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CptData wrote...

sanmar wrote...

Darazelly wrote...

moonmythology wrote...

I can't find Kaidan after the Prority; Thessia mission on the ship. Does anyone know where he is on the ship after that mission? I can find everyone (ie. Tali by the crew members' list, Liara and Garrus in their own allocated spaces respectively) but not Kaidan


I do believe he was down in engineering for me after that mission. Checked your map?


Yes, he is. Kaidan talks with Adams about Liara.


You're lucky ... just talked in the Ash thread with shot_u about reduced Ash romance. You Kaidan fans got additional romance dialogues plus Kaidan is interacting at least once with another crewmember ... and still the VS got the shortest end of the stick of all "permanent squadmates". Almost including Tali.

Really wonder why BW decided to sideline the VS. Besides the initial influence on the story, the VS is sidelined for half of the story and once s/he returns, his/her significance is ... "to be here on the ship". Besides that ... disappointing. Guess I'm not alone here :?


Personally I'm just glad we got any part of the stick at all, and didn't end up in the same situation as the notTaliorGarrus-ME2 LI fans.
But I was rather sad that the VS Spectre promotion basically boiled down to Udina trying to play the political game against Shepard, and then is completely forgotten about.

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Raphael Sbarge is finally in 'Once Upon A Time' again. Latest episode, S01E16 he's on as both forms, Jiminy Cricket and Dr Hopper.

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I wrote this when all these thoughts were forming in my head while commuting to work. I change a little bit of actual dialogue to fit the story. Let me know if I should continue. My english ain't that good, so go easy on me, grammar police. :P 



I frowned as I looked upon the datapads laid out in front of me. A headache is slowly creeping onto me.

Just how much data do they need me to run through for the System Alliance Council to be convinced that the Reapers are really coming? And how long are they going to ground me? Every second that I stay here locked in this room could have been used to gather forces to prepare for the impending reaper attack.

Innately, I understand that keeping me under strict surveillance is for the sake of protecting me from possible Batarian assassins,not to mention the suspicion that I’m still working for Cerberus. I sigh as I toss away the datapad onto the floor and lie down onto the bed. I close my eyes to try to ward off this headache.

These headaches seems to get more frequent, the high pitch noise that no one seems to be aware of
kept buzzing in my ear. What’s wrong with me?


As if to confirm my thoughts, a high pitch beep from the datapad forced me to open my eyes.

Maybe Miranda managed to sneak an email through and trying to bust me out?’ I smiled. ‘how can that even be possible?’

I fumble for the datapad and tab for the inbox.

‘Hey Commander. Thought I might come down to see you today – if they let me. Here’s hoping.
–Kaidan’


I immediately got up from bed and I reread it many times to ensure that I’m not hallucinating. Kaidan…


I haven’t get to see him at all ever since I got incarcerated when I landed on Earth. They took away Normandy and everyone else from me and locked me up here. The top brass even refused to let anyone whom I know to visit me; not even Anderson, for fear that I passed along any type of information. As I reminisce the old times, the difficult decision on Vimire, the night before Ilos, even the painful encounter at Horizon, I walk towards the floor length window and let my eyes absent-mindedly wander upon a young boy playing in a backyard.

Kaidan… I wonder if he could be as carefree as the boy if he wasn’t born a biotic? Hell, if I’m just a normal civilian and not out-to-save-the-galaxy Commander Shephard? I really miss him. 
My train of thought immediately got interrupted by the beep from the door and James walked in. He mentioned about the council finally wanting to see me and led me to Anderson. I feel so relieved. Not to say James isn’t a good man and all, it’s just good to finally see a familiar face.

“Major Alenko.” I overheard Anderson calling when I was shaking hands and saying goodbye to James. When I turn around, I see the guy that I cared the most in this galaxy. As I walked towards them, I took in every little bit of detail of his face. I frowned a little as I notice how his hair has turned a little white at the side. Has stress taken a toll on him?

“Major?” I enquired.

“You hadn’t heard?” Anderson replied.

Kaidan looked at me with his beautiful brown eyes, “…Sorry,Shephard. It’s being… well.”

Feeling a little hurt that Kaidan didn’t tell me himself, even over the datapad, I managed to shake off this dull ache in my heart. “It’s okay, just glad... to bump into you, Kaidan.” I managed to say.

The secretary then walked over and informed me that the council is ready to see me. Both me and Major Alenko nod towards each other to acknowledge each other’s presence and I walked away. This matter can wait.

I steeled myself as I walked into the council and tell them the same thing time and time again. It irks me that it takes a true reaper attack to hit Earth for them to finally listening to me. Does stopping Sovereign and the collectors all being in vain?

Before I could finish, a flash of red light beamed towards our direction and I ducked as fast as I could. The impact was huge and I was stunned momentarily. As Anderson pick me up and hand me a gun, my immediate thought went out to Kaidan and the Normandy crew. Luckily, Anderson was with me so he could radio in to check their status. When I heard Kaidan’s voice that he’s safe and on his way to the Normandy, I feel relief washed over me. Now it just remains for me to concentrate and survive.

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When I have ran out of ammo and getting overwhelmingly exhausted from the usage of biotics, hearing Joker’s voice and the familiar engine sound of the Normandy was a godsend. The Normandy fired upon the remaining reapers and Kaidan use this chance to reached out his hand,grabbed it and hopped on. I turned around and try to clear the way for Anderson, but he was adamant not to come on-board.
It pains me to have to leave him behind. As I stared out into the open before the cargo door closed, I chanced upon the little boy I saw earlier getting on-board to the shuttle. When the reaper beam shot it down mercilessly, all I could do was watch…helplessly. 
This only helps me to steel my resolve. I must bring back forces to stop this from happening to…everyone.

When I walked into the cargo hold, James was immediately berating me for leaving Anderson behind. It took all my strength to restrain myself from hitting him. How could I have not want to stay behind and fight alongside Anderson? I noticed Kaidan looking at me apprehensively, as if he agreed with what James said. The familiar pang of pain that I felt on Horizon.

He still doesn’t believe me?


Admiral Hackett’s call came before I could say anymore. Honestly does it matter if I justify myself to anyone anymore? I have never felt more alone in the world. I laughed at myself innately. If I don't believe in myself now, who will?

I willed myself to listen to Hackett and prepare for the mission ahead. I grabbed my N7 armor and proceed to zip myself up. Mars for the Prothean device. No matter. Whatever it needs to be done to give Earth a fighting chance. With or without their trust.

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Darazelly wrote...

Personally I'm just glad we got any part of the stick at all, and didn't end up in the same situation as the notTaliorGarrus-ME2 LI fans.
But I was rather sad that the VS Spectre promotion basically boiled down to Udina trying to play the political game against Shepard, and then is completely forgotten about.


Trufax. Still - length of stick of interaction with certain characters in ME3 is this (just ME1/ME2):

10/10
Liara, Garrus

9/10
-/-

8/10
-/-

7/10
Kaidan

6/10
Mordin, Wrex/Wreav, Ashley

5/10
Tali, Legion

4/10
Miranda, Thane, Grunt

3/10
Jacob, Jack

2/10
Samara, Kasumi

1/10
Zaeed, Morinth (if alive - she's a Banshee)

Not too bad, but not as good as it should have been.

Modifié par CptData, 19 mars 2012 - 12:18 .


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It feels like forever since i've been here lol..stupid computer has been in the shop all weekend, picking it up after work today... So what'd i miss? I'm going to try and catch up but 30+ pages looks daunting heh.

And today I turned 32....i seriously hope the rest of the day turns out better than the morning so far.

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Darazelly wrote...

CptData wrote...

sanmar wrote...

Darazelly wrote...

moonmythology wrote...

I can't find Kaidan after the Prority; Thessia mission on the ship. Does anyone know where he is on the ship after that mission? I can find everyone (ie. Tali by the crew members' list, Liara and Garrus in their own allocated spaces respectively) but not Kaidan


I do believe he was down in engineering for me after that mission. Checked your map?


Yes, he is. Kaidan talks with Adams about Liara.


You're lucky ... just talked in the Ash thread with shot_u about reduced Ash romance. You Kaidan fans got additional romance dialogues plus Kaidan is interacting at least once with another crewmember ... and still the VS got the shortest end of the stick of all "permanent squadmates". Almost including Tali.

Really wonder why BW decided to sideline the VS. Besides the initial influence on the story, the VS is sidelined for half of the story and once s/he returns, his/her significance is ... "to be here on the ship". Besides that ... disappointing. Guess I'm not alone here :?


Personally I'm just glad we got any part of the stick at all, and didn't end up in the same situation as the notTaliorGarrus-ME2 LI fans.
But I was rather sad that the VS Spectre promotion basically boiled down to Udina trying to play the political game against Shepard, and then is completely forgotten about.


It would have been better to have more romance dialogues with after the Citadel date. Sure, there is a bit of flirting but not a proper romance conversation until his visit in Shepard's room. It may be because the writers have simplified the complications of the relationship for the convenience of the game (for minimal adjustments for those faithful Shepards, cheating Shepards and those who just romanced him).

Pre-Citadel attack: trust issue which may or may not be resolved.
Kaidan joining or not joining
If Kaidan joins, will he be romanced or not. And it is simply confirmed in a conversation. There seems to be little deepening of it.
Romance scene
Final goodbye

Anything beyond this is left to the player's imagination. Personally, I think there could have been more depth to the romance. But then again, at least the Kaidan romance has better treatment compared to other romances (ie. Miranda)

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^ true, moonmythology. Kaidan got a tad better treatment. Ashley isn't flirty at all between the scenes, she's strictly professional, heavily damaging the illusion of a "live" relationship.

I already wrote sanmar a PM that basically shows Ashley's romance:

- Meeting on Earth & "welcome back"
- Mars Mission & Injury
- Citadel I - Shepard talks to comatose Ash
- Citadel II - Ash is awake & Shepard gives her his present
- Citadel III - Ash is walking around and tells about Udina's job
- Citadel IV - Udina Coup & Shepard's Decision
- Citadel V - Memorial scene
- Normandy I - Ashley is drunk
- Citadel VI - Date with Ash
- Normandy II - romantic climax scene (aka sex scene)
- Final Battle - "Farewell" Scene

Once you have her back, she's strictly formal between her scenes. I didn't play with Kaidan yet, but if that's true and he got at least flirty banter, I'm really sad now :crying:
At least you guys (uhh girls ;)) got some more fluff, huh?


Nevermind, back to lurking :ph34r:

Modifié par CptData, 19 mars 2012 - 02:17 .


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MissLiya wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

 Alright, my take on the requested post-Thessia romance scene.  Hope it hits the spot for you guys.  :)

oh what a lovely fanfic, thank you :wub:


Thanks!  :wizard:

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 SPOILERS :police:

this pic made me lol so hard
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Sandtigress wrote...

MissLiya wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

 Alright, my take on the requested post-Thessia romance scene.  Hope it hits the spot for you guys.  :)

oh what a lovely fanfic, thank you :wub:


Thanks!  :wizard:

just I really were in need of something like this. It`s kinda weird that we do not have a conversation with Kaidan and Shep  after  Thessia failure :? I thought he will try to cheer her up after what happened. 
Like give her a hug ... or something <3
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I think the problem with the writing is that it all leads up to the "climax" which is the sex scene. but between the establishment of the romance and the "climax," there is not much tension so the climax, if one thinks of it plot-wise, there does not seem to be a lot of tension there. The climax looks more like a "reward" than anything because the player took the effort to follow the romance.

Everything just goes down after the climax/sex scene. I think this is the same for most ME romances. I think it all boils down to the party member as support roles in Shepard's story as compared to the Alistair romance plot in DAO. If only there was another plot point where the VS could have figured as a center after the sex scene like in the Alistair romance--the landsmeet where there could be a complication--can the roamnce end or not if Alistair becomes king.

But then again, I am not sure if this is applicable to ME3's plot. While DAO and ME3 seem to be parallels on the surface--recruiting armies for the war--they are still different because ME3's 3-acts is very DAII.

Okay, now I am babbling.

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Aoibheann wrote...

It feels like forever since i've been here lol..stupid computer has been in the shop all weekend, picking it up after work today... So what'd i miss? I'm going to try and catch up but 30+ pages looks daunting heh.

And today I turned 32....i seriously hope the rest of the day turns out better than the morning so far.


Happy Bday:wizard: Hope you have a great day!

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MissLiya wrote...

 SPOILERS :police:

this pic made me lol so hard
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:o Win!

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Umm ok I'm guessing this got to be a pretty wth question here in this board. But I'm asking on how to PREVENT starting a romance with him. I'm very paranoid when it comes to Ninjamance *looking at you Liara*.

Now before you guys put me on a pyre :P... I'm clarifying that I just want Kaidan romance strictly for my canonShep (who stayed loyal throughout ME, ME2 and ME3 for him)... Just feels more special that way... and I don't want their awesome romance experience to be muzzled by another Shep :)

I'm running my Sheploo Vanguard now to test the Renegade variables and I want to keep his Miranda romance... and also because I can only see him being straight as an arrow.

I heard that asking about his biotics in the hospital conversation nets a hidden flirt (the one where *at least* in my canon femShep playthrough, will talk about "you get better with age"... don't know if the dialogue is different if you don't import his romance from ME1)... So I have to avoid this dialogue...? I'm finishing up Mars soon and chose a few Renegade dialogue with him when they talked about Shep's ressurection... Shep goes "I am who I am, now you can leave or you can stay" and Kaidan sounded pretty butt-hurt "I'm with you... for now". I just don't want to lose him after Udina's Coup. Not sure if going too Renegade with him on Mars will cause him to reject rejoining the Normandy... and I really want to have Kaidan around. Also am I not suppose to buy the Whiskey for him then? *I suddenly felt bad for being terrible to him*, and my Vanguard is supposed to be good friends with Kaidan ><

So help? Any inputs will be appreciated!

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moonmythology wrote...

I think the problem with the writing is that it all leads up to the "climax" which is the sex scene. but between the establishment of the romance and the "climax," there is not much tension so the climax, if one thinks of it plot-wise, there does not seem to be a lot of tension there. The climax looks more like a "reward" than anything because the player took the effort to follow the romance.

Exactly. BW still uses the same old way how to create a romance: some nice talk and right before the end of the battle, Shepard and the LI "do the deed".

It's been the way how BW did it in ME1, same for ME2 and it's there in ME3 again, although Miranda & Jack get a different treatment. Any other "active" LI works the same: build up for the entire length of the game, climax scene and then ... flatlined.

I dunno. It's okay in one way (keeping the player interested investing time to get a romance), but it's also kinda disappointing. I'd like to see how Shepard and the LI work together when NOT trying to build up a romantic relationship OR having sex. Besides that, every real romance always has a buildup after first sex together ...

In my case, I really have hoped for two significant romance scenes: one for rewarding faithful players (applying to Liara, Kaidan and Ashley romances) and the climax scene. For me, it could have been executed this way:

Fresh romance: build up till climax sex scene.
Imported non-loyal romance: confrontation scene, build up till climax sex scene.
Imported loyal romance: build up till first romantic scene (romantic / sexy), continuation of working relationship till climax sex scene / proposal scene (depending on player's choice).

Everything just goes down after the climax/sex scene. I think this is the same for most ME romances. I think it all boils down to the party member as support roles in Shepard's story as compared to the Alistair romance plot in DAO. If only there was another plot point where the VS could have figured as a center after the sex scene like in the Alistair romance--the landsmeet where there could be a complication--can the roamnce end or not if Alistair becomes king.

Never played DA:O.

However, I really wish we could have some interaction with Shepard and the LI after the climax scene. In ME2 you had the snuggling scene which was not that great, but at least some kind of (poorly executed) post-climax interaction. In ME3 you only have the "farewell scene" - which is really beautiful and heartbreaking but also the only moment post-climax.

But then again, I am not sure if this is applicable to ME3's plot. While DAO and ME3 seem to be parallels on the surface--recruiting armies for the war--they are still different because ME3's 3-acts is very DAII.

Okay, now I am babbling.

It can be done in case BW decides to accept the fandom's theory "everything following Harby's laserbeam is a hallucination & indoctrination dream" - the "post-final" mission could be LI centered.

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FemSheps, I have a question. Did anyone of you romanced Jacob in ME2? If yes, did you hear Kaidan saying something like "was that Jacob Taylor on Gellix" on the Normandy?

CptData wrote...

- Normandy I - Ashley is drunk
- Citadel V - Date with Ash
- Normandy II - romantic climax scene (aka sex scene)
- Final Battle - "Farewell" Scene

That's all Ash post-Coup? Because Kaidan also has a full-fledged conversation about Cerberus between the date and sex scene

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IsaacShep wrote...

FemSheps, I have a question. Did anyone of you romanced Jacob in ME2? If yes, did you hear Kaidan saying something like "was that Jacob Taylor on Gellix" on the Normandy?

CptData wrote...

- Normandy I - Ashley is drunk
- Citadel V - Date with Ash
- Normandy II - romantic climax scene (aka sex scene)
- Final Battle - "Farewell" Scene

That's all Ash post-Coup? Because Kaidan also has a full-fledged conversation about Cerberus between the date and sex scene


Ash has a dialogue regarding her distrust & Cerberus on Mars, but besides that, there's nothing.
As I said before, Ashley's romance suffers several cuts while Kaidan's romance seems to be more intact. If I'm right, his romance also saw some cuts, but less visible. Also the interaction between the romance scenes seems to come with a flirty undertone with Kaidan (at least that's what I've got so far) while Ashley is strictly professional.

To be honest ... my image of both characters is pretty much the opposite: Kaidan is the more formal one and Ashley is more flirty in ME1. Dunno why BW decided to change it. I doubt we're going to see a patch or DLC upgrading the VS romance at all, although it's one of my greatest wishes - it basically is the second important point, right after altering / extending the endings.

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Hey, everyone! Man, it's been weeks since I last visited the forum. I had to add a few numbers to my username as the e-mail I was using for "Soccerchic6" was apparently not my EA/Origin registered e-mail, and it wouldn't let me post in this forum. :/

There's just no way I'm going to be catching up on the 200+ pages I've missed so does anyone mind catching me up?

As for me, I haven't had a chance to play much (just got the Paramour achievement) so I'm barely catching up on the Kaidan romance as well. I have a few questions, and I apologize if this has been brought up already.

First off, when you see Kaidan interacting with the other crew members on the Normandy, is there more to their conversation than what you initially walk in on? I just saw him playing poker with Vega, and they had a cute convo about Kaidan losing and whatnot. I stuck around for a bit (mainly because I was pleasantly surprised that the Garrus/Vega interaction in the mess hall was quite long), but they didn't say anything else. :(

Also, can someone please detail the Kaidan romance for me? I've had the Cerberus conversation with him (about those ex-Cerberus agents being good people), and I just had dinner with him, earning the Paramour achievement. Is there another conversation with him before the romance scene?

Thanks in advance! :)

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CptData wrote...

Ash has one on Mars, but besides that, there's nothing.

Kaidan has the Mars convo too. So it seems he has one full-dialogue more than Ash. What about the Ash memorial scene? Which one is it?

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IsaacShep wrote...

CptData wrote...

Ash has one on Mars, but besides that, there's nothing.

Kaidan has the Mars convo too. So it seems he has one full-dialogue more than Ash. What about the Ash memorial scene? Which one is it?


Forgot that one, sorry - fixed my post.

Yes, Ash has her memorial scene, it's nicely done, quite short, but works so far.

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Soccerchic601 wrote...

First off, when you see Kaidan interacting with the other crew members on the Normandy, is there more to their conversation than what you initially walk in on? I just saw him playing poker with Vega, and they had a cute convo about Kaidan losing and whatnot. I stuck around for a bit (mainly because I was pleasantly surprised that the Garrus/Vega interaction in the mess hall was quite long), but they didn't say anything else. :(
 

 
Yes to this. Just walk out of the room for a few seconds, or talk to someone else, and come back in again. They will have a hilarious conversation about taking down a reaper. 

 

 
Also, can someone please detail the Kaidan romance for me? I've had the Cerberus conversation with him (about those ex-Cerberus agents being good people), and I just had dinner with him, earning the Paramour achievement. Is there another conversation with him before the romance scene?

Thanks in advance! :)

He should have one immediately after he join the Normandy. He should be leaning against the window and he talks about his family. :)

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CptData wrote...

sanmar wrote...

Darazelly wrote...

moonmythology wrote...

I can't find Kaidan after the Prority; Thessia mission on the ship. Does anyone know where he is on the ship after that mission? I can find everyone (ie. Tali by the crew members' list, Liara and Garrus in their own allocated spaces respectively) but not Kaidan


I do believe he was down in engineering for me after that mission. Checked your map?


Yes, he is. Kaidan talks with Adams about Liara.


You're lucky ... just talked in the Ash thread with shot_u about reduced Ash romance. You Kaidan fans got additional romance dialogues plus Kaidan is interacting at least once with another crewmember ... and still the VS got the shortest end of the stick of all "permanent squadmates". Almost including Tali.

Really wonder why BW decided to sideline the VS. Besides the initial influence on the story, the VS is sidelined for half of the story and once s/he returns, his/her significance is ... "to be here on the ship". Besides that ... disappointing. Guess I'm not alone here :?

You're not alone on this.  But for me though, with Kaidan's involvement in the story, I don't think he got too "sidelined."  He does offer his opinions on things and has some banter with other squaddies if you bring him everywhere, but if you do just leave him on the ship, I'm definitely aware of the differences between Ash and Kaidan and it just seemed like Ash got the short end of the stick.  It's like the writers didn't have time to really develop her or something.

I was watching vids of Ash on YouTube and it just seems like some scenes are much shorter, especially the Friendship paths.  One glaring example is the "last goodbye" on Earth.  Kaidan seemed to get more screentime in that scene than her, even when romanced. :[

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Ilexias wrote...

Soccerchic601 wrote...

First off, when you see Kaidan interacting with the other crew members on the Normandy, is there more to their conversation than what you initially walk in on? I just saw him playing poker with Vega, and they had a cute convo about Kaidan losing and whatnot. I stuck around for a bit (mainly because I was pleasantly surprised that the Garrus/Vega interaction in the mess hall was quite long), but they didn't say anything else. :(
 

 
Yes to this. Just walk out of the room for a few seconds, or talk to someone else, and come back in again. They will have a hilarious conversation about taking down a reaper. 

 

 
Also, can someone please detail the Kaidan romance for me? I've had the Cerberus conversation with him (about those ex-Cerberus agents being good people), and I just had dinner with him, earning the Paramour achievement. Is there another conversation with him before the romance scene?

Thanks in advance! :)

He should have one immediately after he join the Normandy. He should be leaning against the window and he talks about his family. :)


You can also click on him during the poker scene and he will have auto-dialouge. Apparently I'm missing convo I had no idea about. I didn't know about post Thessia convo. God this is irritating. This time around I didn't get the, "Is it wrong I'm grinning like a fool," and "Why didn't you wake me?" "Well next time wake me." Am I missing something here? Do you talk to him immediately?

Also with the Indoctrination/Hallucination theory, James says 2 x in auto-dialouge, "Do you hear that hum or is it just me?" Once in the middle of the game and right before you go to earth. I found that interesting.

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goodventure wrote...

You're not alone on this.  But for me though, with Kaidan's involvement in the story, I don't think he got too "sidelined."  He does offer his opinions on things and has some banter with other squaddies if you bring him everywhere, but if you do just leave him on the ship, I'm definitely aware of the differences between Ash and Kaidan and it just seemed like Ash got the short end of the stick.  It's like the writers didn't have time to really develop her or something.

I was watching vids of Ash on YouTube and it just seems like some scenes are much shorter, especially the Friendship paths.  One glaring example is the "last goodbye" on Earth.  Kaidan seemed to get more screentime in that scene than her, even when romanced. :[


I don't mind if a particular Ashley-scene is shorter than the same scene with Kaidan. There's no contest after all. What I do mind: Ash got sidelined between any romance/friendship scenes, doesn't interact at all with the crew, remains lonely in her cabin and has very few generic lines - which also sound strictly formal instead friendly.

Said it before: the Ashley in her romance scenes feels like the Ash from ME1, while the Ash with Zaeed-dialogues feels more or less like an entirely different person.

Not sure if that's the same with Kaidan. It just seems as if Kaidan got more development - which is great, at least one VS got some proper development - while the writers for Ashley had no real idea what to do with her. Which is -really- odd, it's really easy to write proper dialogue for her. I did it often enough. :lol:


Wha'ever - this is not Ashley's thread, so .. 'nuff about her. For now ;)

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Silverpearl1977 wrote...

Ilexias wrote...

Soccerchic601 wrote...

First off, when you see Kaidan interacting with the other crew members on the Normandy, is there more to their conversation than what you initially walk in on? I just saw him playing poker with Vega, and they had a cute convo about Kaidan losing and whatnot. I stuck around for a bit (mainly because I was pleasantly surprised that the Garrus/Vega interaction in the mess hall was quite long), but they didn't say anything else. :(
 

 
Yes to this. Just walk out of the room for a few seconds, or talk to someone else, and come back in again. They will have a hilarious conversation about taking down a reaper. 

 

 
Also, can someone please detail the Kaidan romance for me? I've had the Cerberus conversation with him (about those ex-Cerberus agents being good people), and I just had dinner with him, earning the Paramour achievement. Is there another conversation with him before the romance scene?

Thanks in advance! :)

He should have one immediately after he join the Normandy. He should be leaning against the window and he talks about his family. :)


You can also click on him during the poker scene and he will have auto-dialouge. Apparently I'm missing convo I had no idea about. I didn't know about post Thessia convo. God this is irritating. This time around I didn't get the, "Is it wrong I'm grinning like a fool," and "Why didn't you wake me?" "Well next time wake me." Am I missing something here? Do you talk to him immediately?

Also with the Indoctrination/Hallucination theory, James says 2 x in auto-dialouge, "Do you hear that hum or is it just me?" Once in the middle of the game and right before you go to earth. I found that interesting.


Wait, Kaidan has something post-Thessia? My first run, which I'm doing over now, I got Garrus being all awesome BFF and sending Shep's arse to get some rest. But I was stunned I had nothing from this guy that's you know, IN LOVE WITH HER!!! I seriously was ready to abuse houseplants.:mellow:

Oh damn, top! Kaidan counting Vetta's freckles to make sure Cerberus put them all back.
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