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[Arikashika]

 I'm on my second playthrough only because of Kaidan. Loved what they did with his romance and actually like the game too. But I don't think I'll ever be able to finish the game again as long as the ending remains like that.

After the last scene with Kaidan I stop and imagine the ending I came up with.
I feel sad that Bioware really seems to think that Mass Effect deserved an ending like that one. 

[martulina_16]

LolaLei wrote...

martulina_16 wrote...

I heard that Bioware will launch a new DLC called "The Truth" (maybe in April) Is that a fake or not? :S

Hard to say, everyone thought that ME3 leaked script was fake and that turned out to be true. You'd think Bioware would try harder to keep their plans secret if it is true, look at all the backlash they've had so far thanks to leaked information lol.

If It's a fake, and Bioware has no intentions to fix it, There's only one thing I have to say.
They better don't expect,  that I will buy any game of them anymore, even the dragon age series

Modifié par martulina_16, 18 mars 2012 - 09:08 .

[passinjer]

i thought the game was really good, especially the romance with kaidan which was like heaven . so sweet.
obviously didnt like the crappy ending. but i also felt like the whole game was made too simple, like it was away too much from rpg. also i didnt like how you would walk pass people and pick up quests, i felt like i was the Commander of Eavesdropping. And there was too much auto dialogue, i really like talking to each squadmate after each mission in me1 but there wasnt much of that in me3. Also the choices between renegade and paragon conversation wasnt much different, most of the time it didnt make any sense to do the bottom option even if i wanted to be a jackass. the missions seemed a lot shorter than the previous 2 games.

Modifié par passinjer, 18 mars 2012 - 09:10 .

[Anacruisis]

Bekkael wrote...

LinkSnake1016 wrote...I wish they were so choked up that they actually wanted to change the outcome!

Indeed.

I've mostly been lurking around the interwebz and BSN for the past few days. I started a second playthrough of ME3 last week, but I haven't had the heart to continue it. I just can't forgive them for the ending, unless they make it right. I never, ever thought I would be thinking this way, but this may be my last BioWare game if this is the direction the company has chosen to go.

I can't pay money to be made miserable, I just can't.

How is everyone else dealing with all of this?

I was really pissed
its not worth to spend $79.99 (I got the digital deluxe) and get crappy ending <_<
anybony knows how to get kelly through gibbed save editor?

[passinjer]

i found a fanfiction about the ending if anyone wants a read. only 2 chapters so far. its by impsy. her other stories are very enjoyable. and better yet it has lots of Kaidan goodness.
http://www.fanfictio.../1/Consequences

[Bekkael]

LolaLei wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

LinkSnake1016 wrote...I wish they were so choked up that they actually wanted to change the outcome!

Indeed.

I've mostly been lurking around the interwebz and BSN for the past few days. I started a second playthrough of ME3 last week, but I haven't had the heart to continue it. I just can't forgive them for the ending, unless they make it right. I never, ever thought I would be thinking this way, but this may be my last BioWare game if this is the direction the company has chosen to go.

I can't pay money to be made miserable, I just can't.

How is everyone else dealing with all of this?

Honestly? I've been handling it pretty badly. I suffer from depression anyway so the ending didn't help, especially as I play games to perk myself up a bit.

Even though they ballsed up DA2 I was really looking forward to DA3 because I was kinda hoping we'd get Cullen as a team mate, I always thought he'd make a fantastic LI, especially if you played as a Mage due to his templar beliefs and the fact that he used to fancy your Warden if you played as a female Mage. But if Bioware don't sort out ME3's ending I don't think I could face playing another Bioware game, especially if they are gonna start trying to do nonsensical "artsy" endings from now on.

I take medication for depression, and I also use video games as an escape and a pick-me-up. I know exactly where you are coming from, and I feel your pain. *hugs*

Also, I have had high hopes for Cullen in DA3 (see my massive amount of fan fiction as proof), but I'm wary now. This has damaged my trust more than I ever thought possible. I have been a rabid BioWare fangirl for many years, but this just... I'm afraid to trust them and get hurt again.

I can't even play ME3 for Kaidan at this point, because it's all for nothing.

[tigertots]

martulina_16 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

martulina_16 wrote...

I heard that Bioware will launch a new DLC called "The Truth" (maybe in April) Is that a fake or not? :S

Hard to say, everyone thought that ME3 leaked script was fake and that turned out to be true. You'd think Bioware would try harder to keep their plans secret if it is true, look at all the backlash they've had so far thanks to leaked information lol.

If It's a fake, and Bioware has no intentions to fix it, There's only one thing I have to say.
They better don't expect,  that I will buy any game of them anymore, even the dragon age series

They have tweeted a dlc called The Truth is a fake:

https://twitter.com/...035997151232000 

[Chernaya]

Well, that's a shame. :/ Doesn't mean they don't have anything else up their sleeves though, it could just mean it's not called "The Truth."

The way all of the goodbyes were so emotional, and then the end... argh. Kaidan's goodbye was so sad. If they got one thing in the game right, it was evoking people's emotions.

[Anacruisis]

replaying me2 again
*sigh*
time to put me3 away for a while

[LolaLei]

Bekkael wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

LinkSnake1016 wrote...I wish they were so choked up that they actually wanted to change the outcome!

Indeed.

I've mostly been lurking around the interwebz and BSN for the past few days. I started a second playthrough of ME3 last week, but I haven't had the heart to continue it. I just can't forgive them for the ending, unless they make it right. I never, ever thought I would be thinking this way, but this may be my last BioWare game if this is the direction the company has chosen to go.

I can't pay money to be made miserable, I just can't.

How is everyone else dealing with all of this?

Honestly? I've been handling it pretty badly. I suffer from depression anyway so the ending didn't help, especially as I play games to perk myself up a bit.

Even though they ballsed up DA2 I was really looking forward to DA3 because I was kinda hoping we'd get Cullen as a team mate, I always thought he'd make a fantastic LI, especially if you played as a Mage due to his templar beliefs and the fact that he used to fancy your Warden if you played as a female Mage. But if Bioware don't sort out ME3's ending I don't think I could face playing another Bioware game, especially if they are gonna start trying to do nonsensical "artsy" endings from now on.

I take medication for depression, and I also use video games as an escape and a pick-me-up. I know exactly where you are coming from, and I feel your pain. *hugs*

Also, I have had high hopes for Cullen in DA3 (see my massive amount of fan fiction as proof), but I'm wary now. This has damaged my trust more than I ever thought possible. I have been a rabid BioWare fangirl for many years, but this just... I'm afraid to trust them and get hurt again.

I can't even play ME3 for Kaidan at this point, because it's all for nothing.

Thank you *hugs*

It's weird, I think I'm still partly in a state of disbelief. At times I feel like this has all been a horrible mistake and that Bioware just forgot to put the decent endings in or something lol.

[LadyofRivendell]

EionaCousland wrote...

Well, that's a shame. :/ Doesn't mean they don't have anything else up their sleeves though, it could just mean it's not called "The Truth."

The way all of the goodbyes were so emotional, and then the end... argh. Kaidan's goodbye was so sad. If they got one thing in the game right, it was evoking people's emotions.

No kidding, and I think that turned out to be a double edged blade for them. The fact that we all love the rest of the game so much makes us dislike the endings more, therefore we're more outspoken with our dislike. If the entire game was only okay, then there probably wouldn't be as much of an outcry.

I definitely think they're doing something, as the responses we've gotten from Chris and Jess imply that they truly DO care. And why wouldn't they care? Bioware has never been a company solely focused on profits; just because EA bought them out doesn't mean their morales and values changed. Now they've just got a gorilla banging on their backs.
Bioware is really a company run by fans, the entire Mass Effect series proves that. What people around here need to realize is that these decisions don't come quickly. They can't all come to the mutual agreement, "Yeah, we'll make a new ending, and this will be the plot!" Anyone who's worked in a group of more than three people knows the pains of group coordinating, it just takes one person to oppose an opinion and you've got a can of worms. 

[Dorko525]

tigertots wrote...

martulina_16 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

martulina_16 wrote...

I heard that Bioware will launch a new DLC called "The Truth" (maybe in April) Is that a fake or not? :S

Hard to say, everyone thought that ME3 leaked script was fake and that turned out to be true. You'd think Bioware would try harder to keep their plans secret if it is true, look at all the backlash they've had so far thanks to leaked information lol.

If It's a fake, and Bioware has no intentions to fix it, There's only one thing I have to say. 
They better don't expect,  that I will buy any game of them anymore, even the dragon age series

They have tweeted a dlc called The Truth is a fake:

https://twitter.com/...035997151232000 

<_< Well that's a downer but it did seem too easy. I'm already back to feeling depressed. I just finished Thessia. Kai Leng makes me so mad, I could've taken him even on Insanity (of course I kept having to revive Liara grr).  Bloody cheating bastard    Btw does anyone know if you'd be able to save those Asari's who were providing air support? Does stupid harvesters ****** me off. 

[yoshibb]

I know how you guys feel. The entertainment industry has been going in this direction that everything must be realistic and gritty. Therefore, happy endings are few and far between anymore. I don't need to be reminded how ****ty the world is out there when I'm trying to have fun. Shepard gave up, plain and simple. That's what made me angry. My Shepard doesn't give up. She is a symbol of triumph in a desperate, broken galaxy.

Had my Shepard been up there, she would've said "No. I collected all these people and races from all over. I united them and fixed their century old grievances. This is a force like you have never seen before and I will not be forced into one of your bull****, offensive, senseless choices just cause you say so. We will fight you til the last Reaper is dead or we will die trying." Then she would've called the Normandy and they would've rammed Harbinger straight up the ass.

[LadyofRivendell]

I think you can save the second air support Asari, and she'll come to lure away Leng's helicopter. She dies either way, I believe, but at least she can make the fight easier at the end.

Liara kept dying on you, too? Her powers are great, but she has 375 health and shields, even on Normal she's always down in any big fight.

[leighzard]

EionaCousland wrote...

Well, that's a shame. :/ Doesn't mean they don't have anything else up their sleeves though, it could just mean it's not called "The Truth."

The way all of the goodbyes were so emotional, and then the end... argh. Kaidan's goodbye was so sad. If they got one thing in the game right, it was evoking people's emotions.

I don't mind a little bit of tear jerking.  The conversation with Anderson on the Citadel really got me, and that was the version that was cut down apparently, but I can't stress how cheated I felt after the end.  I was crying for the wrong reason. 

Even if "the truth" is a lie (much like the cake), I still have faith that BW will release some DLC that will answer fans' concerns.  I am an eternal optimist, which usually comes back to bite me in the ass.  I just don't understand why they would choose to end it on that note.  I have no problems with missing sunshine and rainbows, but in DA:O, for example, I got to choose what was important to me.  Did my Warden probably screw all of Thedas?  Sure she did, but she got to make that decision because being with Alistair was more important to her than being a big guddamned hero.  In all the other ME games, my choices had a huge impact on the outcome.  I was a **** to Miranda?  Well, maybe she didn't make it.  Did I save Kaidan on Virmire? Of course, as a result I only have one save with Ash and she was my sistah.  What BioWare does better than any other developer (besides creating pixellated bundles of man hottness) is giving players' choices weight.  I got so mad at Anders that I gave him the martyrdom he wanted?  Done.  But I also had the choice to flee the city with him. That's why I just don't get this colored explosion nonsense.  And the teaser with Shep alive in the rubble....  Well there's got to be something bigger going on there.  Plus, BioWare can't ignore the fan base.  $55K raised for a charity?  If voting with your wallet means anything, I think the BSN and other Retake Mass Effect Supporters have made a statement that can't be ignored. 

I was bent out of shape for a couple of days about the ending, if this had happened a little earlier in the year, when I was struggling with some personal issues, it might have been longer and I'd have to check myself into a center.  So my heart go out to everyone who's struggling with it.  I've decided to remember that 98% of the game was absolutely amazing.  And I'm just playing up until the return to Earth.  After London, I'm done with the game until I get new about whether things are changing.  

TL;DR: I'm still holding the line, but I'm cautiously optimistic and focussing on all the win that was present in ME3.

[Bekkael]

LolaLei wrote...

Thank you *hugs*

It's weird, I think I'm still partly in a state of disbelief. At times I feel like this has all been a horrible mistake and that Bioware just forgot to put the decent endings in or something lol.

I've been boucing back and forth between depression, anger, and disbelief since I finished the game on the 8th. This video and others like it, have provided my only catharsis.

I really want to replay DA:O, but I just haven't gotten up the gumption to do it yet. Maybe in a few weeks.

[Chernaya]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

EionaCousland wrote...

Well, that's a shame. :/ Doesn't mean they don't have anything else up their sleeves though, it could just mean it's not called "The Truth."

The way all of the goodbyes were so emotional, and then the end... argh. Kaidan's goodbye was so sad. If they got one thing in the game right, it was evoking people's emotions.

No kidding, and I think that turned out to be a double edged blade for them. The fact that we all love the rest of the game so much makes us dislike the endings more, therefore we're more outspoken with our dislike. If the entire game was only okay, then there probably wouldn't be as much of an outcry.

I definitely think they're doing something, as the responses we've gotten from Chris and Jess imply that they truly DO care. And why wouldn't they care? Bioware has never been a company solely focused on profits; just because EA bought them out doesn't mean their morales and values changed. Now they've just got a gorilla banging on their backs.
Bioware is really a company run by fans, the entire Mass Effect series proves that. What people around here need to realize is that these decisions don't come quickly. They can't all come to the mutual agreement, "Yeah, we'll make a new ending, and this will be the plot!" Anyone who's worked in a group of more than three people knows the pains of group coordinating, it just takes one person to oppose an opinion and you've got a can of worms. 

Exactly. I have high hopes, and I know, especially with this number, they have taken notice and will do something.  I'm still not sure if they've been plotting something all along, or they were expecting this reaction, but whatever the case may be -- I still love this game to bits. It is awesome on so many levels. And you're right, the fact we care so much about the closing proves how good of a game it is. And because of that, I'm gonna stick with it and hope something awesome comes along. I have no doubts it will, because they do amazing things all the time.

I know many of them are under stress right now because of the fans, and I feel for them. But I know they want everyone to be happy. I'm glad they're listening and collaborating with everyone at least a little bit so far. It's a lot to take in at once, lol.

I've never been more attached to the characters of a game when it comes to Bioware. They've got some awesome writers ~

[Anacruisis]

throughout this week my reaction is only this

sorry for abusing my shep <_<

[MissLiya]

why Kaidan is so damn hot 

Modifié par MissLiya, 18 mars 2012 - 10:07 .

[sanmar]

MageTarot wrote...

Persefone82 wrote...

Hi everyone! Sorry for my English, I'm a foreigner Kaidan's fan! :-)
Thank you for all your posts, it's always a pleasure to meet ME lovers!

Welcome, Persefone82!

No need to apologize for your English. Here we all speak one language - Kaidanese! 

Hi, Persefone82!

No problem. I'm also not a native speaker



by mappeli

[Dorko525]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

I think you can save the second air support Asari, and she'll come to lure away Leng's helicopter. She dies either way, I believe, but at least she can make the fight easier at the end.

Liara kept dying on you, too? Her powers are great, but she has 375 health and shields, even on Normal she's always down in any big fight.

Ooooh! I'm going to have to try harder then! I wanna see that. I always thought it was scripted and I took my time killing the 2 harvesters and the mutant rachni...gotta take cover coz you know Liara is so squishy and I'm an adept too lol. Yeah Liara wasn't so bad on hardcore but my second pt is for the insanity achievement so she pretty much spends half the big battles on her back lol <_<

[MageTarot]

Bekkael wrote...

LinkSnake1016 wrote...I wish they were so choked up that they actually wanted to change the outcome!

Indeed.

I've mostly been lurking around the interwebz and BSN for the past few days. I started a second playthrough of ME3 last week, but I haven't had the heart to continue it. I just can't forgive them for the ending, unless they make it right. I never, ever thought I would be thinking this way, but this may be my last BioWare game if this is the direction the company has chosen to go.

I can't pay money to be made miserable, I just can't.

How is everyone else dealing with all of this?

In my instance, I dealt with it very, very badly. The funny thing (if it could even be called that) was that I didn't experience the endings first hand. After hearing all the poisonous word-of-mouth about them I finally caved in and peeked at them on YouTube. This happened a week ago yesterday. That night was one of the worst in my life. I was up all night - literally. I couldn't sleep. Random crying jags. Haunting the ME3 forum threads. I met my parents for lunch on Sunday and tried to put up a brave face but broke down. Didn't give them the specifics; only hinted that I bought a video game and the ending was just so depressing. Naturally my parents told me I should get rid of it (isn't that sweet? It's just so...so...parental!)


The feeling stayed with me for three days. Then I found other things to occupy my mind and my time, but not before trying to figure out why the ending had affected me so (I came to the conclusion that I had projected my desire to find a Kaidan in real life onto the game, which made the final scenes a lot more personal). And then I made the conscious decison to complete my playthrough - there was no was a game was going to break me!!!


It has been one week since that evening. Today I started another runthrough to get the Battle-Scarred achievement and to hit level 60, just in case I need a 'good' save...and yes, I will romance Kaidan again (I'll save Cortez for another PT later) .


The only advice I can offer to others who are hurting is to know that eventually it will start to hurt less. But until that time comes, reach out. Talk to people.  Offer support. And keep telling yourself that the game's issues WILL be fixed. They have to be. Too many players are angry for it not to be.

Hope this helps! 

[Chernaya]

leborum wrote...

EionaCousland wrote...

Well, that's a shame. :/ Doesn't mean they don't have anything else up their sleeves though, it could just mean it's not called "The Truth."

The way all of the goodbyes were so emotional, and then the end... argh. Kaidan's goodbye was so sad. If they got one thing in the game right, it was evoking people's emotions.

I don't mind a little bit of tear jerking.  The conversation with Anderson on the Citadel really got me, and that was the version that was cut down apparently, but I can't stress how cheated I felt after the end.  I was crying for the wrong reason. 

Even if "the truth" is a lie (much like the cake), I still have faith that BW will release some DLC that will answer fans' concerns.  I am an eternal optimist, which usually comes back to bite me in the ass.  I just don't understand why they would choose to end it on that note.  I have no problems with missing sunshine and rainbows, but in DA:O, for example, I got to choose what was important to me.  Did my Warden probably screw all of Thedas?  Sure she did, but she got to make that decision because being with Alistair was more important to her than being a big guddamned hero.  In all the other ME games, my choices had a huge impact on the outcome.  I was a **** to Miranda?  Well, maybe she didn't make it.  Did I save Kaidan on Virmire? Of course, as a result I only have one save with Ash and she was my sistah.  What BioWare does better than any other developer (besides creating pixellated bundles of man hottness) is giving players' choices weight.  I got so mad at Anders that I gave him the martyrdom he wanted?  Done.  But I also had the choice to flee the city with him. That's why I just don't get this colored explosion nonsense.  And the teaser with Shep alive in the rubble....  Well there's got to be something bigger going on there.  Plus, BioWare can't ignore the fan base.  $55K raised for a charity?  If voting with your wallet means anything, I think the BSN and other Retake Mass Effect Supporters have made a statement that can't be ignored. 

I was bent out of shape for a couple of days about the ending, if this had happened a little earlier in the year, when I was struggling with some personal issues, it might have been longer and I'd have to check myself into a center.  So my heart go out to everyone who's struggling with it.  I've decided to remember that 98% of the game was absolutely amazing.  And I'm just playing up until the return to Earth.  After London, I'm done with the game until I get new about whether things are changing.  

TL;DR: I'm still holding the line, but I'm cautiously optimistic and focussing on all the win that was present in ME3.

Couldn't have said it better myself. The Anderson talk really got me as well. There were a few choice moments that I finally gave in a cried during my playthrough.

The choices are what make me go and play more. I've been Queen with Alistair, and run away with him. Both experiences were awesome. I've run away and become a hunted Revolutionary with Anders, and I've also had a character who felt misused and betrayed and, while letting him free, didn't stay with him. I've sacrificed both Ash and Kaidan, both being painful decisions. My favorite part of Bioware games is the fact I can go back and try different things, because heck, I have mixed feelings about most things that happen in their games.

And this end I felt... just like, I was in no control of anything. Such a brilliant game, that took all of my free will in the last moments. I wanted an ending where I died, and maybe another where I lived and could see Kaidan again. I wanted to see the fates of the characters I cared about. It sucks.

Modifié par EionaCousland, 18 mars 2012 - 10:09 .

[Kaidan Fan]

yoshibb wrote...

I know how you guys feel. The entertainment industry has been going in this direction that everything must be realistic and gritty. Therefore, happy endings are few and far between anymore. I don't need to be reminded how ****ty the world is out there when I'm trying to have fun. Shepard gave up, plain and simple. That's what made me angry. My Shepard doesn't give up. She is a symbol of triumph in a desperate, broken galaxy.

Had my Shepard been up there, she would've said "No. I collected all these people and races from all over. I united them and fixed their century old grievances. This is a force like you have never seen before and I will not be forced into one of your bull****, offensive, senseless choices just cause you say so. We will fight you til the last Reaper is dead or we will die trying." Then she would've called the Normandy and they would've rammed Harbinger straight up the ass.

leborum wrote...

I don't mind a little bit of tear jerking.  The conversation with
Anderson on the Citadel really got me, and that was the version that was
cut down apparently, but I can't stress how cheated I felt after the
end.  I was crying for the wrong reason.

Bekkael wrote...

I've been boucing back and forth between depression, anger, and disbelief since I finished the game on the 8th.

I had to quote all you guys for saying what I think but can't seem to type out as well as you guys do.

Modifié par Kaidan Fan, 18 mars 2012 - 10:06 .

[yoshibb]

The source behind ME3 endings?

The lyrics and the picture to this song...

Upload date: July 6th, 2011