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[Chignon]

I thought it was confirmed that ME3 starts with Shepard's trial during which the Reapers attack and s/he'd have to fight his/her way out.

Edit:

Yep, found the source:

"Mass Effect 3 will start with Shepard on Earth, facing trial for the events that occur in The Arrival DLC for Mass Effect 2. The Reapers strike halfway through the trial, and the prologue covers Shepard’s battle to reach the Normandy and escape the planet."

Modifié par Chignon, 15 juin 2011 - 08:27 .

[CrimsonNephilim]

Spectre's are pretty much given free reign to solve problems in their own way. They are in a way the Council's scapegoat when they don't want to get their hands dirty or give some b/s on why they can't get involved with certain matters. When Saren killed Nihlus, I think the most they did concerning the matter was get a bit annoyed with it and then passed the task to Shepard to take down Saren since spectre's can take whatever actions they want on missions the council doesn't want to deal with for one reason or another.

[TornadoADV]

I'd go gay for Kaidan. Here's to hoping for same-sex romance in ME3.

[mineralica]

Chignon wrote...

I thought it was confirmed that ME3 starts with Shepard's trial during which the Reapers attack and s/he'd have to fight his/her way out.

It was. And even if you're turian councilor you'd never send one lover  to terminate another or subordinate to terminate his trusted CO - something unexpected may happen. The best way will be convince him Shepard is somehow in danger but too proud or ignorant to admit only Alliance could protect her, say and show evidences that several people there, say Anderson and Hackett, really on her side (LotSB dossier, Arrival) and then direct him to bring Shepard "under protection" - to terminate later in any way of their choice

[Chignon]

mineralica wrote...

Chignon wrote...

I thought it was confirmed that ME3 starts with Shepard's trial during which the Reapers attack and s/he'd have to fight his/her way out.

It was. And even if you're turian councilor you'd never send one lover  to terminate another or subordinate to terminate his trusted CO - something unexpected may happen. The best way will be convince him Shepard is somehow in danger but too proud or ignorant to admit only Alliance could protect her, say and show evidences that several people there, say Anderson and Hackett, really on her side (LotSB dossier, Arrival) and then direct him to bring Shepard "under protection" - to terminate later in any way of their choice

I don't understand that logic, to be honest. Why would he need to be convinced that Shepard needs protection and then "terminate Shepard later in any way of their choice"? 

Also,  I'd imagine the Council has bigger problems than Shepard the moment the Reapers attack.

Modifié par Chignon, 15 juin 2011 - 08:41 .

[Shssay-san]

IsaacShep wrote...

Shssay-san wrote...

 I was so thrilled to find this thread!  I was beginning to think that I was the only one who loved Kaidan after reading all the haters' comments floating around on the internet.  It seems like you can't read anything about Mass Effect without someone popping up to bad mouth him.   Thanks for sharing all the great fan pics/fics.  I needed something to tide me over until March...

Absolutely you're not alone! Kaidan has an army of devoted fangirls who are waiting for his return in ME3 and tons of devoted fanboys too who are waiting to finally get some Kaidan lovin' for their ManSheps in ME3  We're all here for him 

Amen to that!  

meonlyred wrote...

celticmoonbeams wrote...

What crimes did Shep commit? Shep doesn't commit any crime while working with or, more accurately, alongside grudgingly w/Cerberus but, if Shep got reinstated as a Spectre, the Council knows about it & wishes for "good luck in your investigation and for a speedy resolution to your relationship w/Cerberus. The Council writes off on it & they are who Shep answers to which the Alliance tends to forget A LOT. The Council countermands anything the Alliance can say about that.

The 305,000 batarians from the Arrival? Evidence against Shep is shoddy at best but even if the Alliance were able to do anything, guess who comes knocking & destroying the place displaying the biggest "I told you so" ever conceived? I think Kaidan will understand. He is a normally logical, intelligent man. Just my personal opinion.

The Arrival thing, but also there are several questionable things Shepard does throughout ME2, evidence can be brought up whether you paragoned or renegaded. Like converting the Geth, helping Garrus kill Sidonis, working with Aria, killing a fellow Spectre, etc. It depends on if the trial is just about Arrival or if they are going to bring up anything else. For whatever reason Casey Hudson is very cryptic about exactly why Shepard is on trial. He may have just been referring to Arrival but I wonder if more will be brought to the table. When it comes to character evidence, they can reach as far back as ME1. Some in the Alliance and Council thinks Shepard is at best out of control or crazy at worst.

Getting back on topic: Kaidan was very upset about just the rumors of Shepard's return and connection with Cerberus. I dunno that he will be exactly cool with 300k civilians killed, regardless of Shepard intendions. I'm not saying he would be mad, but I can see him demanding "WTF Shepard?!"

I was worried about how Kaidan was going to react to the death of 305,000 civilians too.  He'd already mentioned how Shep had changed on Horizon, and then that whole debacle in the Bahak system occurs.  That was out of character for my Shep at least...she always went out of her way to avoid killing civilians, being a goody-goody paragon and all.   All I could think when that happened was: "There's no way Kaidan's going to forgive me now!"

I hadn't realized that Kaidan was actually a higher rank than Shep.  I thought they were the same rank.  I don't think I'm going to like that...equal rank was fine but he's my CO now??  That's going to be awkward.  

[Chignon]

I'm curious. Why do people think it's awkward now that Kaidan is of a higher rank than Shepard?

When it was the other way around, it didn't seem to bother people all that much.

Modifié par Chignon, 15 juin 2011 - 09:00 .

[helenovision]

MarqueAZ wrote...

My humble contribution! Cant wait to get it signed by Sbarge next week at ABQ Comic Expo. Who else is going? He's also doing a panel on VAing.


Deviant Art

Is still painfully jealous that he's signing yours.  D:  

[mineralica]

Chignon wrote...

mineralica wrote...

Chignon wrote...

I thought it was confirmed that ME3 starts with Shepard's trial during which the Reapers attack and s/he'd have to fight his/her way out.

It was. And even if you're turian councilor you'd never send one lover  to terminate another or subordinate to terminate his trusted CO - something unexpected may happen. The best way will be convince him Shepard is somehow in danger but too proud or ignorant to admit only Alliance could protect her, say and show evidences that several people there, say Anderson and Hackett, really on her side (LotSB dossier, Arrival) and then direct him to bring Shepard "under protection" - to terminate later in any way of their choice

I don't understand that logic, to be honest. Why would he need to be convinced that Shepard needs protection and then "terminate Shepard later in any way of their choice"?
Also,  I'd imagine the Council has bigger problems than Shepard the moment the Reapers attack.

Damn. When oh when my English will get better?
The people - Council, Udina, whoever - who want to terminate Shepard but can't send just someone to kill her - because it may end up in Shepard survived and warned - will likely send Kaidan. Just because Shepard won't shoot him down immediately. It shouldn't be "Go kill Shepard" because this order, again, may end up in Kaidan just warning Shepard about such plans. So they convince Anderson, Hackett or both that something disasterous may happen tp Shepard and she won't be able not only defend herself but even understand the danger. Anderson/Hackett/any trusted person tells Kaidan Shepard needs to be saved - and in this case, the more Shepard tells there isn't any real danger, the more Kaidan thinks quite the opposite - that Shepard can't evaluate risks. So sooner or later Kaidan will either convince Shepard to go to Alliance or just brings her (again, with some kind of stasis field).
After it's done it's highly unlikely Kaidan will spend all the time with Shepard - even if so, it's highly unlikely he'll sample all food and water, check all the devices etc. And when named mysterious people will decide to terminate Shepard, they just add one lethal impulse somewhere and later will tell it was a Cerberus who did this and that was something like cyanide in teeth.
For "Council has bigger problems" - not at all. First, if they believe Reapers are arriving, it's urgent to terminate Shepard - or she'll become an idol who has too many influence on masses. I doubt Council will enjoy if someone will have more influence on masses than they - politicians... If they don't think the Reapers are coming, they may be worried that Shepard knows too many destabilising secrets and it looks like she's too connected with geth, krogans, guarians, etc. what makes her Saren Artherius 2.0 - rogue SpeCTRe gathering forces

[Chignon]

Brodyaha wrote...

Kaidan can order my Shepard around anywhere.

I like the way you think, Brodylein.

[Chignon]

mineralica wrote...

The people - Council, Udina, whoever - who want to terminate Shepard but can't send just someone to kill her - because it may end up in Shepard survived and warned - will likely send Kaidan. Just because Shepard won't shoot him down immediately. It shouldn't be "Go kill Shepard" because this order, again, may end up in Kaidan just warning Shepard about such plans. So they convince Anderson, Hackett or both that something disasterous may happen tp Shepard and she won't be able not only defend herself but even understand the danger. Anderson/Hackett/any trusted person tells Kaidan Shepard needs to be saved - and in this case, the more Shepard tells there isn't any real danger, the more Kaidan thinks quite the opposite - that Shepard can't evaluate risks. So sooner or later Kaidan will either convince Shepard to go to Alliance or just brings her (again, with some kind of stasis field).
After it's done it's highly unlikely Kaidan will spend all the time with Shepard - even if so, it's highly unlikely he'll sample all food and water, check all the devices etc. And when named mysterious people will decide to terminate Shepard, they just add one lethal impulse somewhere and later will tell it was a Cerberus who did this and that was something like cyanide in teeth.
For "Council has bigger problems" - not at all. First, if they believe Reapers are arriving, it's urgent to terminate Shepard - or she'll become an idol who has too many influence on masses. I doubt Council will enjoy if someone will have more influence on masses than they - politicians... If they don't think the Reapers are coming, they may be worried that Shepard knows too many destabilising secrets and it looks like she's too connected with geth, krogans, guarians, etc. what makes her Saren Artherius 2.0 - rogue SpeCTRe gathering forces

I see where you're coming from but I disagree.

I don't think he's that easily manipulated by some outside force. He's got a good, intelligent head on his shoulders and I'm pretty sure he knows how to use it.

Why would the Council need to terminate Shepard when they know the Reapers are coming? Especially when they can't deny their existence anymore if they're indeed attacking Earth. Wouldn't that be a bit counterproductive when Shepard is the one who possibly had the most dealings with them in the past?
Also, I do still believe that one human does pale in comparison to an intergalactic threat such as the Reapers.

[helenovision]

And also, our daily dose of Gobeur Kaidan.


http://gobeur.tumblr...who-asked-on-my

[FireEye]

Eh.  My Shepard's been saluting Kaidan ever since she saw his potential back during ME1.  She always figured he'd go far.  She'd be so proud to see her Staff-Major-Captain Alenko, all grown up and tough-tough on his own. 

[Chignon]

FireEye wrote...

Eh.  My Shepard's been saluting Kaidan ever since she saw his potential back during ME1.  She always figured he'd go far.  She'd be so proud to see her Staff-Major-Captain Alenko, all grown up and tough-tough on his own. 

I agree completely!

And helenovision, that picture is gorgeous. Thanks for sharing it with us!

[Rinji the Bearded]

helenovision wrote...

And also, our daily dose of Gobeur Kaidan.

*snip da UNF*
http://gobeur.tumblr...who-asked-on-my

Good god why can't they just kiss and get it over with

[FireEye]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Good god why can't they just kiss and get it over with

I blame Joker. 



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[shepskisaac]

RinjiRenee wrote...
Good god why can't they just kiss and get it over with

Seriously BioWare just make it happen, they're made for each other, how much more obvious could it be?!

Love the pic There's been so much ManShenko fan arts popping since s/s romances were confirmed I'm gonna be so fawking disappointed if it's not in ME3

[CrimsonNephilim]

I was thinking about this the other day. I wonder if they will even put into the storyline or reference it at all. Haven't seen anything on it.

[shepskisaac]

celticmoonbeams wrote...

Though switching a little on the gears here...

How do you guys think Kaidan might react upon learning about Liara's role in Shep's resurrection & association w/Cerberus & not telling him about it? My take is he's going to be more upset w/her for knowing & participating in it for 2 years & not think to maybe drop him a line or even a hint about what was going on. You know, not thinking that he of all people might like to know about it. Your guys thoughts?

I would sure ****slap Liara for not telling me Shep was saved if I was in Kaidan's place. And by looking at his Horizon flip out, he won't hold back his anger at Liara.

[Rinji the Bearded]

I would hope to stop any disagreement between Liara and Kaidan, as there were some circumstances that were more or less out of her control. But I also think Kaidan has a cool enough head to understand.