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[Major Alenko]

 It's quite funny how many people don't know Kaidan is romanceable for maleSheps. Like all the media have hardly mentioned it (not exactly sure if any have). There's videos on youtube titled 'All Gay scenes' and Kaidan isn't included. I only ever see Cortez mentioned. Probably because of the majority saved Ashley not sure, but I suppose it makes it more special. 

[Soccerchic601]

yoshibb wrote...

I know but it's still progress as I see it. As an artist, I know what it feels like to have my babies/paintings massacred. It's not fun, but at the same time I get more positive than negative feedback so I see it as a few bad apples. However, I would definitely notice if the majority had a fundamental problem with one of my paintings. And the first thing I would do is try in fix that cause, you know, I need money. Artistic integrity be damned. Plus, if a large amount of people are telling me the same thing, it's probably cause I made a mistake, not because they are all jerks who hate art.

The problem I see is that Bioware is not as open to criticism as they claim. They are defending the ending like a mother would a baby. They are looking at us like a bunch of angry bears rather than a bunch of concerned citizens who want to help. If they want to do this they can't do it begrudgingly and they have to open their minds and listen to what we are saying. 

We are not just claiming the ending is a piece of garbage. We are saying the ending is a piece of garbage and insult to the series as a whole and here's why. The only way we can make them understand this is to make them look at what we've written. They've taken the first step in trying to figure out the issues. Next is the hard part, admitting you made a mistake.

Again, we are talking about fundamental mistakes not simply difference of opinion. That is the big issue here. It's like the difference between someone saying, 'oh I don't like that color there' to 'Good God, someone put a hole in your painting!'

This.  Which makes me really, really surprised that Bioware is being serious about the endings. When I first read the leaked script, I thought it was a massive troll. Once the Space Edition games came out and everyone started confirming the endings, I still held hope that we were being trolled.  Alas, I was wrong.

I still think there's something fishy going on. Maybe I'm in denial, but I know that Bioware is better than this.  I really want to believe that there's more to this than they're letting on. There's just too much going in the ending for them to just leave it like that. I'm still giving them the benefit of the doubt, but I guess we'll be finding out in April.

[Elessie]

I'm kind of afraid that if they add something, it will be a scene like in ME2 where we control Joker, and find out what he's doing running from the blast. =(

Modifié par Elessie, 21 mars 2012 - 09:39 .

[Queen Deadite]

I'm still so pissed off about the non choices in the end I can't even play it a 2nd time. I try and get angry and turn it off. I actually just deleted all of my saves from all 3 games. I figure I will start from scratch and play really really slowly through and hope for some patches to fix this mess.

[sanmar]

syllogi wrote...

Has everyone seen this Mass Effect Romance Survey? I'd love to see how the results turn out, it's gotten a good sampling.

yeah, I've seen it and already voted

[Elessara]

What I don't understand is the emphasis the writers placed on giving the players so much to speculate about at the end of ME3. From what I can tell, most of the time most players don't want speculation; they want answers. And they want those answers to make sense in the context of the game universe. And given the comments about the ending of DA2 (and even DAO/DAA) most players want closure - for their own character and for the NPCs they care about. The ending of ME3 gave none of that.

[passinjer]

syllogi wrote...

Has everyone seen this Mass Effect Romance Survey? I'd love to see how the results turn out, it's gotten a good sampling.

i just voted. is it weird that i suggested that they should include an elcor romance? i think those elcors are so cute, especially the one at the embassy would wanted you to rescue elcors at Dekkuna. also i want a mordin romance, my femshep secretly had a crush on him. i miss mordin
obviously also asked for more kaidan goodness

[LolaLei]

It seems to me from the latest news that Bioware haven't actually been listening to our requests at all and are just going to add content to the already ****** poor endings we've been given. They are presuming we just want closure, when in actual fact we also want endings that reflect the choices we made during the course of 3 games, ranging from good endings to bad ones. We only have one chance to get the endings we want. As it stands if they add content to them and they turn out to be a heap of crap then we won't ever get another chance to change them again, we literally only have one shot at this.

What scares me about the possibility of them "fixing" the ending is that they might just add new dialogue with the star child followed by some half arsed slider epilogue telling me how my crew populated a new colony on the arse-end-of-nowhereia, Kaidan shot himself in the face after being forced to copulate with Diane Allers and Shepard ends up forever alone on Earth.

... Urgh ****, I really hope they don't balls this one up.

[dstrawberrygirl]

The more I read on the indoctrination theory the more I like it, I wouldn't mind so much if they ran with it, provided there's more of an obvious realization that the only way Shep can win is if she does what she went there to do - defeat the reapers! I want to decide how it ends, and get the sense that I did decide something, based on facts. And if shep breathes at the end, then confirm that it was because she shrugged off the effects of indoctrination, and give us some cheer! rousing triumphant music, a reunion with squad, something - ANYTHING. Just a little hope would be nice... As it is I had to go to the dentist today and while it was bloody unpleasant, at least it didn't leave me feeling gloomy for days on end.

[sanmar]

@Lolalei  Don't give them ideas 

Modifié par sanmar, 21 mars 2012 - 10:10 .

[LolaLei]

sanmar wrote...

@Lolalei  Don't give them ideas 

LOL man I'd be so pissed off if they did that!

[Anacruisis]

Just read TV Tropes about mass effect 3
at first it was funny then it turns really depressing

LolaLei wrote...

It seems to me from the latest news that
Bioware haven't actually been listening to our requests at all and are
just going to add content to the already ****** poor endings we've been
given. They are presuming we just want closure, when in actual fact we
also want endings that reflect the choices we made during the course of 3
games, ranging from good endings to bad ones. We only have one chance
to get the endings we want. As it stands if they add content to them and
they turn out to be a heap of crap then we won't ever get another
chance to change them again, we literally only have one shot at this.

What
scares me about the possibility of them "fixing" the ending is that
they might just add new dialogue with the star child followed by some
half arsed slider epilogue telling me how my crew populated a new colony
on the arse-end-of-nowhereia, Kaidan shot himself in the face after
being forced to copulate with Diane Allers and Shepard ends up forever
alone on Earth.

... Urgh ****, I really hope they don't balls this one up.

Gah I rather make Kaidan die because of Harbinger's Laser Beam

Modifié par Anacruisis, 21 mars 2012 - 10:14 .

[LolaLei]

Anacruisis wrote...

Just read TV Tropes about mass effect 3
at first it was funny then it turns really depressing

LolaLei wrote...

It seems to me from the latest news that
Bioware haven't actually been listening to our requests at all and are
just going to add content to the already ****** poor endings we've been
given. They are presuming we just want closure, when in actual fact we
also want endings that reflect the choices we made during the course of 3
games, ranging from good endings to bad ones. We only have one chance
to get the endings we want. As it stands if they add content to them and
they turn out to be a heap of crap then we won't ever get another
chance to change them again, we literally only have one shot at this.

What
scares me about the possibility of them "fixing" the ending is that
they might just add new dialogue with the star child followed by some
half arsed slider epilogue telling me how my crew populated a new colony
on the arse-end-of-nowhereia, Kaidan shot himself in the face after
being forced to copulate with Diane Allers and Shepard ends up forever
alone on Earth.

... Urgh ****, I really hope they don't balls this one up.

Gah I rather make Kaidan die because of Harbinger's Laser Beam

Maybe that can be the dark sacrifice in ME3, everybody survives IF Kaidan agrees to do the freaknasty with Diane Allers LOL!

Modifié par LolaLei, 21 mars 2012 - 10:19 .

[Kyria Nyriese]

I think what they missed about concluding the series was the fact that it was supposed to conclude Shepard's story. Not leave more speculation, it was supposed to END the story, not leave us asking WTF happened. It didn't other than the fact that most likely she is dead. There really isn't much closure to the ending as it stands.

[dstrawberrygirl]

LolaLei wrote...

Maybe that can be the dark sacrifice in ME3, everybody survives IF Kaidan agrees to do the freaknasty with Diane Allers LOL!

Oh goodness - please don't give them ideas! lol, I think that would be one of few ways the ending could be made worse

[Niraven]

LolaLei wrote...

Maybe that can be the dark sacrifice in ME3, everybody survives IF Kaidan agrees to do the freaknasty with Diane Allers LOL!

I'd hope that my Shepard had enough Paragon points to persuade James Vega to do the deed in Kaidan's stead. Then James and Diana can go get married, have babies, and name them Snooki, JWoww, Situation, Ronnie, Sammi, and Vinny.

[LolaLei]

Niraven wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Maybe that can be the dark sacrifice in ME3, everybody survives IF Kaidan agrees to do the freaknasty with Diane Allers LOL!

I'd hope that my Shepard had enough Paragon points to persuade James Vega to do the deed in Kaidan's stead. Then James and Diana can go get married, have babies, and name them Snooki, JWoww, Situation, Ronnie, Sammi, and Vinny.

LOL! I think we're onto something here!

[Anacruisis]

Niraven wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Maybe that can be the dark sacrifice in ME3, everybody survives IF Kaidan agrees to do the freaknasty with Diane Allers LOL!

I'd hope that my Shepard had enough Paragon points to persuade James Vega to do the deed in Kaidan's stead. Then James and Diana can go get married, have babies, and name them Snooki, JWoww, Situation, Ronnie, Sammi, and Vinny.

yup yup:whistle::whistle:
but for the love of Orange
dont make a dark sacrifice again
I fell like to throw up for that

[Niraven]

Alistair's backward crab crawl to the headboard during that scene made me chuckle, though!

Modifié par Niraven, 21 mars 2012 - 10:40 .

[LadyofRivendell]

Elessie wrote...

I'm kind of afraid that if they add something, it will be a scene like in ME2 where we control Joker, and find out what he's doing running from the blast. =(

I kinda get this feeling too, from what they said. It seems like they're more willing to EXPLAIN the ending than give us a new one. That, and it seems like they're oddly dead set on keeping Shepard dead or stranded on Earth. That would just make it worse...
Either keep the endings how they are now without any explanation, or add a new ending altogether. Don't try to explain any of this and call it good. My issue isn't with the plot holes, it's with the ending itself and the aftermath.

The more I think about it, the more I'm accepting that what we've got is what we're getting. Time to write a fanfic or form a headcanon or something... I'd rather have Shepard dead than alive, if she can't be with her crew. At least then she could hang out with Ashley and Anderson...



Wait, you watched the Dark Ritual scene? Why would you do that to youself?! That's what the "Press Square/Esc/X to skip" button is for!

Modifié par LadyofRivendell, 21 mars 2012 - 10:43 .

[Niraven]

Because we're talking about my favorite two gamer!boyfriends right now:



So. Much. Love.

Modifié par Niraven, 21 mars 2012 - 10:49 .

[LolaLei]

Niraven wrote...

Because we're talking about my favorite two gamer!boyfriends right now:



So. Much. Love.

OMG! LOVE IT!!!!

[Major Alenko]

dstrawberrygirl wrote...

The more I read on the indoctrination theory the more I like it, I wouldn't mind so much if they ran with it, provided there's more of an obvious realization that the only way Shep can win is if she does what she went there to do - defeat the reapers! I want to decide how it ends, and get the sense that I did decide something, based on facts. And if shep breathes at the end, then confirm that it was because she shrugged off the effects of indoctrination, and give us some cheer! rousing triumphant music, a reunion with squad, something - ANYTHING. Just a little hope would be nice... As it is I had to go to the dentist today and while it was bloody unpleasant, at least it didn't leave me feeling gloomy for days on end.

Indoctrination is basically the cliche of 'it was all a dream' But that to me shows how bad the ending is that people are actively trying to prove (successfully aswell) that it was a dream. But it's all just grasping a straws to try and find meaning, where there could be none. I made the bad decision to replay the ending again, it's just soo bad, the whole star child, Shepard saying nothing and just accepting everything that little sht says.
But Bioware see nothing wrong with it. People want closure for the characters, if Bioware hadn't invested so much time in them it wouldn't be a problem.
I get it in the grand scheme of things the endings make sense, allowing organic life to flourish by it's self. Which never happened before because of the Citadel and the mass relays.
No life went out and created something for themselves. You could say they were uplified exactly the way the Krogans were.
That's all fine and everything but it's the whole crap with the Normandy that's so annoying. I don't even want to try and justify or explain that.

[LadyofRivendell]

I personally like the Indoc theory, it's better than anything else we have and allows me to sleep peacefully (more or less) at night knowing that the story isn't over yet.
I hate the destruction of technology. THAT right there is overused and uncreative, as well as frustrating. Why take a huge step backwards in your series?

[Silver77nz]

I can't believe they thought those endings were so great! This is the trilogy that is going to answer ALL your questions and tie up ALL your loose ends!! Huh? Ok here rolls the credits. Anything, anything.....nope. Seriously?!? All it did was leave me with more questions and a unhealthy amount of anger and despair. These are suppose to be professional writers. They did good and then suddenly a new team of writers tripping on drugs came in and wrote the endings. The company actually shipped this game off thinking BRILLIANT!

Indoctrination theory yea I could see that but they would have a lot of explaining to do. How are they gonna tie up all the other endings who didn't do destroy and lived. It makes the most sense. Also Shep being knocked unconscious I think would be more believable. This isn't the first time Shep has been knocked unconscious by a bright light. First time was Arrival. Object Rho at full power hit Shep with a bright light and Shep woke up 2 days later. We all know we can have trippy dreams while we are asleep. I don't know how or what they are going to do. My faith in BW is slowly beginning to change. Especially if they start lying about how you will have closure at the end then pull the stunt they did.



*damn it top* runs off to grab pic

Modifié par Silverpearl1977, 21 mars 2012 - 11:08 .