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[ZehnWaters]

leborum wrote...

ZehnWaters wrote...
I like these Take Back ME3 'Fleet' things. I feel like a Quarian.

Where can I get one?

I think you can just copy it from someone's signature.  I dunno how to make one.

[LadyofRivendell]

Darazelly wrote...

dirae wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

Just reading the thread about how unite the Geth and Quarians ( I did in my playthrough but interested to see what went into getting that outcome, I know a lot of people couldn't get peace)
I'm surprised how much actually does go into it, our decisions in ME2 at lest do have some impact, but not when it comes to the ending of the game. I love but also hate (I only have one renegade playthrough) that rewriting the Heretics turns out to be a negative.

(warning, not a theologist, never claimed to be)
I had the opposite reaction. I was shocked that rewriting the geth was pargaon in ME2. The heretic geth broke away from the main geth population because of misguided religious reasons ,which Legion respected-- and would continue to respect had their religiously guided actions put everyone and the nature of free-will at risk. Its dangerous to apply this to a real life analogy, but I'll do so for the heck of it : If a church broke away from it's leaders and became a dangerous cult, you may have to fight them if they threatened you. Maybe kill them to protect yourself. But if reason didn't work would you"rewrite" a person to stop being (insert name of their religion)?

The paragon points for that in ME2 just baffle me.

I think that was more due to how the game mechanics are set up than anything else. I mean, destroying Maelon's data is apparently the paragon choice if my friend remembers correctly, and that comes back and bites you as well. The destroying - overwriting options are both morally grey and... wait, haven't we had these options somewhere else in ME3?

On Maelon's data, I'm pretty sure it was Paragon. The first Para/Rene dialogue options in the conversation suggested it to be Rene, but if you go through the investigate options, the choices switch so that saving it is Para and destroying it is Rene.

[syllogi]

CrimsonNephilim wrote...

Yeah. Not touching my copy of ME3. Haven't even played it through once.

Not sure what I'm going to do with it. Seems like a waste of money to trade it in after paying over $100 on the CE and the guide.

I'm not going to finish the game. At first, I tried to tell myself that I could ignore the ending and just have fun with it, but I can't. Every time I play, I get depressed and stop. 

The thought of getting some kind of closure was the only reason I would have had to pick it up again. This blows. 

[LadyofRivendell]

leborum wrote...

ZehnWaters wrote...

I like these Take Back ME3 'Fleet' things. I feel like a Quarian.

Where can I get one?

Just right click -> Copy URL on one that you find in someone's sig (like mine). I got mine from a thread listing them all, but it's since been lost beneath the rubble.

[Ochre]

ZehnWaters wrote...

leborum wrote...

ZehnWaters wrote...
I like these Take Back ME3 'Fleet' things. I feel like a Quarian.

Where can I get one?

I think you can just copy it from someone's signature.  I dunno how to make one.

There's instructions and various fleets in this thread. 

social.bioware.com/forums/forum/1/topic/355/index/9762840

Modifié par Ochre, 15 mars 2012 - 11:00 .

[CrimsonNephilim]

syllogi wrote...

CrimsonNephilim wrote...

Yeah. Not touching my copy of ME3. Haven't even played it through once.

Not sure what I'm going to do with it. Seems like a waste of money to trade it in after paying over $100 on the CE and the guide.

I'm not going to finish the game. At first, I tried to tell myself that I could ignore the ending and just have fun with it, but I can't. Every time I play, I get depressed and stop. 

The thought of getting some kind of closure was the only reason I would have had to pick it up again. This blows. 

Yeah. Sucks that Bioware would let this franchise die out like this 

[dirae]

I'm gonna play all my Sheps until the goodbye kiss in London

[leighzard]

Thanks for the signature tips, y'all!
I'll be here holding the line.

Edit: Page needs Kaidan

By LadyWinde

Modifié par leborum, 15 mars 2012 - 11:05 .

[sanmar]

^ In my headcanon this happens <3

Modifié par sanmar, 15 mars 2012 - 11:08 .

[xenacrocker]

dstrawberrygirl wrote...

I would have coped with an ending where Shep died - perhaps her Prothean cypher was needed to finish the catalyst, draining her of her last breath, or perhaps her cybernetics were needed - what if Illusive brought her back because he knew she was needed to control (or choose to destroy) the Reapers. The problems I have are mostly centered around the kid - this unexplained glowing thing that came from nowhere, the Normandy flying off into who knows where with a LI who should have been on the streets of London likely injured from Harbinger... The ending does not fit the series.

I agree.  I liked that she sacrificed herself to save everyone, which was unexpected and dramatic (and like Heros from classic stories).  I think the ending could have been improved with a little more explaining. 
I like your suggestion of the cypher being crucial to interface with the being at the end.   They should Say the ghost child was a manifestation of Shepherds tortured psyche  or her projection from an imperfect interface with the synthetic being.   They could say at one point and time other races discovered the citadel housed the organizing synthetic for the reapers and made it the catalyst.  It should have said that Shepherd now had control b/c of crucible and it presented 3 ways to achieve her goals rather than making it sound like the ghost child was doing her a favor.  I also didn't get how Kaiden was running thru the kill zone with me and then ended up on the Normandy...or why Shepherd wouldn't ask over the com if he and Garrus were there. 
The way the ending was presented had some flaws but with some better story telling I would have been crying rather than saying "WTF!"  
I think calm suggestions to the developers rather than protests and vitriol will be moreeffect and more likely to be heard.

[dbrw]

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[hayleym103]

CrimsonNephilim wrote...

Yeah. Not touching my copy of ME3. Haven't even played it through once.

Not sure what I'm going to do with it. Seems like a waste of money to trade it in after paying over $100 on the CE and the guide.

aww you should try it at least. Yes the ending is horrible but the rest of the game is really good. There's so much emotion throughout the whole game, more so than in the other 2 I think and the missions themselves are really fun to play through. Plus Kaidan moments like below at least partly help to blunt the disappointing endings for me. I have a save before every Kaidan convo so I can go back and replay them whenever I want
 

Although saying that I did have a few more playthroughs I wanted to play before getting ME3, since I only have 2 Sheps, canon femshep and a renegade sheploo, at the moment I have no desire to put any more sheps through any of the games after I finish my first one.

*edit* oh finally first ever image posted, took 5 attempts but got the in the end!

Modifié par hayleym103, 15 mars 2012 - 11:24 .

[dstrawberrygirl]

xenacrocker wrote...
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The way the ending was presented had some flaws but with some better story telling I would have been crying rather than saying "WTF!"  
I think calm suggestions to the developers rather than protests and vitriol will be moreeffect and more likely to be heard.

I should have been crying at the end! Yes you hit it - I was crying on and off throughout the game, but at the end, I had nothing but WTF. That's the problem - a game that excelled at getting me to laugh and cry left me empty.

But yes, calm constructive feedback and ideas are the best approach for a potential solution, and this is usually what Kaidanites do so very well. As well as appreciate Mr Alenko's awesomeness.

[Major Alenko]

I doubt any of us will know, but what the hell... Does anyone know if there's any different dialogue with Kaidan, if you don't visit him in hospital.

I really don't know how anyone couldn't though

[Darazelly]

LadyofRivendell wrote...


On Maelon's data, I'm pretty sure it was Paragon. The first Para/Rene dialogue options in the conversation suggested it to be Rene, but if you go through the investigate options, the choices switch so that saving it is Para and destroying it is Rene.

Looked it up, whoops, my bad.

[Elessie]

dstrawberrygirl wrote...

xenacrocker wrote...
<snip>

The way the ending was presented had some flaws but with some better story telling I would have been crying rather than saying "WTF!"  
I think calm suggestions to the developers rather than protests and vitriol will be moreeffect and more likely to be heard.

I should have been crying at the end! Yes you hit it - I was crying on and off throughout the game, but at the end, I had nothing but WTF. That's the problem - a game that excelled at getting me to laugh and cry left me empty.

But yes, calm constructive feedback and ideas are the best approach for a potential solution, and this is usually what Kaidanites do so very well. As well as appreciate Mr Alenko's awesomeness.

Yes, this.  Most of the game... it made me laugh, it made me cry... it was quite a ride.  The ending... made me drink. 

[LadyofRivendell]

You know what my biggest problem with the ending is? The fate of the crew.

First off, Joker is trying to activate the relay when the blast occurs. In order to do this, he would have had to be flying away BEFORE Shep makes it to the Citadel. What? On top of that, the majority of us see our final squad exit the Normandy.
So, let me get this straight. Joker swooped down, picked up Kaidan and Liara, completely ignored Shepard wherever she was, and flew off? Thanks, guys, thanks for having my back. I knew I could count on you to support me during my final hour.
Why didn't anyone bother looking for Shepard? I don't see any one of the squad willing to just leave with Shepard's fate unknown. Liara risked her life infiltrating the Shadow Broker's base to recover Shepard's dead body on the chance that she could be brought back. Kaidan said he couldn't stand to lose her again. The entire crew (sans Vega and Javik) have been through hell and back with her, a few of them more than once. So... they'd choose just to leave.

And on top of all that, after exiting the ship, Kaidan looks at Joker and smiles. SMILES. He's got an adorable smile, sure, but would he really be that happy after losing Shepard twice? I'd think he'd at least feel a little depressed...

[Sandtigress]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

You know what my biggest problem with the ending is? The fate of the crew.

First off, Joker is trying to activate the relay when the blast occurs. In order to do this, he would have had to be flying away BEFORE Shep makes it to the Citadel. What? On top of that, the majority of us see our final squad exit the Normandy.
So, let me get this straight. Joker swooped down, picked up Kaidan and Liara, completely ignored Shepard wherever she was, and flew off? Thanks, guys, thanks for having my back. I knew I could count on you to support me during my final hour.
Why didn't anyone bother looking for Shepard? I don't see any one of the squad willing to just leave with Shepard's fate unknown. Liara risked her life infiltrating the Shadow Broker's base to recover Shepard's dead body on the chance that she could be brought back. Kaidan said he couldn't stand to lose her again. The entire crew (sans Vega and Javik) have been through hell and back with her, a few of them more than once. So... they'd choose just to leave.

And on top of all that, after exiting the ship, Kaidan looks at Joker and smiles. SMILES. He's got an adorable smile, sure, but would he really be that happy after losing Shepard twice? I'd think he'd at least feel a little depressed...

This is why in the green ending I just assume that the fates that be, be it the catalyst or whatever, decided to cut them all a break in the end and give them all a planet of their own to live out their days in relative peace.  Kaidan smiles because Shepard is back there behind him on the Normandy, dangit!

[Laelyn]

Hey you all!

I have a question that might have already been asked somewhere in this thread, but I didn't find anything about it while reading the last twenty-something pages, so please bear with me :/
I'm currently finishing my first complete playthrough (though I kinda don't want to, knowing about the endings. I'm just replaying the sexytimes-scene over and over instead....) with my canon kaidanmancer, and I fear I missed out on two  cutscenes with him. That's really bothering me, because I want every single piece of Kaidan I could possibly get xD
I found them on youtube but never saw them in my game.

The first one seems to take place directly after Kaidan rejoins the Normandy crew, where he's talking about his loved ones. The second one takes place after Jacob's sidequest and he's talking about Cerberus - Samantha even told me that Kaidan wanted to talk to me in the crew quarters, but all I got from him was something about getting some steak on the Citadel and no cutscene at all.
Is that a known bug with his conversation scenes or did I do something wrong? Do I have to make some kind of extra effort to get these scenes, are there any prerequisites? I just don't want to miss out on them even though they aren't romance-related as such. My Shepard just developed some kind of Kaidan-obsession, and so did I...

[LadyofRivendell]

Huh, I never got those conversations either... The first one sounds faintly familiar, but I don't remember having any actual cutscene-conversations with him aside from the romance scenes, most of what I got was just the auto-dialogue mini convos.

[Sandtigress]

Laelyn wrote...

The first one seems to take place directly after Kaidan rejoins the Normandy crew, where he's talking about his loved ones. The second one takes place after Jacob's sidequest and he's talking about Cerberus - Samantha even told me that Kaidan wanted to talk to me in the crew quarters, but all I got from him was something about getting some steak on the Citadel and no cutscene at all.
Is that a known bug with his conversation scenes or did I do something wrong? Do I have to make some kind of extra effort to get these scenes, are there any prerequisites? I just don't want to miss out on them even though they aren't romance-related as such. My Shepard just developed some kind of Kaidan-obsession, and so did I...

Hmm, all I can say is that I got those both and all that I know that I did was talk to him (PC player here).  I do tend to be a ridiculous completionist though, so it's possible I did something to trigger them without even knowing it.


On another subject (not to divert from yours), one of my favorite things in ME3 is the touch of white in Kaidan's hair.  Poor guy's had a bad couple of past years.  But being with Shepard makes it all better.  <3

[Genshie]

CrimsonNephilim wrote...

syllogi wrote...

CrimsonNephilim wrote...

Yeah. Not touching my copy of ME3. Haven't even played it through once.

Not sure what I'm going to do with it. Seems like a waste of money to trade it in after paying over $100 on the CE and the guide.

I'm not going to finish the game. At first, I tried to tell myself that I could ignore the ending and just have fun with it, but I can't. Every time I play, I get depressed and stop. 

The thought of getting some kind of closure was the only reason I would have had to pick it up again. This blows. 

Yeah. Sucks that Bioware would let this franchise die out like this 

 First off the franchise is hardly dead sales figures state that. EA would be stupid to not make more Mass Effect. Most review both professional and non-professional have give the game very high scores despite the endings. (Yes the non-professionals have said themselves they hate the ending but the love the game a ton.) I can give you several non-professional reviews that love this game along with videos of them stating why the ending sucked but the game is still great. People need to chill its only been a week and we will not hear anything until April at the earliest.

Modifié par Genshie, 15 mars 2012 - 11:46 .

[frylock23]

Well, what a way to brighten your day ...

I take it the silence has been lifted and BioWare really did think these were mind-blowingly awesome endings after all? I guess we poor, dumb old peasants are just not into that artsy, high-falutin' stuff. It's too bad that BioWare can't give itself awards because they sure aren't getting anymore money out of me anytime soon.

If a game can make me cry over secondary characters, then it damn sure ought to make me cry over the death of my protagonist ... not lose sleep and rage at the screen because I have no real clue what just happened and nothing makes sense. This isn't an ending it's a cop out.

Dammit! I was having fun on my replays, too. I was noticing some differences between my canon Shep and my Paragon Adept - interrupts that do and don't show up. Like the one where you can punch Han Gerrel in the 'nads ... Now I'm not so sure I want to go on. At the very least, I'm not going on after the good-byes in London.

Kaidan is about the only thing that makes this game worth anything right now.

[xenacrocker]

I never got those convos either!

Here is a link to youtube of ash confronting Male Shep about Miranda. I get that she would be pissed off bc Miranda is Cerberus. But I would have liked the same "Hey you walked out on me" option for Kaidan.

[frylock23]

Genshie wrote...

CrimsonNephilim wrote...

syllogi wrote...

CrimsonNephilim wrote...

Yeah. Not touching my copy of ME3. Haven't even played it through once.

Not sure what I'm going to do with it. Seems like a waste of money to trade it in after paying over $100 on the CE and the guide.

I'm not going to finish the game. At first, I tried to tell myself that I could ignore the ending and just have fun with it, but I can't. Every time I play, I get depressed and stop. 

The thought of getting some kind of closure was the only reason I would have had to pick it up again. This blows. 

Yeah. Sucks that Bioware would let this franchise die out like this 

 First off the franchise is hardly dead sales figures state that. EA would be stupid to not make more Mass Effect. Most review both professional and non-professional have give the game very high scores despite the endings. (Yes the non-professionals have said themselves they hate the ending but the love the game a ton.) I can give you several non-professional reviews that love this game along with videos of them stating why the ending sucked but the game is still great. People need to chill its only been a week and we will not hear anything until April at the earliest.

And how many people who bought it this time around are going to chip in more money next time?

I won't. There's no point. Why buy DLC if I don't really have much appetite to get to the end I know it's leading me to? If there was a proper ending, I could do it.

I remember this book I had as a little girl. It was a Sesame Street book with Grover where he spends the whole book trying desparately to get you to stop turning pages and moving toward the end because "there's a monster at the end of this book." At this point, all BioWare can do unless they fix this ending situation is try to give us the illusion that we'll never get to the "monstrous ending at the end of this game." Why take back Omega? Who cares?

And frankly when it comes to anything else they do, I have no faith that they know how to do a proper job with it, either.