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nomoredruggs wrote...

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dirae wrote...

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I don't need Shep to live. I just want to be able to take Kaidan with me.


That's horrible! Even if my Shepard dies, I want Kaidan to live a long happy life.

 

How long and happy would Kaidan's life be, exactly, if Shepard died on him a second time? He not only has to live through her death once, but twice, and this time, there's no one to bring her/him back. That just seems cruel to me...


It does seem cruel to let him survive Shepard's death again...


Yeah, maybe if he wasn't stranded on some tropical planet, it would've been easier for him to move on. But he's got nothing to do except think about Shepard and probably watch Garrus and Tali starve to death. That's pretty bleak...

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I had no desire to see Kaidan die in the game, even if Shepard has to die. I just would have liked to have her die in his arms. I know he would be devastated, however, I believe he would pick up the banner and continue on with everything Shepard had done.

Though being with him at the end Shepard would have been happy even if it meant Kaidan died. It all boils down to them being together at the end, no matter the direction it goes in.

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Kyria Nyriese wrote...

I had no desire to see Kaidan die in the game, even if Shepard has to die. I just would have liked to have her die in his arms. I know he would be devastated, however, I believe he would pick up the banner and continue on with everything Shepard had done.

 It all boils down to them being together at the end, no matter the direction it goes in.


That's fair. And I think Kaidan has it in him to continue the fight if Shepard failed. He would do his damndest as a Spectre, anyway. That's one thing I love-- appreciate about the character.

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Bellendaine wrote...

I have a question for anyone who's done Renegade Shep and still romanced Kaidan. I've done mostly Paragon stuff with him, being nice on Mars and bringing him the bottle of liquor, but when he said "Are we good" in the second hospital scene when he's awake, I said choose the renegade "Yeah, for now" option. I noticed that doing that instead of the paragon choice made the next set of dialogues (when you ask about his biotics) play differently, and he didn't say "Are you flirting with me, Commander?" I liked that, 'cause it will make the scene in Apollo's Cafe have more meaning to me, since that was the first real admission that he liked my ManShep.

So my question: will the romance still trigger later on if I don't pick the option that makes him say "Are you flirting with me?" I'd like to play hard to get a bit ... ;) Any input is appreciated!

I don't think anyone knows yet how exactly each line gets teiggered unfortunately :/ It seems that picking bottom options may lock you out of romancing him, but I haven't tested it myself so I have no idea if it's 100% confirmed or not

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I can see him being reckless though and taking dangerous missions so if he dies he won't care.

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LinkSnake1016 wrote...

I can see him being reckless though and taking dangerous missions so if he dies he won't care.


Now this I agree on as well, not like he would actively seek death, but he wouldn't walk away from it either.  So yeah, he would take on the most dangerous, impossible and difficult missions, with the tiny bit of hope that this time the pain will end.

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Queenie4000 wrote...

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Has anybody seen the videos for Cortez's romance, is it just me or is 'Today is a good day' and Shepard replying 'Tonight could be better' the worse line ever? It couldn't be more cheesy...

Off-topic but is there any Witcher 2 fans here? I know it got a lot of praise on PC so is it worth getting for the 360? Does it have a good ending? :P


Yes, if anyone has played Witcher 2 I also would like to know if i can play w/out being uber depressed.  Comes out in April for the xbox so I had thought about...but I CAN NOT DO ANOTHER SAD ENDING.  

And on Bioware.  I'm done.  The statement Casey Hudson made just completely deflated me.  I personally think they will stand there ground and say, done is done.  I would love to be proved wrong but his statement makes it abundantly clear THIS was the intended ending so the DLC truth or whatever must be simply some troll or rumor.  

I am just so depressed now.  I've been holding out hope since before the game came out when I read the spoilers - thinking I could somewhow find some ending different than the ones I had seen.  Then w/ all the fan rage, the tweets I hoped at the very least they might entertain the notion of pleasing their fans...now...I feel hopeless.  The only reason to play ME3 for me now is the Kaidan romance...I'll just quit befoe the end and head canon it i guess.


I <3 Geralt!!  (and Iorveth :wub:)  I am a woman gamer. :wizard:

Did you play the 1st Witcher?  (I don't remember if it ever got made for XBox or not)  I think 2 will be a little disorienting at 1st because of the politics, and Geralt's relationship with Triss may not seem as deep as it is. Maybe not, tho...

I was wondering if I'd like the series because you have to play as Geralt, but I think it's one of the best rpg's out there atm. Great rpg elements (crafting, etc.), great gameplay, and a deep, interesting story.  

I was totally satisfied with my ending. There are 16 - and unlike ME3 they are quite different from one another. In fact in the 1st chapter you have to make a choice and that choice will lock you out of other quests in the game.  Fantastic replayability!  I decided to hold off replaying since they are giving us 4 hours of new content with the XBox release.  CDR claims they will never have paid DLC only expansions which will give you 20 hrs+ of new content. Bethesda is doing this too.  (I wish Bioware would have gotten bought out by a more customer friendly company. *sniffs*)

Anyway...TW2 totally has my endorsement!!

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You need to check out this thread!

http://social.biowar...ndex/10084349/1

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Yeah, on that note I was rather disappointed that the only time they ever touch on Shepard's state after the Collector attack is if you bring him along for the Cerberus base and view the logs (as far as I know, might've missed something). Sure, incredibly sweet how he goes "You're real enough for me" or somesuch (and all the following "I should've been there with you" stuff as you progress), but I'd have hoped there'd be a chance for Shep to put all the cards on the table and explain the extent of project Lazarus to him.


Hence why I wrote my little bridge piece.  I figure that after accepting that Shepard wasn't lying to him before, he was willing to drop the matter in a show of trust to her.  But I did need  way to reconcile "You're with Cerberus" Kaidan with "Let's move past Horizon" Kaidan at the Citadel.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Bellendaine wrote...

I have a question for anyone who's done Renegade Shep and still romanced Kaidan. I've done mostly Paragon stuff with him, being nice on Mars and bringing him the bottle of liquor, but when he said "Are we good" in the second hospital scene when he's awake, I said choose the renegade "Yeah, for now" option. I noticed that doing that instead of the paragon choice made the next set of dialogues (when you ask about his biotics) play differently, and he didn't say "Are you flirting with me, Commander?" I liked that, 'cause it will make the scene in Apollo's Cafe have more meaning to me, since that was the first real admission that he liked my ManShep.

So my question: will the romance still trigger later on if I don't pick the option that makes him say "Are you flirting with me?" I'd like to play hard to get a bit ... ;) Any input is appreciated!

I don't think anyone knows yet how exactly each line gets teiggered unfortunately :/ It seems that picking bottom options may lock you out of romancing him, but I haven't tested it myself so I have no idea if it's 100% confirmed or not


Thanks Isaac! Guess I'll just be nice to be safe then. Appreciate the response.

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Just got that "Wake me" line and It was fantastically squee worthy! I reloaded 3 times lol

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Dorko525 wrote...

Just got that "Wake me" line and It was fantastically squee worthy! I reloaded 3 times lol


I've been (over)thinking about that line...the implication to me at first was that Kaidan had moved to bunking with Shepard permanently.  However at the end he comes in and they talk about not sleeping as if Kaidan is sleeping elsewhere.

So what are everyone's thoughts?  For my Shepard, I just don't think that the ocassional booty call or invitation to come up would be very in character.  He's been devoted to her for three years, even when she was dead.  She's been nothing but devoted to him for the whole time she's been conscious.  They'd either be together the whole time or exploring the depth of their relationship and not together until that night (I don't see that option as very likely).

So in my head, I guess, maybe Kaidan moved down to try and let up some stress on Shepard - giving her her own space again, or maybe she asked him to because she wasn't sleeping and didn't want to keep him up.  It's either that or she was supposed to wake him before a mission in his separate sleeping quarters and didn't and that's what he was mad about.

See, overthinking!  It is a cute line though.

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Nah, they're at it like rabbits, and have been at least since his 'can't stop grinning' line! :devil:  I suppose, since technically they're breaking regs, he usually goes back to his own bunk before the shift change and this time she didn't wake him up...

Modifié par Lilaeth, 17 mars 2012 - 08:23 .


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Does anyway one have a Happy Ending for Shepard & Kaidan Signatures? Or anyone willing to make one?

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Lilaeth wrote...

Nah, they're at it like rabbits, and have been at least since his 'can't stop grinning' line! :devil:  I suppose, since technically they're breaking regs, he usually goes back to his own bunk before the shift change and this time she didn't wake him up...


Honestly, at this point, I think they'd overlook a little indescrection on Shepard's behalf.  She's saving the entire universe from the Reapers.  If she needs a little romance on the side to keep her sane, I think Anderson and Hackett would give her that, as long as it didn't interfere.

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Sandtigress wrote...

Lilaeth wrote...

Nah, they're at it like rabbits, and have been at least since his 'can't stop grinning' line! :devil:  I suppose, since technically they're breaking regs, he usually goes back to his own bunk before the shift change and this time she didn't wake him up...


Honestly, at this point, I think they'd overlook a little indescrection on Shepard's behalf.  She's saving the entire universe from the Reapers.  If she needs a little romance on the side to keep her sane, I think Anderson and Hackett would give her that, as long as it didn't interfere.


You would think so - and I doubt anyone on the crew would say anything about it anyway!

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Kyria Nyriese

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Lilaeth wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

Lilaeth wrote...

Nah, they're at it like rabbits, and have been at least since his 'can't stop grinning' line! :devil:  I suppose, since technically they're breaking regs, he usually goes back to his own bunk before the shift change and this time she didn't wake him up...


Honestly, at this point, I think they'd overlook a little indescrection on Shepard's behalf.  She's saving the entire universe from the Reapers.  If she needs a little romance on the side to keep her sane, I think Anderson and Hackett would give her that, as long as it didn't interfere.


You would think so - and I doubt anyone on the crew would say anything about it anyway!


I am of the 'they are preceding with discretion' theory myself.  Not
that they are trying to hide the relationship, more along the lines of
not rubbing it in everyone's nose.  So 'officially' Kaidan has his space
separate from Shepard's, however, they are actually sharing hers.

Just my thought anyway.

*edit for Quote fail /sigh

Modifié par Kyria Nyriese, 17 mars 2012 - 08:38 .


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Kyria Nyriese wrote...


I am of the 'they are preceding with discretion' theory myself.  Not
that they are trying to hide the relationship, more along the lines of
not rubbing it in everyone's nose.  So 'officially' Kaidan has his space
separate from Shepard's, however, they are actually sharing hers.

Just my thought anyway.


This works for me. And maybe he tries to stay out of her hair from time to time if she seems too stressed out.  But I love that he comes up to help her relax at the end.  He knows fretting about everything won't help anymore and will probably just make things worse.  So Kaidan to the rescue.  <3

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LinkSnake1016 wrote...

Does anyway one have a Happy Ending for Shepard & Kaidan Signatures? Or anyone willing to make one?


Or if someone can make a signature with either the quote "I can't lose you again" or "I'm going to fight like hell to hold you in my arms again?"

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LinkSnake1016 wrote...

You need to check out this thread!

http://social.biowar...ndex/10084349/1


That first post sums things up excellently.  I agree with the war stategist most.  Give no quarter.  You don't have to hate your enemy to oppose them.  The moment we let up is the moment they won't deliver.  They don't WANT to change the ending and they WON'T if they don't have to.  Hold the line.  Be civil, acknowledge that they're human and have feelings too, but don't budge.

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Sandtigress wrote...

This works for me. And maybe he tries to stay out of her hair from time to time if she seems too stressed out.  But I love that he comes up to help her relax at the end.  He knows fretting about everything won't help anymore and will probably just make things worse.  So Kaidan to the rescue.  <3


Exactly, from time to time people need time to themselves.  However, once in a while, one thinks they need time alone when they really need the other one there for them.  This was the case of the romance scene.  He came up because he knew that despite the fact Shepard thought she needed to deal with this alone, she really needed him there.

/sigh This game brings out the romantic in me /sigh <3:wub:

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Oh absolutely, they've been hooking up since the Apollo Cafe date imo. I imagine that they're still trying to keep their relationship on the DL for the sake of the crew, just because that would fit their personalities. But in my headcanon, the crew is totally aware and just grinning behind their backs. :D

Sandtigress wrote...

Darazelly wrote...

Yeah, on that note I was rather disappointed that the only time they ever touch on Shepard's state after the Collector attack is if you bring him along for the Cerberus base and view the logs (as far as I know, might've missed something). Sure, incredibly sweet how he goes "You're real enough for me" or somesuch (and all the following "I should've been there with you" stuff as you progress), but I'd have hoped there'd be a chance for Shep to put all the cards on the table and explain the extent of project Lazarus to him.


Hence why I wrote my little bridge piece.  I figure that after accepting that Shepard wasn't lying to him before, he was willing to drop the matter in a show of trust to her.  But I did need  way to reconcile "You're with Cerberus" Kaidan with "Let's move past Horizon" Kaidan at the Citadel.


Thane also mentioned talking to Kaidan, so I'm wondering if this helped with his attitude adjustment. I can see him recognizing Kaidan from the photo in Shepard's quarters (gogo photographic memory), seeing him in the hospital, and talking to him because he's worried about Shepard after what's happened on Earth (because why else would he randomly go chat someone up in ICU?). That interaction would have been an interesting one imo.

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Lilaeth wrote...

Nah, they're at it like rabbits, and have been at least since his 'can't stop grinning' line! :devil:  I suppose, since technically they're breaking regs, he usually goes back to his own bunk before the shift change and this time she didn't wake him up...



I think this one is up for personal interpretation (or however you spell that word, I'm too lazy to look it up). I, personally, don't see my Shep acting like that, but others can see it differently. Ah, ambiguity...

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Niraven wrote...

Thane also mentioned talking to Kaidan, so I'm wondering if this helped with his attitude adjustment. I can see him recognizing Kaidan from the photo in Shepard's quarters (gogo photographic memory), seeing him in the hospital, and talking to him because he's worried about Shepard after what's happened on Earth (because why else would he randomly go chat someone up in ICU?). That interaction would have been an interesting one imo.


I have a little headcanon story where Thane crosses paths with Kaidan from a distance.  In my head, Thane is very attracted to Shepard and so he asks Garrus who Kaidan is, revealing the romance.

So it was very <3 to me when Thane offers to protect Kaidan since he's a large part of the reason that Shepard would never be with Thane.

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Sandtigress wrote...

Niraven wrote...
Thane also mentioned talking to Kaidan, so I'm wondering if this helped with his attitude adjustment. I can see him recognizing Kaidan from the photo in Shepard's quarters (gogo photographic memory), seeing him in the hospital, and talking to him because he's worried about Shepard after what's happened on Earth (because why else would he randomly go chat someone up in ICU?). That interaction would have been an interesting one imo.

I have a little headcanon story where Thane crosses paths with Kaidan from a distance.  In my head, Thane is very attracted to Shepard and so he asks Garrus who Kaidan is, revealing the romance.

So it was very <3 to me when Thane offers to protect Kaidan since he's a large part of the reason that Shepard would never be with Thane.


HeadCanon F!Shep cheated with Thane and when she talks about it with Kaidan, Kaidan is mature enough to realize there is no 'one and only' and gives Shep enough room to be with Thane before he dies and then lets her come back to him on her terms once Thane does.