Liara being quarter Krogan and headbutting people. There's a lot of gold there.

Ahhh crap. I think I missed it. Thanks everyone for letting me know. I'll just save it if I ever get the courage to play my BroShep who romanced Liara. It's so easy to miss some NPCs or anything of use. I wish they'd pop up when you hit RB on the Xbox. I think PC does something like that

[Trinity Shep]

yoshibb wrote...

carine wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...
When I first heard that, I teared up a little, but didn't really cry because I TRULY believed we'd have a happy ending. But, looking back, it's what makes me feel the worst. That, and Garrus' "If Heaven has a bar, I'll meet you there, first round's on me," line. 
If I knew what was in store for me at that point... Man, everything just hits home after the fact. Luckily, my eyes are dried out for the time being, I guess that's what sobbing for 9 hours in one day does to you.

For all of this, I love Bioware. No game, movie, book, or even real life event has never affected me this emotionally before. Now, all they need to do is release the real ending...  I have to hope, it's all any of us can do.

I know exactly what you mean. As much as I despise the endings we have now (and I'm adding that because I have an ounce of hope that they'll get fixed), the rest of the game was a masterpiece. I cried so many times, and I've never flat out cried during a video game before. I teared up in Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 once or twice, but RARELY. And then in Mass Effect 3 I'm bawling.

I seriously felt depressed the day after I finished the game. I didn't want to do anything but cry. :/ I would burst into tears thinking about the ending, I think especially because how well-written the friendships and the romances were. Kaidan's line, "I can't lose you again" had me crying because after seeing the ending, I know he lost her again. 

Yep, I know I said before the game that never has a game made me cry. But Mass Effect 3, broke me. I was scared that I had lost Grunt first but he stumbled out. I was close then but what really put me over the edge was Mordin. I remember having serious discussions with Mordin and he insisted he was in the right. But he finally turned, changed his mind. Despite all the Krogans hate and his own race wanting the opposite, he wanted to save them. I knew it was coming. I knew he was going to die, but I wanted my Shepard to stop him. I'm just sobbing as he walks on that elevator. Shepard finally gives into his wishes and so do I. He convinces me this is the only way and I'm ok with it. But I'm still crying cause he's singing his song and... then he's gone. The Krogan are cured, their nightmare over, they are ready to start anew.

And I'm still crying my eyes out to hard to even say dialogue options to my Kinect. It was so perfect and yet they couldn't recreate that for the final scene? What the hell?? Then Thane with his prayer and Legion finally saying 'I' 

See I knew what was going to happen in the end cause I spoiled myself. And I wanted to know Kaidan and my crew would be ok if I died. But they weren't ok with it. Kaidan practically screams he's going to get himself killed if Shepard dies with the "I can't lose you again" line. Liara and Garrus are talking about saying goodbye but they don't want to leave Shepard. They went to be with her in death. The only person who seems ok with it is Tali, who has her people and her new home world to be happy about.

So I want so bad to live cause I know that those people I love will just die without Shepard at their side.

The asari that went scouring the galaxy for Shepard's body just on a hunch she could be brought back to life
The turian who dropped everything and followed Shepard to death's doorstep at every turn
And the man who waited three years, wallowing in misery as the love his life died only to have her return. They go through betrayal, drama, and heartbreak until they finally renew their love. She forgives him, he forgives her and its like nothing in the universe will keep them apart again

And then the ending happens. And they step out of the Normandy like nothing has happened and I don't know what's happening and then this stupid grandfather comes up on some stock photo and then it says I'm a legend and it tells me to buy DLC and AAARRJDDAPIFSD{J

OMG Yes! I screamed with Grunt, i was like NO I COULDA TAKEN THEM! And when i thought he was dead i pouted.. i was like ha! Bioware almost got me there! And than Mordin! i was ok till he started singing, than i couldnt help but cry just a little bit! Thane got me big time, i cried once i found out the prayer was for me.. The romance with kaidan brought tears to my eyes but of pure joy, and when i was there and i knew my Shepard wasnt coming back i balled. I cried screaming! I just wanted to be with kaidan! Why would you do this!! And all i could hear in my head was "I cant loose you again" over and over.. knowing i let him down, that i wanted to be there! And seeing him get off with a smile just made me even more angry.. i was like wtf?!? what is to be happy about?!?! I guess we will see.. they have to bring out DLC they like money.

[tay2208]

What does Kaidan say to Shepard about cheating on him in ME2? Can't bring myself to do it.

[kellyofthemagi]

Did aanyone here get a new update?

[frylock23]

Mara281 wrote...

goodventure wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Just read some very interesting observation. Vega mentions hearing a "hum" when you talk to him in the Shuttle Bay. It's like the same thing Kaidan said about the Conduit statue in ME1.

The plot thickens

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that.

That line never really went anywhere in ME3, though. But then again I wouldn't know, I never used James after the Mars mission.

I was wondering about this as well, but nothing ever came of it. At least I didn't come across anything... maybe James is just hearing things.

Well, I just got donw talking to EDI and she mentioned updating the cyberwarfare suite around the Reaper IFF. So if nothing else, that is apparently still on board. I was never clear, but was it a physical aritfact? It must have been because otherwise why else did you have to go and get it, and if that's the case, then you do have Reaper tech and a Reaper object capable of broadcasting a signal on board.

[kellyofthemagi]

When I loaded my game tonight there was a new update for ME3 and Dlc anyone know anything about it?

[yoshibb]

txmn1016 wrote...

Welcome to the club yoshibb

Unfortunately I've been in the club from the beginning before the actual ****storm began. I've had two weeks to figure this **** out and it still makes zero sense to me. I told my brother about it tonight who is a hardcore shooter fan and he said "Wow that's so stupid, it's a game about choice, why would you have one linear ending?"

WHY DOES MY BROTHER WHO JUST STARTED THIS SERIES A MONTH AGO UNDERSTAND IT BETTER THAN THE PEOPLE WHO CREATED IT???

Ugh, anyway, I'm probably heading on multiplayer in a bit. It's been a struggle to play this game but maybe ranting about it to my fellow kaidanites will make me feel a little better.

[Ricvenart]

@Frylock: This being Kaidan's topic and all I don't think he does, if he couldn't be reunited with Shepard surely Kaidan would go to Canada to live with his Alone mother, if you "dream" of him being anywhere, I would pick there, but maybe it's not strange enough for it to be a hint of a dream.

[frylock23]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

tay2208 wrote...

I think the last talk with Kaidan in London before the end is the most emotional scene throughout the entire series with him. I hated saying goodbye. Great.... now I'm tearing up again.

When I first heard that, I teared up a little, but didn't really cry because I TRULY believed we'd have a happy ending. But, looking back, it's what makes me feel the worst. That, and Garrus' "If Heaven has a bar, I'll meet you there, first round's on me," line. 
If I knew what was in store for me at that point... Man, everything just hits home after the fact. Luckily, my eyes are dried out for the time being, I guess that's what sobbing for 9 hours in one day does to you.

For all of this, I love Bioware. No game, movie, book, or even real life event has never affected me this emotionally before. Now, all they need to do is release the real ending...  I have to hope, it's all any of us can do.

Yeah, I knew what was coming, and I don't know which one was worse. I was very attacked to both Kaidan and Garrus. Those two scenes were some of the best. I was a bit of a wreck.

[kellyofthemagi]

Thought they said it wouldn't be another Lost. HMMMMM

[Anacruisis]

yoshibb wrote...

Yep, I know I said before the game that never has a game made me cry. But Mass Effect 3, broke me. I was scared that I had lost Grunt first but he stumbled out. I was close then but what really put me over the edge was Mordin. I remember having serious discussions with Mordin and he insisted he was in the right. But he finally turned, changed his mind. Despite all the Krogans hate and his own race wanting the opposite, he wanted to save them. I knew it was coming. I knew he was going to die, but I wanted my Shepard to stop him. I'm just sobbing as he walks on that elevator. Shepard finally gives into his wishes and so do I. He convinces me this is the only way and I'm ok with it. But I'm still crying cause he's singing his song and... then he's gone. The Krogan are cured, their nightmare over, they are ready to start anew.

And I'm still crying my eyes out to hard to even say dialogue options to my Kinect. It was so perfect and yet they couldn't recreate that for the final scene? What the hell?? Then Thane with his prayer and Legion finally saying 'I' 

See I knew what was going to happen in the end cause I spoiled myself. And I wanted to know Kaidan and my crew would be ok if I died. But they weren't ok with it. Kaidan practically screams he's going to get himself killed if Shepard dies with the "I can't lose you again" line. Liara and Garrus are talking about saying goodbye but they don't want to leave Shepard. They went to be with her in death. The only person who seems ok with it is Tali, who has her people and her new home world to be happy about.

So I want so bad to live cause I know that those people I love will just die without Shepard at their side.

The asari that went scouring the galaxy for Shepard's body just on a hunch she could be brought back to life
The turian who dropped everything and followed Shepard to death's doorstep at every turn
And the man who waited three years, wallowing in misery as the love his life died only to have her return. They go through betrayal, drama, and heartbreak until they finally renew their love. She forgives him, he forgives her and its like nothing in the universe will keep them apart again

And then the ending happens. And they step out of the Normandy like nothing has happened and I don't know what's happening and then this stupid grandfather comes up on some stock photo and then it says I'm a legend and it tells me to buy DLC and AAARRJDDAPIFSD{J

*sobbing at the corner*

[tay2208]

I think we all need some more of this.

http://t3.gstatic.co...KKawIiBdOV2zh1Q

[Trinity Shep]

kellyofthemagi wrote...

Did aanyone here get a new update?

What kinda update??

[devSin]

frylock23 wrote...

Well, I just got donw talking to EDI and she mentioned updating the cyberwarfare suite around the Reaper IFF. So if nothing else, that is apparently still on board. I was never clear, but was it a physical aritfact?

Yes, the IFF module is a physical object.

No, I don't believe any of the indoctrination theories.

frylock23 wrote...

Because we can all agree that what we see happending to the Normandy makes no sense at all.

Not only does it make no sense, but taken on its face, it's a betrayal of everything we know about these characters from the entire trilogy.

All they have to do for me is to explain the Normandy. Give me something. Anything. I cannot handwave this travesty out of existence. They MUST do something to have it make sense and not totally destroy any sort of effect they were trying to achieve with this "finale".

Modifié par devSin, 13 mars 2012 - 04:54 .

[Trinity Shep]

I found what Kaidan says if you cheat on him with Thane

[yoshibb]

tay2208 wrote...

I think we all need some more of this.

http://t3.gstatic.co...KKawIiBdOV2zh1Q

Look at him, he's so sad. Why can't he be happy? Why can't I make him happy? I choose to make Kaidan happy!!

@frylock the only thing that confuses me is that with less war assets, no one comes off the normandy. So with less assets Shepard is not allowed to have a good vision? She hallucinates them in hell or something? And how about a hint of something like a blurry silhouette of Ashley in the background or something to hint there's something weird going on.

I mean they said it wasn't going to be like Lost butt yet it's exactly like Lost! 

[Mara281]

tay2208 wrote...

I think we all need some more of this.

http://t3.gstatic.co...KKawIiBdOV2zh1Q

Yes... we're going to need a hell of a lot more of that

[devSin]

yoshibb wrote...

@frylock the only thing that confuses me is that with less war assets, no one comes off the normandy. So with less assets Shepard is not allowed to have a good vision? She hallucinates them in hell or something? And how about a hint of something like a blurry silhouette of Ashley in the background or something to hint there's something weird going on.

Maybe because it's so hopeless and you know it?

You can dream, but you're not an idiot. You know nobody is making it out of this one alive if you come with only 2,000 EMS?

Well, except for Joker, because apparently it's more important that he survives so they can use him in future books and comics, even if they have to make him turn traitor to do it. :-(

[tay2208]

Trinity Shep wrote...

I found what Kaidan says if you cheat on him with Thane

Thanks for posting.  Ah I feel bad for him!! 

[Jean]

Satanicponies wrote...

Ok, off-topic but too amazing to pass up....

How krogans mate. Its amazing!

www.youtube.com/watch

I almost want to kill off Mordin just for this lmao

Shep's face there is just as great as the face s/he gives when EDI made her "joke"

Modifié par Batteries, 13 mars 2012 - 04:57 .

[Corephyfish]

tay2208 wrote...


@frylock the only thing that confuses me is that with less war assets, no one comes off the normandy. So with less assets Shepard is not allowed to have a good vision? She hallucinates them in hell or something? And how about a hint of something like a blurry silhouette of Ashley in the background or something to hint there's something weird going on.

I mean they said it wasn't going to be like Lost butt yet it's exactly like Lost! 

I only had just over 2000 EMS and I still had Kaidan and Joker get out of the Normandy on my first playthrough. I will be getting a lot more this time around. So I dont know if its less then 2000 or 1000?

Modifié par slydfoxxy, 13 mars 2012 - 05:07 .

[breyant]

Batteries wrote...

Satanicponies wrote...

Ok, off-topic but too amazing to pass up....

How krogans mate. Its amazing!

www.youtube.com/watch

I almost want to kill off Mordin just for this lmao

Shep's face there is just as great as the face s/he gives when EDI made her "joke"

As sad as it is to kill Mordin, it's worth it for at least one play-through with Padok Wiks, he is a really great character!

[Anacruisis]

Batteries wrote...

Satanicponies wrote...

Ok, off-topic but too amazing to pass up....

How krogans mate. Its amazing!

www.youtube.com/watch

I almost want to kill off Mordin just for this lmao

Shep's face there is just as great as the face s/he gives when EDI made her "joke"

my reaction is also same when thinking how krogan mate

just raised my readiness from 50% to 70%
man my EMS is still 4235
another 10 round of MP I guess

Modifié par Anacruisis, 13 mars 2012 - 05:11 .

[Corephyfish]

It's definitely a O.o moment...

But my face was more like that justy cos of HIS expression lol, did anyone else think it was kinda pervy? lol!