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[shepskisaac]

frylock23 wrote...

What rubbed me wrong about Cortez is that they throw the whole marriage thing out and then if you don't push the arc to its completion, he dies.

Then I guess every ME2 squadmate rubbed you wrong because if you don't help them with their personal problems and complete their arcs, they will most likely die during the suicide mission.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 20 mars 2012 - 02:44 .

[HalesBlack]

Little Miss Angel wrote...

Anacruisis wrote...

carine wrote...

I like Liara. :/ I've never romanced her, and I will admit that she's BioWare's favorite, but I don't see the need to go bashing her...

Still love Kaidan more of course, but Liara is my main Shep's BFF. haha

I'm not bashing her
I'm just ranting about it and I apologized about it
anyway, does anyone giggling when Harbinger's taunt in me2?

Yeah, I was never really a fan of Liara until ME3. I did get the sorta jealous vibe at first, but then I saw it as her being concerned about Shepard, especially after Kaidan gets injured. Then she and my Shep were BFFs.

Harbinger gives me the lulz. Might I direct you to this lovely DJ Harbinger song?

youtu.be/3xYHsyCyDvs

This is HILARIOUS! I couldn't stop listening to it! It's just so funny!

I swear though... the background song reminds me of Justin Bieber... is it?

As to Liara... I've always been a bit of a fan of her. She seemed really naive in ME1 which always kinda tugged at my heartstrings a bit.

I don't think my Shep considered her a BFF until ME3 though. It was nice to see some maturity sink in.

[Dorko525]

Omg, guys. Lmao I can't help but laugh but Marauder Shields on Insanity is putting up a hard fight! He seriously doesn't want me to relive the endings.

.....but seriously I wanna get it over with. Why can't I killllll him? I have good aim but he gets off a shot and I'm all discombobulated from it

[Lady Jess]

Anacruisis wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

To everyone: Bomb mission IS possible to do after the coup, but you need to keep the strict order - Turian Platoon -> Priority Tuchanka -> Coup -> Bomb. Nothing can go in between, so everything has to be done before Turian Platoon because if you do MORE than 2 missions between Turian Platoon and Bomb, the bomb will explode.

Thank a lot
I'm going to try it

The problem I just ran into, was getting the "Benning" quest AFTER rescuing the Turians. If you don't do Benning before the Coup, the diplomat looking for word on his son disappears. If I do Benning, then Genophage, coup, bomb won't the bomb go boom?

[lietk12]

frylock23 wrote...

Traynor is definitely not a statement and I enjoyed her character. What rubbed me wrong about Cortez is that they throw the whole marriage thing out and then if you don't push the arc to its completion, he dies.

To me, that's sort of a ham-handed statement. It's like his writer was saying "See? You couldn't handle him enough to be his friend, so now we'll kill him. Don't you feel guilty?" For a very minor character, he had an awful lot of screen time, more than some of the major characters IMO - more than Traynor, who was also a s/s LI. I just felt that it was handled poorly.

ME2 was based on the premise that you had to handle your psychotic/icy/corner-cutting/rigid/criminal/amoral/AWESOME squadmates well enough to be friends (doing loyalty sidequests for them where their backstories were explored while Collectors are abducting colonists) to save *other members of* your team. I don't see why it'd be any significant problem, then, if BW followed a similar pattern for the far less exotic (compared to ME2, anyways) Steve.
He was pretty important, as the guy piloting your shuttle to the places you wanted to go (as opposed to ME2's space magic) and participating in missions (like with Koris's rescue or the Grissom Academy docking) and such. I'm not sure what made you conclude that he was such "a very minor character" that his character development was less justifiable than Samantha's.
With that said, Samantha should have had a larger role and more character development. That's the fault of BW for misjudging what they thought would work with Samantha's story (not to mention the endings <_< ), not the fault of the writer(s) of Steve's story who thought that resolving Steve's grief and giving him a new sense of purpose in life would make him more willing to fight to survive (oh look it's ME2's loyalty thing again).

Modifié par lietk12, 20 mars 2012 - 02:56 .

[Anacruisis]

Dorko525 wrote...

Omg, guys. Lmao I can't help but laugh but Marauder Shields on Insanity is putting up a hard fight! He seriously doesn't want me to relive the endings.

.....but seriously I wanna get it over with. Why can't I killllll him? I have good aim but he gets off a shot and I'm all discombobulated from it

Because Marauder Shields wants to protect you from that damn God-AI-kid

[dstrawberrygirl]

So I'm having a tough time with renegade shep, and I'm only 1.5 hours in... I made her using Genesis as an un-romanced Shep who saved Kaidan (naturally) but did nasty things like killing rachni and council. She went on to romance Garrus and make a mess of most other things. Now I'm in the game with Kaidan and shep's so cold it's horrible! That line about the terrible burden is still there but shep never looks at him... then when she gets him to the med bay it's brief concern, and cut to talking to Hacket (and after that, Liara) and it's all Major Alenko this and that. I want to see how a friendship with Kaidan works out (and a romance with Garrus) but he is going to be so very hard to ignore. May have to load up my canon Shep and replay romance scenes - can't have Kaidan cheating on her with another Shep... keep telling self that...

[LadyofRivendell]

Dorko525 wrote...

Omg, guys. Lmao I can't help but laugh but Marauder Shields on Insanity is putting up a hard fight! He seriously doesn't want me to relive the endings.

.....but seriously I wanna get it over with. Why can't I killllll him? I have good aim but he gets off a shot and I'm all discombobulated from it

Well, I congradulate you on getting that far in insanity! That guy kept taking me down on Normal - Although, in my defense, it's hard to aim when you're also trying to scan the ground for bodies of your friends and while you're panicking.
Also, I can't spell congradulations.

[Aggie Punbot]

Congratulations.

[frylock23]

IsaacShep wrote...

frylock23 wrote...

What rubbed me wrong about Cortez is that they throw the whole marriage thing out and then if you don't push the arc to its completion, he dies.

Then I guess every ME2 squadmate rubbed you wrong because if you don't help them with their personal problems and complete their arcs, they will most likely die during the suicide mission.

Actually, yeah, I didn't really like ME2 because I felt that all the squadmate side missions while cool for vignettes really diluted the main story to the point where the game lost its focus. It's the reason why I have well over 40 ME1 saves for completed games and only 4 saves for completed ME2 playthroughs.

The separate ME2 missions are fine for playing as separate videogame levels, but I never felt connected to the game as a whole and never got really attached to any of the characters except the ones I'd already developed attachments to from ME1. I wish they'd found a way to connect the recruitment and side missions more to the overall plot of the Collectors so that I felt like I was playing toward the suicide mission more than just collecting a bunch of random people and solving their "daddy" issues.

And I also felt that I was recuiting most of these people needlessly. Why recruit the best assassin in the galaxy if we don't ever need to put in a hit on anyone? Why do we need redundant tech and biotics experts? I loved the mechanics of the suicude mission from the end, but I felt like I had more people than I needed for it. And if they had actually edited the number of crew members, I could have spent more time getting to know and develop real attachments for the ones who were left. There also could have been time to develop the main plot more around the crew that was gathered.

ME3 hit more of a sweet spot because the missions were pretty much all related to the main focus of the story and the game play mechanics were spot-on fun like they were in ME2. There were fewer squaddies and what interactions we got were better than the ones we got from the ginormous cast of characters we got in ME2. I still don't have the Kasumi DLC because I just plain don't want to burden myself with another squaddie I really don't care about who will give me two more missions I'll have to slog through if I ever go back to play ME2 again which is debatable if they don't fix the end of ME3.

So, I'm sorry if you thought your question is rhetorical, but it plainly wasn't and you plainly probably didn't get the answer you expected. I prefer my characters to have a real reason to be in the story and for their arcs to be a part of the main story so I get to know them as part of the action and not as a side show to the action.

[Elessie]

Dorko525 wrote...

Omg, guys. Lmao I can't help but laugh but Marauder Shields on Insanity is putting up a hard fight! He seriously doesn't want me to relive the endings.

.....but seriously I wanna get it over with. Why can't I killllll him? I have good aim but he gets off a shot and I'm all discombobulated from it

Hmm, I dunno.  He hit me once (I think that always happens) then just kinda stood there while I shot him... I think 8 times.  At least.  And I don't know if this actually helps, probably not, but I upgraded every single pistol before going to Earth, just in case. 

[Dorko525]

Anacruisis wrote...

Dorko525 wrote...

Omg, guys. Lmao I can't help but laugh but Marauder Shields on Insanity is putting up a hard fight! He seriously doesn't want me to relive the endings. 

.....but seriously I wanna get it over with. Why can't I killllll him? I have good aim but he gets off a shot and I'm all discombobulated from it

Because Marauder Shields wants to protect you from that damn God-AI-kid [smilie]applewebdata://958FB516-58C9-4753-9FB6-1F223F24CC3C/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

LadyofRivendell wrote...
Well, I congradulate you on getting that far in insanity! That guy kept taking me down on Normal - Although, in my defense, it's hard to aim when you're also trying to scan the ground for bodies of your friends and while you're panicking.
Also, I can't spell congradulations.

Hahahahhaha I bow down to the Mighty Marauder Shields. My heart just wasn't in it and I don't feel like going through the endings tonight . Maybe I'll continue that pt when I hear anything about a better ending dlc. I just hope autosave saved at the right spot lol. I can't believe our final boss is Marauder Shields but I admire his dedication to the cause lmao. 
Insanity on ME3 isn't bad as long as you do a NG+. I did hardcore on my first pt which is comparable to ME2's Insanity and I always played on Insanity then. LoL my ME friends think I'm crazy but I like prolonging the game haha. 
Btw, I know Fallout did a better ending dlc..what I want to know is did the fans reacted with this much outrage? Also how long did it take them to put it out? I swear I need closure!!! It can't end like that.

Elessie wrote...

Hmm, I dunno.  He hit me once (I think that always happens) then just kinda stood there while I shot him... I think 8 times.  At least.  And I don't know if this actually helps, probably not, but I upgraded every single pistol before going to Earth, just in case.  

Oh no I hope not! I mostly upgraded assault rifles and never carried pistols! Which is makes this last part even more baffling. WHY CAN'T I KEEP MY ASSAULT RIFLE? I'd have him down in a second!

Edit: added more comments lol

Modifié par Dorko525, 20 mars 2012 - 03:19 .

[LadyofRivendell]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Congratulations.

Thank you 
For spelling the word, that is. It scares me how lost I am sometimes without autocorrect or spell checker (the latter of which doesn't work on BSN for some reason). Although I don't quite trust my autocorrect either...


Just finished the Citadel Coup, love that part! And now I get Kaidan back <3 Plus a ton of Kaidan footage for me to screencap.

As for Broken Steel (Fallout 3's alternate ending) it took them about a year, I believe? Another game with ending DLC (Prince of Persia) only took them two months to do. However, PoP's new ending was an even bigger slap in the face than the original game - the devs basically said, "Remember when we told you this was going to be a trilogy? Haha, screw that, here's $10 for a 20 minute segment that is worse than our original cliffhanger and offers no closure except that we obviously can't make a sequel out of it. Haha!"

Modifié par LadyofRivendell, 20 mars 2012 - 03:18 .

[Dorko525]

Edit: double post

Modifié par Dorko525, 20 mars 2012 - 03:19 .

[frylock23]

lietk12 wrote...

frylock23 wrote...

Traynor is definitely not a statement and I enjoyed her character. What rubbed me wrong about Cortez is that they throw the whole marriage thing out and then if you don't push the arc to its completion, he dies.

To me, that's sort of a ham-handed statement. It's like his writer was saying "See? You couldn't handle him enough to be his friend, so now we'll kill him. Don't you feel guilty?" For a very minor character, he had an awful lot of screen time, more than some of the major characters IMO - more than Traynor, who was also a s/s LI. I just felt that it was handled poorly.

ME2 was based on the premise that you had to handle your psychotic/icy/corner-cutting/rigid/criminal/amoral/AWESOME squadmates well enough to be friends (doing loyalty sidequests for them where their backstories were explored while Collectors are abducting colonists) to save *other members of* your team. I don't see why it'd be any significant problem, then, if BW followed a similar pattern for the far less exotic (compared to ME2, anyways) Steve.
He was pretty important, as the guy piloting your shuttle to the places you wanted to go (as opposed to ME2's space magic) and participating in missions (like with Koris's rescue or the Grissom Academy docking) and such. I'm not sure what made you conclude that he was such "a very minor character" that his character development was less justifiable than Samantha's.
With that said, Samantha should have had a larger role and more character development. That's the fault of BW for misjudging what they thought would work with Samantha's story (not to mention the endings <_< ), not the fault of the writer(s) of Steve's story who thought that resolving Steve's grief and giving him a new sense of purpose in life would make him more willing to fight to survive (oh look it's ME2's loyalty thing again).

I just felt it was a cheap shot.

In my first playthrough. I told him I was there for him and not knowing I he was moving around liek everyone else, I didn't see him again, so I left it at that figuring that he was a s/s option and wouldn't be interested in femShep. Then he dies, and I find out that if you don't talk him through his grief, he dies.

With Sam, they don't do anything like that if you follow her through or not.

I didn't see any need for it. Maybe as part of the romance arc, but it just seems lopsided when compared to Traynor.

[Anacruisis]

Dorko525 wrote...
Oh no I hope not! I mostly upgraded assault rifles and never carried
pistols! Which is makes this last part even more baffling. WHY CAN'T I
KEEP MY ASSAULT RIFLE? I'd have him down in a second!

Edit: added more comments lol

during the last mission
I only carry a mattock and N7 SMG
How on earth I only got the PLOT GUN after being "kissed" by Harbinger
Where's my biotic???
(I played as Vanguard) <_<

[Dorko525]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

Congratulations.

Thank you [smilie]applewebdata://FE859220-5C72-4811-A832-EFDAAD1AA1BC/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]
For spelling the word, that is. It scares me how lost I am sometimes without autocorrect or spell checker (the latter of which doesn't work on BSN for some reason). Although I don't quite trust my autocorrect either...


Just finished the Citadel Coup, love that part! And now I get Kaidan back [smilie]applewebdata://FE859220-5C72-4811-A832-EFDAAD1AA1BC/images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie] Plus a ton of Kaidan footage for me to screencap.

As for Broken Steel (Fallout 3's alternate ending) it took them about a year, I believe? Another game with ending DLC (Prince of Persia) only took them two months to do. However, PoP's new ending was an even bigger slap in the face than the original game - the devs basically said, "Remember when we told you this was going to be a trilogy? Haha, screw that, here's $10 for a 20 minute segment that is worse than our original cliffhanger and offers no closure except that we obviously can't make a sequel out of it. Haha!"

A ye---A YEAR?!!? Nooooo, surely they didn't demand a deserving ending like us though. I remember playing Fallout 3's ending and saying "hmm EXCELLENT I have this squadmate that can stand radioactive substances, lemme just send him in" BUT APPARENTLY THAT WOULD BE A DOUCHEY MOVE lol.....ME fans is supremely loyal...and very vocal. As for PoP, Bioware wouldn't dare pull something like that. Seeing that this the end of the trilogy and all. Offering no closure would just send fans into a RAGE. The universe will probably blow up lol. I'm quite proud that most of us is giving clear concise points as to why the ending doesn't make sense. 

Anacruisis wrote...

Dorko525 wrote...
Oh no I hope not! I mostly upgraded assault rifles and never carried 
pistols! Which is makes this last part even more baffling. WHY CAN'T I 
KEEP MY ASSAULT RIFLE? I'd have him down in a second!
Edit: added more comments lol

during the last mission
I only carry a mattock and N7 SMG
How on earth I only got the PLOT GUN after being "kissed" by Harbinger
Where's my biotic???
(I played as Vanguard) [smilie]applewebdata://FE859220-5C72-4811-A832-EFDAAD1AA1BC/images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]

This ending has so many plot holes that I truly wonder if Bioware just wrote a bunch of crap on loose paper, tossed it into a hat, and picked out SPACE MAGIC. Because that's the only way I can see how they FUBAR'd this. I adored Bioware games. But this PLOT GUN is some crazy stuff lolEdit: added more stuff coz I like to babble lol

Modifié par Dorko525, 20 mars 2012 - 03:35 .

[madlily]

so.. question.. is there any 'good' ME3 fanfic out yet?

[LadyofRivendell]

Dorko525 wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

Congratulations.

Thank you [smilie]applewebdata://FE859220-5C72-4811-A832-EFDAAD1AA1BC/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]
For spelling the word, that is. It scares me how lost I am sometimes without autocorrect or spell checker (the latter of which doesn't work on BSN for some reason). Although I don't quite trust my autocorrect either...


Just finished the Citadel Coup, love that part! And now I get Kaidan back [smilie]applewebdata://FE859220-5C72-4811-A832-EFDAAD1AA1BC/images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie] Plus a ton of Kaidan footage for me to screencap.

As for Broken Steel (Fallout 3's alternate ending) it took them about a year, I believe? Another game with ending DLC (Prince of Persia) only took them two months to do. However, PoP's new ending was an even bigger slap in the face than the original game - the devs basically said, "Remember when we told you this was going to be a trilogy? Haha, screw that, here's $10 for a 20 minute segment that is worse than our original cliffhanger and offers no closure except that we obviously can't make a sequel out of it. Haha!"

A ye---A YEAR?!!? Nooooo, surely they didn't demand a deserving ending like us though. I remember playing Fallout 3's ending and saying "hmm EXCELLENT I have this squadmate that can stand radioactive substances, lemme just send him in" BUT APPARENTLY THAT WOULD BE A DOUCHEY MOVE lol.....ME fans is supremely loyal...and very vocal. As for PoP, Bioware wouldn't dare pull something like that. Seeing that this the end of the trilogy and all. Offering no closure would just send fans into a RAGE. The universe will probably blow up lol. I'm quite proud that most of us is giving clear concise points as to why the ending doesn't make sense. 

I think, best guess if BW started working on it now, they might be able to pull off ending DLC in about 8 months, just in time for the holidays. 
Maybe 6 months if they went with the Indoc theory and began the DLC after Shep wakes up, as opposed to changing the entire ending (reprogramming all of that would be a nightmare, I'd assume).
It's gonna take time no matter what, though  Keep holding on!


On the subject of fanfics, I actually began writing one today. I feel so accomplished  Not that it's good or that I'll upload it, but hey, at least I finally convinced myself to write. 

Modifié par LadyofRivendell, 20 mars 2012 - 03:32 .

[Dorko525]

Edit: zomg my iPhone keeps double posting!

Modifié par Dorko525, 20 mars 2012 - 03:44 .

[madlily]

fallout 3 = Oct 31 2008

Broken steel = 5 May 2009

so 8 months.. but to be fair.. Bethesda put out ALOT of dlc between those two dates.. and it was all really good

[frylock23]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Dorko525 wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

Congratulations.

Thank you applewebdata://FE859220-5C72-4811-A832-EFDAAD1AA1BC/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png
For spelling the word, that is. It scares me how lost I am sometimes without autocorrect or spell checker (the latter of which doesn't work on BSN for some reason). Although I don't quite trust my autocorrect either...


Just finished the Citadel Coup, love that part! And now I get Kaidan back applewebdata://FE859220-5C72-4811-A832-EFDAAD1AA1BC/images/forum/emoticons/heart.png Plus a ton of Kaidan footage for me to screencap.

As for Broken Steel (Fallout 3's alternate ending) it took them about a year, I believe? Another game with ending DLC (Prince of Persia) only took them two months to do. However, PoP's new ending was an even bigger slap in the face than the original game - the devs basically said, "Remember when we told you this was going to be a trilogy? Haha, screw that, here's $10 for a 20 minute segment that is worse than our original cliffhanger and offers no closure except that we obviously can't make a sequel out of it. Haha!"

A ye---A YEAR?!!? Nooooo, surely they didn't demand a deserving ending like us though. I remember playing Fallout 3's ending and saying "hmm EXCELLENT I have this squadmate that can stand radioactive substances, lemme just send him in" BUT APPARENTLY THAT WOULD BE A DOUCHEY MOVE lol.....ME fans is supremely loyal...and very vocal. As for PoP, Bioware wouldn't dare pull something like that. Seeing that this the end of the trilogy and all. Offering no closure would just send fans into a RAGE. The universe will probably blow up lol. I'm quite proud that most of us is giving clear concise points as to why the ending doesn't make sense. 

I think, best guess if BW started working on it now, they might be able to pull off ending DLC in about 8 months, just in time for the holidays. 
Maybe 6 months if they went with the Indoc theory and began the DLC after Shep wakes up, as opposed to changing the entire ending (reprogramming all of that would be a nightmare, I'd assume).
It's gonna take time no matter what, though  Keep holding on!


On the subject of fanfics, I actually began writing one today. I feel so accomplished  Not that it's good or that I'll upload it, but hey, at least I finally convinced myself to write. 

Look, if a year is what it takes. I'll wait a year. I want them to do it right.

[LadyofRivendell]

Dorko525 wrote...

This ending has so many plot holes that I truly wonder if Bioware just wrote a bunch of crap on loose paper, tossed it into a hat, and picked out SPACE MAGIC. Because that's the only way I can see how they FUBAR'd this. I adored Bioware games. But this PLOT GUN is some crazy stuff lolEdit: added more stuff coz I like to babble lol

...Sad thing is, you're not that far off. Have you seen the leaked shot of Walters' rough draft of the ending?

It's basically a bunch of scribbled notes on a paper, including things like, "Shepard dies", "End of first Matrix" "Relays explode" "Speculation for everyone!" and a roughly drawn cause/effect flowchart.

Dorko525 wrote...

Edit: zomg my iPhone keeps double posting. 

 

iPhone woes  I feel your pain there.
I actually named my iPhone EDI. Makes it a lot funner to say, "EDI, get me directions to Starbucks" and having her (Siri, technically) reply "Certainly, Commander". I trained EDI to call me Commander.
I'm a sad, sad person.

Modifié par LadyofRivendell, 20 mars 2012 - 03:39 .

[Sandtigress]

Anacruisis wrote...

Dorko525 wrote...
Oh no I hope not! I mostly upgraded assault rifles and never carried
pistols! Which is makes this last part even more baffling. WHY CAN'T I
KEEP MY ASSAULT RIFLE? I'd have him down in a second!

Edit: added more comments lol

during the last mission
I only carry a mattock and N7 SMG
How on earth I only got the PLOT GUN after being "kissed" by Harbinger
Where's my biotic???
(I played as Vanguard) <_<

Oh yeah.  Anelle upgraded MAJORLY from her days of ME1 and a pistol and her biotics - she carried the M9 Avenger and the N7 Valiant.

For biotics though, I can imagine Shepard being hurt to bad for the necessary concentration - with a wounded arm as well it would be hard to utilize the physical pnuemonics biotics are trained with.

Plot gun though?  Um, she lost both of hers and picked up someone's pistol from the ground?  Hopefully not Kaidan's?

[yoshibb]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Dorko525 wrote...

This ending has so many plot holes that I truly wonder if Bioware just wrote a bunch of crap on loose paper, tossed it into a hat, and picked out SPACE MAGIC. Because that's the only way I can see how they FUBAR'd this. I adored Bioware games. But this PLOT GUN is some crazy stuff lolEdit: added more stuff coz I like to babble lol

...Sad thing is, you're not that far off. Have you seen the leaked shot of Walters' rough draft of the ending?

It's basically a bunch of scribbled notes on a paper, including things like, "Shepard dies", "End of first Matrix" "Relays explode" "Speculation for everyone!" and a roughly drawn cause/effect flowchart.

I know, oh my gosh, it's so bad 

Modifié par yoshibb, 20 mars 2012 - 03:58 .