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[LadyofRivendell]

frylock23 wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

I have never been able to connect with Ashley. I think some of it has to do with my own religious beliefs, and to me she comes off a bit on the preachy side, when I happen to be a pagan. Actually I can say that is pretty much the entire reason I never could connect with Ashley. I guess it isn't fair, but because of the way I have been treated my adult life because I am pagan just carried over.

That said, even if I could do it, I can't not save Kaidan if for no other reason than soldiers are a dime a dozen and solid officers and biotics are rare and far between.

That's sort of funny.

Ashley is preachy the same way that Kaidan is whiny about his migraines meaning that they both mention the subjects in question but neither are really in your face about it. So, yeah, I'd say your personal experiences definitely rub you the wrong way.

That's OK though, I had a hard time with Cortez's marriage thing for similar reasons. The topic is a sensitive, highly-charged subject, and I had to remind myself that I was only tempted to be a d-bag about it because Cortez was a computer character and not a real person.

I love how real these characters are, that we actually feel like treating them like humans as opposed to video game characters. For me, at least.

I actually liked that Ashley mentioned her religious views, but I share her religion so that's probably a factor. And I agree with that you said in that some of Cortez made me a bit uncomfortable. I'm not a homophovbe, neither am I for or against their movement, but it's something I'm uncomfortable around and would rather not have to encounter if I can help it. I would never think of being mean to Cortez, I just generally avoided him. Same thing with Samantha and Diana.

I gotta say, Bioware's got guts. No one else out there is brave enough to throw around religion, homosexuality, sex scenes, philosophy, morality, etc, yet they can pack it into several games. Even if I don't agree on everything, I applaud them for going outside the box and beyond. 
Now, imagine if they were movie makers instead...

[Anacruisis]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

I love how real these characters are, that we actually feel like treating them like humans as opposed to video game characters. For me, at least.

I actually liked that Ashley mentioned her religious views, but I share her religion so that's probably a factor. And I agree with that you said in that some of Cortez made me a bit uncomfortable. I'm not a homophovbe, neither am I for or against their movement, but it's something I'm uncomfortable around and would rather not have to encounter if I can help it. I would never think of being mean to Cortez, I just generally avoided him. Same thing with Samantha and Diana.

I gotta say, Bioware's got guts. No one else out there is brave enough to throw around religion, homosexuality, sex scenes, philosophy, morality, etc, yet they can pack it into several games. Even if I don't agree on everything, I applaud them for going outside the box and beyond. 
Now, imagine if they were movie makers instead...

Sometimes I feel that I'm actually interact with a person instead of a bunch of pixels
about Cortez mention about his husband
It was awkward for me at first but I let it slide
because He's pretty down about it

[frylock23]

rudenotginger wrote...

slyborg wrote...

goodventure wrote...

I'm not surprised the majority of people saved Ashley. But the 24% who saved Kaidan isn't as small a number as I thought it was!

Does anyone have the link to that cut dialogue from ME1 where Shepard saved BOTH Kaidan and Ashley on Virmire? Kaidan and Ashley were commenting on how Shepard deserved some kind of reward for what she pulled off on Virmire. It was on tumblr. I don't think I bookmarked it. :[

I can never find original sources on Tumblr (or figure out where people get the gifs so fast) but this is my reblog of it.

WHY???!! Kaidan is my Main!Shep's true love, but Ash was her sister-in-arms, her best friend... I hate Virmire so much. Why Bioware, WHY??

Yes, I hate Virmire a lot.

I would have left someone else behind. I always say Liara, but I suppose Tali would have worked just as well.

[frylock23]

And on another note.

I played MP off and on all afternoon around my laundry. And I have come to the conclusion that the Banshees have a personal vendetta against me. It seemed like every time I turned around no matter what I played or what I did to avoid them, they were right behind me waiting to execute their on shot impale/death manuever. I feel like the worst MP player in the history of MP ever.

Maybe I ought to go to my SP game and let Kaidan console me.

[yoshibb]

I always thought the fact that Liara escaped any sort of Virmire moment or death option was kind of unfair. That's why I was sad they took out the Kai Leng thing on Thessia. I probably wouldn't let Liara die often but I would like to have that choice.

Modifié par yoshibb, 20 mars 2012 - 12:14 .

[Anacruisis]

frylock23 wrote...

And on another note.

I played MP off and on all afternoon around my laundry. And I have come to the conclusion that the Banshees have a personal vendetta against me. It seemed like every time I turned around no matter what I played or what I did to avoid them, they were right behind me waiting to execute their on shot impale/death manuever. I feel like the worst MP player in the history of MP ever.

Maybe I ought to go to my SP game and let Kaidan console me.

Everytime I hear a shriek
I always got freakout
Damn I hate Banshees *Shudders*

yoshibb wrote...

I always thought the fact that Liara
escaped any sort of Virmire moment or death option was kind of unfair.
That's why I was sad they took out the Kai Leng thing on Thessia. I
probably wouldn't let Liara die often but I would like to have that
choice.

No offense to LIara's fan
But I always pissed that Liara always get more attention
after the Thessia mission
almost everybody wants me to talk to Liara
Dude, I'm the one who got ass-kicked by that cereal killer
and almost fell to the bottom of the temple
My homeworld already got destroyed by Reapers first
And I have to console Liara just because her homeworld is taken by the reapers few hours ago?
Man, I'm pissed <_<

Modifié par Anacruisis, 20 mars 2012 - 12:20 .

[ME_Girl]

First off, I want to say that I’m grateful for every tender moment I had with my LI (Kaidan) in ME3. I have 2 comments/wishes though. Sorry if someone already brought it up – too many comments to read them all.

- First, I love the sexy black dress my FemShep has in her armor closet - sounds funny . Somewhere in early ME3 someone mentions a party for Kaidan. Why hasn’t that happened? I would’ve loved to wear my dress, and be there with my sexy LI as a date. And to maybe share some more “special moments” after the party, while still in the happy mood.

- Second, after they said their “I love you”-s, my FemShep and her LI fought many battles together. I wish there were special moments between them during these missions too. Maybe a whisper, touch or a gaze before they jump into a field filled with Cerberus soldiers. It would make me care while fighting, rather than just coldly slamming warps left and right.

[LadyofRivendell]

If you're referring to Kaidan's Spectre celebration, that happened sometime after your last visit to the hospital but before Priority: Citadel 2. You can talk to Udina, and during the conversation it's mentioned that Shepard saw the vids of the celebration but clearly wasn't there in person.

[rudenotginger]

CptData wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

I never knew about this  I disliked Ashley but never wanted her to die, and it's sad that Bioware were at one point intending that both of them could be saved. The game could have been completely different if they both survived. Their banter was the best! 

Their banter was so awesome, Kaidan and Ashley could have ended as couple without Virmire & Shepard romancing one of them.

Just my image of both. They were a great couple.

Yes, they were! A relationship between them could have been epic in games where Shepard doesn't romance either of them.

[yoshibb]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

If you're referring to Kaidan's Spectre celebration, that happened sometime after your last visit to the hospital but before Priority: Citadel 2. You can talk to Udina, and during the conversation it's mentioned that Shepard saw the vids of the celebration but clearly wasn't there in person.

I personally hated how they handled the whole spectre thing. It was just used as a political ploy of Udina and then it was dropped and never mentioned again. I don't know what the point of it was even. Kaidan can protect the council without being a Spectre. Just... whatever, sometimes I think the horrible ending is blocking me from seeing all the other things wrong with the game. 

It just seems rushed, but they had two years development time. I guess that's not enough anymore. God, I hate waiting but I also want the best product possible. I would still like to see my episode idea put into practice. A couple hours every couple of months maybe? I HATE waiting.

Modifié par yoshibb, 20 mars 2012 - 12:43 .

[shepskisaac]

Anacruisis wrote...

No offense to LIara's fan
But I always pissed that Liara always get more attention after the Thessia mission almost everybody wants me to talk to Liara
Dude, I'm the one who got ass-kicked by that cereal killer and almost fell to the bottom of the temple
My homeworld already got destroyed by Reapers first
And I have to console Liara just because her homeworld is taken by the reapers few hours ago?
Man, I'm pissed <_<

Yeah but you know, what can you do when it's about one of Bioware's darlings (along with Garrus). But oh well, I'm just happy that Kaidan was featured heavily in ME3

Modifié par IsaacShep, 20 mars 2012 - 12:44 .

[ShallowlLife9871]

 
I'm a big fan of npc romance. it just seams more real when NPC conect with each other. I kinda wish there was a bit more of a build up with the Garris Tali thing....because they are just  ..together. a bit more firlting in me3 for them. I would like Garrius and Tali to say goodbye to each other or for one of them to remark about it when Shep says goodbye.

anyway, I was once again going though my screen Caps and found 2 pictures that  captured the endding perfectly.

Shep meeting with the starchild:


and Kaidan's reaction to the crash landing.

Modifié par ShallowlLife9871, 20 mars 2012 - 01:00 .

[frylock23]

yoshibb wrote...

I always thought the fact that Liara
escaped any sort of Virmire moment or death option was kind of unfair.
That's why I was sad they took out the Kai Leng thing on Thessia. I
probably wouldn't let Liara die often but I would like to have that
choice.

I don't think they'd ever let Liara die on Thessia.

I'll bet the reason they took out the idea of Kai Leng killing one of your squadmates on Thessia was because you have to have Liara with you, and they gave her plot armor. But, they realized that it was entirely possible for players to take EDI with them, and EDI also had to have plot armor because you needed her for the Cerberus base later on. If they left it like that, Kai Leng couldn't kill a squad mate because it was possible for him to be presented with an impossible option - two squaddies with plot armor.

[Anacruisis]

frylock23 wrote...

I don't think they'd ever let Liara die on Thessia.

I'll bet the reason they took out the idea of Kai Leng killing one of your squadmates on Thessia was because you have to have Liara with you, and they gave her plot armor. But, they realized that it was entirely possible for players to take EDI with them, and EDI also had to have plot armor because you needed her for the Cerberus base later on. If they left it like that, Kai Leng couldn't kill a squad mate because it was possible for him to be presented with an impossible option - two squaddies with plot armor.

Yep PLOT ARMOR all the way <_<

[shepskisaac]

frylock23 wrote...
That's OK though, I had a hard time with Cortez's marriage thing for similar reasons. The topic is a sensitive, highly-charged subject, and I had to remind myself that I was only tempted to be a d-bag about it because Cortez was a computer character and not a real person.

LadyofRivendell wrote...
And I agree with that you said in that some of Cortez made me a bit uncomfortable. I'm not a homophovbe, neither am I for or against their movement, but it's something I'm uncomfortable around and would rather not have to encounter if I can help it. I would never think of being mean to Cortez, I just generally avoided him. Same thing with Samantha and Diana.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 20 mars 2012 - 01:08 .

[Anacruisis]

IsaacShep wrote...

Kaidan disaprove -10000

[leighzard]

Hey guys, quick question, is there a way to be nice to James without the constant flirting? Like that first conversation on the Normandy when he asks what you're there for, is there an option that's not "It's my ship and I can do what I want" or "Hey, I'm enjoying the show." My Shepard isn't a jerk and wants to be friends with JVegas because he's the man (seriously, he's like having a Krogan back on the team), but she's been pining for Kaidan for months and months and wouldn't make a pass at him, even as a joke. She wouldn't straight up shut him down if he started up with her, but she definitely wouldn't reciprocate. What happened to the neutral "Hey, just wanted to chat" option. Urgh

Also, my husband's out of town right now which means he can't kick me off the xbox. Hit me up for MP if you see me online. I'll totally save and stop whatever I'm doing to play with Kaidanites. Although, I really need my Turian sentinel back. Right now I've got a human Vanguard and a Drell Adept, and I'm not great with either of them.

Re: Liara and Thessia, I thought the original plan was to set up a Virmire like situation where you have to choose to save her or the VS when Kai Leng shows up. I'm kinda glad that didn't happen, but I would've killed Liara in a heartbeat. I thought she pestered Javik a little too much. Poor Prothy. Also I thought it was silly that I had to console her after Thessia fell. Nobody came to give me hugs after I left Earth. And Garrus seemed to handle the Palaven situation pretty well.

Edit: Cortez was the bomb.  It's 2187, and if you can hook up with a Turian, you should be able to marry who you want.  I applaud BioWare for including it in the game and wish other media would provide the same treatment </political message>

Modifié par leborum, 20 mars 2012 - 01:09 .

[frylock23]

MassGirl wrote...

First off, I want to say that I’m grateful for every tender moment I had with my LI (Kaidan) in ME3. I have 2 comments/wishes though. Sorry if someone already brought it up – too many comments to read them all.

- First, I love the sexy black dress my FemShep has in her armor closet - sounds funny . Somewhere in early ME3 someone mentions a party for Kaidan. Why hasn’t that happened? I would’ve loved to wear my dress, and be there with my sexy LI as a date. And to maybe share some more “special moments” after the party, while still in the happy mood.

- Second, after they said their “I love you”-s, my FemShep and her LI fought many battles together. I wish there were special moments between them during these missions too. Maybe a whisper, touch or a gaze before they jump into a field filled with Cerberus soldiers. It would make me care while fighting, rather than just coldly slamming warps left and right.

I t was clear to me from the get go that Udina was working pretty hard to separate Kaidan from Shep and keep Shep from Kaidan because he needed someone symathetic to him with SPECTRE status that he could manipulate and I wouldn't put it past TIM to think that using someone close to Shepard would be a mighty fine way to get under her skin.

As you play through the sequences after Kaidan wakes up post-Mars, note how he gets more and more distant with you. Notice also that if you keep talking to Udina, he treats you the same. It gets to the point where you can't even open up the same dialogue tree with him, he just brushes you off.

So, I'm not surprised that you aren't at the party. It's by design IMO. They want you separated and isolated because they don't want Kaidan to trust you.

[LadyofRivendell]

IsaacShep wrote...

Anacruisis wrote...

No offense to LIara's fan
But I always pissed that Liara always get more attention after the Thessia mission almost everybody wants me to talk to Liara
Dude, I'm the one who got ass-kicked by that cereal killer and almost fell to the bottom of the temple
My homeworld already got destroyed by Reapers first
And I have to console Liara just because her homeworld is taken by the reapers few hours ago?
Man, I'm pissed <_<

Yeah but you know, what can you do when it's about one of Bioware's darlings (along with Garrus). But oh well, I'm just happy that Kaidan was featured heavily in ME3

Liara does seem a bit... unintentionally naively selfish in parts of the game. She freaks out about seeing Banshees and is extremely depressed after Thessia...
Hey, Liara, ever heard of a husk? Yeah, those were humans. Remember that little planet called Earth? That was my homeworld. If I can get over it without coddling, so can you.
Though I wouldn't protest to some minor coddling from Kaidan 

[shepskisaac]

Anacruisis wrote...

Kaidan disaprove -10000

Glad to see I the message was clear. Let's see if everyone gets it though.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 20 mars 2012 - 01:13 .

[Anacruisis]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Liara does seem a bit... unintentionally naively selfish in parts of the game. She freaks out about seeing Banshees and is extremely depressed after Thessia...
Hey, Liara, ever heard of a husk? Yeah, those were humans. Remember that little planet called Earth? That was my homeworld. If I can get over it without coddling, so can you.
Though I wouldn't protest to some minor coddling from Kaidan 

I will tolerate if Kaidan is depressed about Earth
He is worried about his parents
not to mention that his father is MIA and pressumed dead
I wish there is a paragon interrupt where you can hug Kaidan and calm him

[LadyofRivendell]

@Leborum: I thought choosing the Renegade options would stop the flirting, but it just added angry flirting instead of cute flirting. Nothing to avoid that, unfortunately, but Vega's not a romance so nothing to worry about.
My headcanon is that he's got a minor crush on Shep.

@Frylock: You're right. I hated how Kaidan became distant at the hospital, but you could tell why. Made me sad either way, however... Added some nice tension, though, and endearing apologies afterwards!

Edit:

IsaacShep wrote...

Anacruisis wrote...

Kaidan disaprove -10000

Glad to see I the message was clear.

 I didn't mean to offend if I did, Isaac. Like I said, I'm neither for or against it, I don't wish people bad or anything, it's just something I'm not fully comfortable with. It's not like I scorn homosexuals in my spare time. Sorry if I insulted you 

Modifié par LadyofRivendell, 20 mars 2012 - 01:15 .

[LolaLei]

ShallowlLife9871 wrote...

 
I'm a big fan of npc romance. it just seams more real when NPC conect with each other. I kinda wish there was a bit more of a build up with the Garris Tali thing....because they are just  ..together. a bit more firlting in me3 for them. I would like Garrius and Tali to say goodbye to each other or for one of them to remark about it when Shep says goodbye.

anyway, I was once again going though my screen Caps and found 2 pictures that  captured the endding perfectly.

Shep meeting with the starchild:


and Kaidan's reaction to the crash landing.

Haha! That expression on Shepard's face just says it all really! And Kaidan does actually look genuinely confused LOL. I was really pissed off when he got off the Normandy at the end, they could have at least made Shepard's LI's look upset or pissed off about being abducted by Joker.

[leighzard]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

@Leborum: I thought choosing the Renegade options would stop the flirting, but it just added angry flirting instead of cute flirting. Nothing to avoid that, unfortunately, but Vega's not a romance so nothing to worry about.
My headcanon is that he's got a minor crush on Shep.

  Well if I'm gonna have to flirt with him either way, I guess I might as well be nice to him and get a cool nickname.  I hope Kaidan's not jealous.

[legbamel]

BECC4 wrote...
@LadyofRivendell, I really should go to sleep so I'm gonna be briefish

A couple of things I would like to have seen;

-Reapers win, everyone gets anhilated but Liara's time capsule gets found by next cycle for Reapers to get defeated next time round
-Kaidan/other LI/squaddie pulling Shep's ass out of the fire for a change
-Some measure of success based on the strength of the fleet you'd massed
-maybe the crucible could do some sort of re-write of Reaper code but for some trade off a bit like the dark ritual thing but even then it takes time to get to all Reapers meaning fleet strength still important
-something along the same sort of lines with Reaper code but during the delay Shep has to decide which Reapers go 1st leading to different consequences for different races or factoring in of earlier choices, if you got the Geth and the Quarians to make peace they can fight their reapers off etc
-I don't mind the choice of trying to dominate the Reapers but it should ultimately fail
-Same with synthesis, don't mind it being one of the options but there should be so many more

Those re just some of the things i'd like, can't really go into more detail as on my phone and really should go to sleep

Edit: also what noxpanda said

I haven't posted in this thread yet as I was avoiding spoilers like Black Death but I thought I'd throw in my thoughts on the ending.  I went back a whole day so  I hope you guys aren't too tired of this topic, yet.

Ideally, your LI should have followed you up the beam instead of Anderson (though that was so sweet Kahlee would resurrect me just to kill me).  At the very least you could have died in each others arms while carrying out your choice.  I have no trouble with Shepard dying but I hate the idea that Kaidan lost her again.  If he wasn't dead he'd have been right behind her, crawling into the beam if he had to.  When Anderson showed up I assumed Kaidan and Garrus were lying on the ground, lifeless.

Obviously they aren't going to re-do the entire ending based on the epic in my head.   But they need to remove the Normandy jumping anywhere (I always assumed Kaidan and Garrus magically teleported to the ship and they were running to the store on Tuchanka for some irradiated milk or something).  Beyond the fact that my burned-up, filthy, blood-soaked crew should not have been on the Normandy in sparkling armor with no wounds, Joker was in the middle of fighting the Reapers.  Where the hell else would he have been going?

Give me an ending with all of the species on Earth cheering when the Reapers keel over/fly away then Garrus comforting Kaidan and I will be satisfied, if terribly sad for the poor, broken man and thus forced to play ME1 and start the cycle all over again.

EDIT: Dang!  TOP on my first post?!  How about some pre-beefcake Kaidan?  I hated the steroid-bod. 

Modifié par legbamel, 20 mars 2012 - 01:27 .