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txmn1016 wrote...

If you don't want to save anderson then don't persuade TIM.



Won't TIM shot anderson then?

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I tried to be positive since I hadn't seen any spoilers about the ending. Just look what that got me I cried like a baby then went raging. My mom don't know anything about Mass Effect but she almost cried when I told her about the last conversation with Kaidan. And no surprise she did NOT understand the ending.

I'll replay the game up until the end then stop and close my eyes imagining the Normandy coming in to save Shepard in the last moment. Kaidan jumping out all flaming blue from biotics then saving Shepard. That is how it should be in my world! *sits back grumbling in a corner*

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Kia Purity wrote...

I couldn't persuade TIM at all and someone said that the middle option was supposed to be picked on Mars and I was all "oh gee ALL THAT WAY BACK? Stupid Bioware." I renegade shot him. X(

The guy from Something Awful (who was right on 99% of stuff), posted these TIM/Anderson mechanics:

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If Anderson "survives" (he always dies, but if he survives long enough to speak with Shepard) then Shepard can survive the Destroy ending with an EMS of 4000. If Anderson dies before speaking with Shepard, Shepard will only survive the Destroy ending with an EMS of 5000 or more.

 Rescuing Anderson is kind of complicated but basically there's an interrupt that will allow you to save him. The length of this interrupt is determined by how many times you charmed/intimidated a certain person throughout the final confrontation. If you successfully hit the interrupt, Anderson survives. 

 However, if you managed to charm/intimidate a certain person throughout the entire game (there are six opportunities, three of which are in the final confrontation) then there will be a final charm/intimidate option available. Charming the person will cause them to commit suicide, intimidating them will cause an interrupt that will allow Shepard to shoot the person. I highly recommend the intimidate option over the charm, because you miss out on some stuff if the person dies instantly.
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Not sure if 100% true, but I think yes, he was right on so so mnay other things

Modifié par IsaacShep, 13 mars 2012 - 08:51 .


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So I just persuade TIM?
My first playthrough I use paragon persuade to TIM
To make him commit suicide and Anderson can talk to Shepard after that
But I dont get the secret scene
Oh well time to increase my EMS to 5K just in case

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You'll have to have at least 4k EMS when starting assault on Cerberus headquarters in order to unlock the secret scene.

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Rocksu wrote...

You'll have to have at least 4k EMS when starting assault on Cerberus headquarters in order to unlock the secret scene.


What IS this secret scene? Posted Image

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Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

I just beat ME3 for the first time................. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

*random gibberish. Twitches. Foams at the mouth*


I'm sorry. Here's a link to the hug thread since you've already gotten cookies.

Edit: @Arikashika Here's a link that does exactly that for you. I highly reccomend it as if our indoctrination/hallucination theory proves false then this is my new head canon.

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VintageUtti wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

The whole 'answers' crap I hate, I couldn't give a damn about answers. It was exactly the same with Lost at the end of the day you invest your time in the characters more than anything else. That's why Lost's ending, for me atlest, was perfect. I much rather had a character focused ending, than the so called answers ending we got. All I wanted to do is destroy reapers, live happily ever after... I didn't care about some stupid ghost child which in actual fact created more plot holes.

I mean, I wanted answers AND character closure but I didn't feel satisfied with either of those things.  Not with the deus ex machina child and not with the final ending.  That post-stargazing scene where the message said, "Conratulations, Shepard is a legend... keep playing with dlc" or whatever felt like a slap in the face.  I actually also really liked the ending to Lost; they didn't answer all the questions but they knew that the series was always more focused on the characters. 

I don't know, the more I think about the endings the more depressed I get.  I was planning to go back and replay all the games but I can't even bring myself to replay ME3 now that I know none of my choices have any relevance on the ending.  I figured I would be let down somewhat with ME3 because this was my most anticipated video game ever but to be let down on such a level is disheartening.

Remember the Roadmap to Love and Happiness?  "It’s not the destination—it’s the journey” makes me so frustrated now.



Was just catching up on this thread, thought I might add my two cents to this ^^

For a moment there, I thought I was the only one who liked the ending of Lost. Hell, I feel like the only person in the world who liked how Lost, BSG and DAII ended (although having the archmage and Meredith both turn on you no matter what was a little silly). Anyway, I wanted to say that I was perfectly happy with all those endings, and I surprised myself by how angry I felt about how Mass Effect ended. The more I think about it, the more I hate it. And the more I think about how I practically was forced into dooming a hell of a lot of people makes me more depressed than anything.

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Just tried to play ME3... got to mars then just wasn't feeling it. That kid at the beginning just gets on my nerves now. I was like 'ugh that fking kid, just die!'

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IsaacShep wrote...

The guy from Something Awful (who was right on 99% of stuff), posted these TIM/Anderson mechanics:

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If Anderson "survives" (he always dies, but if he survives long enough to speak with Shepard) then Shepard can survive the Destroy ending with an EMS of 4000. If Anderson dies before speaking with Shepard, Shepard will only survive the Destroy ending with an EMS of 5000 or more.

 Rescuing Anderson is kind of complicated but basically there's an interrupt that will allow you to save him. The length of this interrupt is determined by how many times you charmed/intimidated a certain person throughout the final confrontation. If you successfully hit the interrupt, Anderson survives. 

 However, if you managed to charm/intimidate a certain person throughout the entire game (there are six opportunities, three of which are in the final confrontation) then there will be a final charm/intimidate option available. Charming the person will cause them to commit suicide, intimidating them will cause an interrupt that will allow Shepard to shoot the person. I highly recommend the intimidate option over the charm, because you miss out on some stuff if the person dies instantly.
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Not sure if 100% true, but I think yes, he was right on so so mnay other things


Ah, so even though the paragon/renegade options were greyed out in the last part, it seems that I still got Anderson to speak with me (due to the renegade interrupt) and my EMS was like 4000+ and I did get the breathe clip.

My head hurts.

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Commodore Q wrote...

Just tried to play ME3... got to mars then just wasn't feeling it. That kid at the beginning just gets on my nerves now. I was like 'ugh that fking kid, just die!'


Hahaha, this made me laugh!

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Arikashika wrote...

I tried to be positive since I hadn't seen any spoilers about the ending. Just look what that got me I cried like a baby then went raging. My mom don't know anything about Mass Effect but she almost cried when I told her about the last conversation with Kaidan. And no surprise she did NOT understand the ending.

I'll replay the game up until the end then stop and close my eyes imagining the Normandy coming in to save Shepard in the last moment. Kaidan jumping out all flaming blue from biotics then saving Shepard. That is how it should be in my world! *sits back grumbling in a corner*


That's exactly how I felt when people started saying they hated the game. I stayed positive and avoided all ending spoilers. I thought, hey many people hated DA2 but I loved it so it's going to be the same with ME3. Wrong!! I think if I had been spoiled and knew the endings, the blow would have been lessened but still hurt of course. Like for ME2, I looked at spoilers so I knew what would happen at Horizon with Kaidan, so it didn't hurt that much. But this is so different. We all need some closure since Shepard's story is a trilogy. Unless that's not true anymore and they will continue it with ME4. But if that's the case, then we need to know.

But your ending is how I picture it in my head too. Joker came in and gathered everyone in to the Normandy and that scene in the jungle is a teaser. Shepard is inside the Normandy also but of course they won't show her because it will be revealed later with expansion pack, DLC, or future game. But that doesn't explain why Shepard is shown alive and taking a breath AFTER the jungle scene. I'm so confused! I just need my perfect ending!! 

I hope that theory that's going around is true. It makes sense to me when all the evidence people have gathered is analyzed.

Edit: spelling

Modifié par mayrabgood, 13 mars 2012 - 09:31 .


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Ahh so jumped on to ME2 to get my facecode, this is what my Femshep looked like in ME2.

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And using the exact same code, this is her in ME3.

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:pinched:
I don't like the hair in ME3, it seems too blonde lol I was tempted to change her hair and go with the Janeway look... Also while I was over at ME2, I couldn't believe how different the Normandy was... and brighter, what is with Alliance ships being so dark!

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Ok here's the big question.........is it worth it to import my Shenko file? I just can't watch the drama with Teddy and Kaidan.... :(

But I worked so hard to import all thos files..........

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MoreThanABoshtet wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

Just tried to play ME3... got to mars then just wasn't feeling it. That kid at the beginning just gets on my nerves now. I was like 'ugh that fking kid, just die!'


Hahaha, this made me laugh!


I ended up with a mission fail when I went to run through the second ending...
I spent too much time shooting at the kid instead of heading into the light ....

Modifié par Ianthia, 13 mars 2012 - 09:44 .


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Ianthia wrote...

MoreThanABoshtet wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

Just tried to play ME3... got to mars then just wasn't feeling it. That kid at the beginning just gets on my nerves now. I was like 'ugh that fking kid, just die!'


Hahaha, this made me laugh!


I ended up with a mission fail when I went to run through the second ending...
I spent too much time shooting at the kid instead of heading into the light ....


I turned around the second time through and shot the kid a couple of times as well.  It was cathartic!

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Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

Ok here's the big question.........is it worth it to import my Shenko file? I just can't watch the drama with Teddy and Kaidan.... :(

But I worked so hard to import all thos files..........


Yeah. It's worth it.

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Ianthia wrote...

MoreThanABoshtet wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

Just tried to play ME3... got to mars then just wasn't feeling it. That kid at the beginning just gets on my nerves now. I was like 'ugh that fking kid, just die!'


Hahaha, this made me laugh!


I ended up with a mission fail when I went to run through the second ending...
I spent too much time shooting at the kid instead of heading into the light ....


I also did this...<_<

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IsaacShep wrote...

Kia Purity wrote...
I couldn't persuade TIM at all and someone said that the middle option was supposed to be picked on Mars and I was all "oh gee ALL THAT WAY BACK? Stupid Bioware." I renegade shot him. X(

The guy from Something Awful (who was right on 99% of stuff), posted these TIM/Anderson mechanics:

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If Anderson "survives" (he always dies, but if he survives long enough to speak with Shepard) then Shepard can survive the Destroy ending with an EMS of 4000. If Anderson dies before speaking with Shepard, Shepard will only survive the Destroy ending with an EMS of 5000 or more.

 Rescuing Anderson is kind of complicated but basically there's an interrupt that will allow you to save him. The length of this interrupt is determined by how many times you charmed/intimidated a certain person throughout the final confrontation. If you successfully hit the interrupt, Anderson survives. 

 However, if you managed to charm/intimidate a certain person throughout the entire game (there are six opportunities, three of which are in the final confrontation) then there will be a final charm/intimidate option available. Charming the person will cause them to commit suicide, intimidating them will cause an interrupt that will allow Shepard to shoot the person. I highly recommend the intimidate option over the charm, because you miss out on some stuff if the person dies instantly.
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Not sure if 100% true, but I think yes, he was right on so so mnay other things

I did all Charm at the end, got TIM to go all Saren, but still did not "save" Anderson. TIM makes Shep shoot him before you can get to the suiciding part. :crying:
The only time I've seen Shep shoot TIM is when someone on YouTube chose the bottom right option at the first chance. Anyone else have something different happen?

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txmn1016 wrote...

Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

Ok here's the big question.........is it worth it to import my Shenko file? I just can't watch the drama with Teddy and Kaidan.... :(

But I worked so hard to import all thos files..........


Yeah. It's worth it.


Seconded. It is so worth it, though knowing the ending makes it a bit bittersweet, especially with that last conversation.:crying: But the good definitely outweighs the bad.:wub:

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AurinShepard wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Kia Purity wrote...
I couldn't persuade TIM at all and someone said that the middle option was supposed to be picked on Mars and I was all "oh gee ALL THAT WAY BACK? Stupid Bioware." I renegade shot him. X(

The guy from Something Awful (who was right on 99% of stuff), posted these TIM/Anderson mechanics:

--------------------
If Anderson "survives" (he always dies, but if he survives long enough to speak with Shepard) then Shepard can survive the Destroy ending with an EMS of 4000. If Anderson dies before speaking with Shepard, Shepard will only survive the Destroy ending with an EMS of 5000 or more.

 Rescuing Anderson is kind of complicated but basically there's an interrupt that will allow you to save him. The length of this interrupt is determined by how many times you charmed/intimidated a certain person throughout the final confrontation. If you successfully hit the interrupt, Anderson survives. 

 However, if you managed to charm/intimidate a certain person throughout the entire game (there are six opportunities, three of which are in the final confrontation) then there will be a final charm/intimidate option available. Charming the person will cause them to commit suicide, intimidating them will cause an interrupt that will allow Shepard to shoot the person. I highly recommend the intimidate option over the charm, because you miss out on some stuff if the person dies instantly.
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Not sure if 100% true, but I think yes, he was right on so so mnay other things

I did all Charm at the end, got TIM to go all Saren, but still did not "save" Anderson. TIM makes Shep shoot him before you can get to the suiciding part. :crying:
The only time I've seen Shep shoot TIM is when someone on YouTube chose the bottom right option at the first chance. Anyone else have something different happen?


But, that actually IS saving Anderson. I think.
I charmed TIM every chance before the end, and during the end passed all three checks. Yet I still shot Anderson in the gut, though he didn't die and no reprocussions came of the event (which I found REALLY odd, no blood, no bullet hole, no "OMG What did you just do?!" reaction from any of the three). I think it's scripted? Because I got the "best" ending with Shep alive.



On a side note, does anyone else find that their Shepard looks a LOT different in 3 than 1 and 2? I went back and watched some scenes I had recorded from ME2, and for some reason my Shep's forehead looks too wide and her chin seems deformed. I imported my Shep and only changed hair, eyebrow, and makeup colors, so technically she should look the same facial structure wise.
Imports are weird. But, hey, I actually like my ME3 look better now :wizard:

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Commodore Q wrote...

Just tried to play ME3... got to mars then just wasn't feeling it. That kid at the beginning just gets on my nerves now. I was like 'ugh that fking kid, just die!'


LoL I restarted my second pt just now and lemme tell you, there was some verbal abuse when that kid showed up in the screen. I'm horrible :blush: But he caused my Shepard's STUPID endings 

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catgirl789 wrote...

Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

I just beat ME3 for the first time................. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

*random gibberish. Twitches. Foams at the mouth*


I'm sorry. Here's a link to the hug thread since you've already gotten cookies.

Edit: @Arikashika Here's a link that does exactly that for you. I highly reccomend it as if our indoctrination/hallucination theory proves false then this is my new head canon.


That was beautiful. *sniff*

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I'm finding that the more I think about the endings the more confusing they become! I just feel abit glum but will def play again but just make the game end when she passes out and make my own ending.

Still baffled as to how or why Bioware though the majority of the fan base would like it...

But Kaidan was done so perfect. *cries*

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Wow. Another article about homophobic ME fans.

http://www.huffingto..._b_1342275.html

Some how I have never encountered this as an issue, except in the case of blatant trolls. What does everyone else think? Are ME fans as small minded as their made out to be? It just baffles me that THIS is what they're reporting on.

Modifié par txmn1016, 13 mars 2012 - 10:11 .