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[Lady Jess]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...



My next character is going to be a Garrus romance, and do you know why? Because he stands up and says "Hey Kaidan, I understand you're shocked but dude, get off her back!" on Horizon. Vetta is my Canon, Kaidan has her, but I still have to play a Thane and Garrus run. Of course Kaidan gets all of them in ME1

DOES HE!? Why have I never taken him on that mission!?! Wait, the Horizon in ME2?!

My cannon is always Kaidan. I have a Thane one, but Im afraid of playing her cause ima cry. And I have a Garrus one im half way through.

Yeah ME2 Horizon Garrus will defend Shep. It's the moment I knew his romance was next!

[LadyofRivendell]

  Friends reference, love it. Although I hate that particular episode.

[Madgey]

Whaaaat? Kaidan can die in ME3!



Who would do that?

[Celestria129]

Cause Mass Effect 3 has cause my emotional state to jump all over the place, mainly the Kaidan Romance and the “endings”, I have decided to post my thought here to see if that helps me process it better, cause my family
and friends are not into games and they would most likely think I am crazy if I rant/talk to them, and if I eat anymore icecream I might be the size of a whale and I wanted to lose weight this year Thanks Bioware!<_<.......lol  So sorry it this is long and makes no sense.

Ok so I have seen how the other romances play out by watching videos on youtube, could never bring myself to romance anyone else or do a MShep play through, love Jennifer’s VA to much. Anyway, this is my opinion as why I believe the Kaidan Romance arc is one of the best and why I love it so much.

Note: I have only ever done a paragon romance/playthroughs so that is what I am basing this off of. Also if I reference some thing that did not happen in game, I am sorry, reading to many Shenko fics lately;)

 

The Kaidan romance is so sweet and full of emotions:)<3:wub::crying:. No other romance or character for that matter has made me cry as so much or care so much that it effects my daily life. In ME1 and ME3 he was there for Shepard, but not by asking how she was, but by saying things that Shepard needs to hear, by looking out for her and also just being there when Shepard needed someone to be there. Especially in ME3 he never really asks how Shepard is doing or feeling, Kaidan just knows Shepard well enough and cares for her so much that
he does not need to ask, he just knows when she needs him and what she needs to hear to help her get through it.

Horizon made me love and respect Kaidan even more: yes I am going there bare with me. Truth be told after the initial shock were off and I had time to think with a clear head, I was glad Kaidan reacted the way he did,  hell it showed how much he loves Shepard with how long it took him to realize that maybe his Shepard was really alive again (the email apology email in ME2), and even at the beginning of ME3 where he is a still a little unsure. I think he just wanted to make sure it was really truly her before he let his heart feel again, Rona already broke his heart once he did not want the same to happen with Shepard, he really truly loves her. I don’t mean to disrespect to the original crew that did join Shepard in ME2 but I truly think that Kaidan has always had Shepard’s back.

Ok so the endings,[/rant] I will only say the one thing cause it is Kaidan related and it is the one thing I have the biggest issue with, the scene where the Normandy crashes on a tropical planet…….that could never happen! There is no way in hell that anyone on the normany, especially Kaidan, would be running away/escaping during a battle. If there is one thing I am sure of about the Characters that Mass Effect created it is that in no way would they be doing that, they would be back on earth fighting like hell![/rant]

 

Ok I think I feel alittle better now, off to play through number 4 (all Kaidan mances:wub:……I am hopeless)  

Modifié par Celestria129, 24 mars 2012 - 02:10 .

[LadyofRivendell]

Madgey wrote...

Whaaaat? Kaidan can die in ME3!



Who would do that?

 Heartless jerks, that's who.

It is interesting to see the change in dialogue, though. I didn't even have to persuade Kaidan to lower his gun in my game, nor did I get any Renegade interrupt options. He sounds so hostile in that vid... I don't like angry Kaidan. I like trusting and adorable Kaidan.

Modifié par LadyofRivendell, 24 mars 2012 - 02:12 .

[Celestria129]

Madgey wrote...

Whaaaat? Kaidan can die in ME3!



Who would do that?

I read that in the wiki but did not believe it untill i saw it and was like damn it i need another pint of icecream.

[Sandtigress]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Madgey wrote...

Whaaaat? Kaidan can die in ME3!



Who would do that?

 Heartless jerks, that's who.

It is interesting to see the change in dialogue, though. I didn't even have to persuade Kaidan to lower his gun in my game, nor did I get any Renegade interrupt options. He sounds so hostile in that vid... I don't like angry Kaidan. I like trusting and adorable Kaidan.

The only renegade interrupt I remember in my paragon game was who got to shoot Udina.

For Anelle, I have to believe she never intended to use her gun on Kaidan.  She'd rather let Udina open those doors and face-off all of Cerberus first.  But she was ready to use her gun to protect the rest of the Council if necessary, from Udina or anyone else.

[dstrawberrygirl]

Madgey wrote...

Whaaaat? Kaidan can die in ME3!



Who would do that?

Nooooo!!!!!

Evil, evil people - no that's just plain wrong

[yoshibb]

I watched that scene but I'm glad they put it in. Still sad cause I wonder what Kaidan was going to say before he dies "Shepard, I..." 

I don't mind the option for anyone's death cause it's a choice. I'd like your reason behind it to be more than "I hate him so he has to die D:<" but for instance if I ever get around to my jerk Shepard, a lot of people are going to end up dead. That's where an ending like the one they gave us makes sense. Except, then they have choices to save everyone and to have only a few people die like Mordin and Thane, with deaths that do justice their characters and they are still uplifting. Sacrificing for the greater good.

That's when a ****ty ending no matter what makes no sense. It destroys the entire tone of my playthrough. I helped basically the entire galaxy make peace with each other and saved entire races in the process. Until that final ten minutes, there is no hint that you will lose. There's a hint that it will be hard but never that you will nuke the galaxy beyond repair. That's why the argument that the ending has to be bittersweet is completely ridiculous.

Modifié par yoshibb, 24 mars 2012 - 02:45 .

[leighzard]

Sandtigress wrote...

The only renegade interrupt I remember in my paragon game was who got to shoot Udina.

For Anelle, I have to believe she never intended to use her gun on Kaidan.  She'd rather let Udina open those doors and face-off all of Cerberus first.  But she was ready to use her gun to protect the rest of the Council if necessary, from Udina or anyone else.

  It's your Shepard believe what you want.

My tester Shepard didn't want Kaidan to have to make the call to take the shot.  Even though she intended to keep her relationship with Garrus, she didn't want Kaidan to have to weigh the choices and just made the decision for him.  Keeps thinks from weighing to heavily on him

My cannon Shepard needed Kaidan to take the shot so that he could see that she was still the same Shepard she always was.  She preferred to talk people down from confrontation whenever possible.  And since she's shacking up with Kaidan in the captain's quarters, she needed him to know that she;s not reckless, she's the same woman he fell in love with.

[NeverQuiteAwake]

leborum wrote...

Sandtigress wrote...

The only renegade interrupt I remember in my paragon game was who got to shoot Udina.

For Anelle, I have to believe she never intended to use her gun on Kaidan.  She'd rather let Udina open those doors and face-off all of Cerberus first.  But she was ready to use her gun to protect the rest of the Council if necessary, from Udina or anyone else.

  It's your Shepard believe what you want.

My tester Shepard didn't want Kaidan to have to make the call to take the shot.  Even though she intended to keep her relationship with Garrus, she didn't want Kaidan to have to weigh the choices and just made the decision for him.  Keeps thinks from weighing to heavily on him

My cannon Shepard needed Kaidan to take the shot so that he could see that she was still the same Shepard she always was.  She preferred to talk people down from confrontation whenever possible.  And since she's shacking up with Kaidan in the captain's quarters, she needed him to know that she;s not reckless, she's the same woman he fell in love with.

Yeah, I like the idea of Kaidan taking the shot. It seems like a big character moment for him. Unfortunately, I reacted instinctively in my first playthrough and shot Udina.

[LadyofRivendell]

yoshibb wrote...

That's when a ****ty ending no matter what makes no sense. It destroys the entire tone of my playthrough. I helped basically the entire galaxy make peace with each other and saved entire races in the process. Until that final ten minutes, there is no hint that you will lose. There's a hint that it will be hard but never that you will nuke the galaxy beyond repair. That's why the argument that the ending has to be bittersweet is completely ridiculous.

I know! And what makes it even worse is that I actually believed it when I told my crew we could win this. I thought that I had everything lined up for a good victory, with a minimal toll...  Then Bioware said, "Yeah right!"


With all due respect, BW, I think we've earned the choice for a happy ending.

[slyborg]

dstrawberrygirl wrote...

Madgey wrote...

Whaaaat? Kaidan can die in ME3!



Who would do that?

Nooooo!!!!!

Evil, evil people - no that's just plain wrong

That's truly horrible. Now I have to erase my brain.

[leighzard]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

That's when a ****ty ending no matter what makes no sense. It destroys the entire tone of my playthrough. I helped basically the entire galaxy make peace with each other and saved entire races in the process. Until that final ten minutes, there is no hint that you will lose. There's a hint that it will be hard but never that you will nuke the galaxy beyond repair. That's why the argument that the ending has to be bittersweet is completely ridiculous.

I know! And what makes it even worse is that I actually believed it when I told my crew we could win this. I thought that I had everything lined up for a good victory, with a minimal toll...  Then Bioware said, "Yeah right!"


With all due respect, BW, I think we've earned the choice for a happy ending.

"Have you ever noticed that when anyone says 'With all due respect' what they really mean is..."

Ya know, the ending might have been less terrible if my squad had told me we wouldn't make it from the start.  Of course, then, why would I bother finishing the game?

"Clarity" and "closure" be damned.  I still have high hopes for the forthcoming dlc.  This cake had better not be a lie.

Sorry, sometimes I get cranky.

[Celestria129]

leborum wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

That's when a ****ty ending no matter what makes no sense. It destroys the entire tone of my playthrough. I helped basically the entire galaxy make peace with each other and saved entire races in the process. Until that final ten minutes, there is no hint that you will lose. There's a hint that it will be hard but never that you will nuke the galaxy beyond repair. That's why the argument that the ending has to be bittersweet is completely ridiculous.

I know! And what makes it even worse is that I actually believed it when I told my crew we could win this. I thought that I had everything lined up for a good victory, with a minimal toll...  Then Bioware said, "Yeah right!"


With all due respect, BW, I think we've earned the choice for a happy ending.

"Have you ever noticed that when anyone says 'With all due respect' what they really mean is..."

Ya know, the ending might have been less terrible if my squad had told me we wouldn't make it from the start.  Of course, then, why would I bother finishing the game?

"Clarity" and "closure" be damned.  I still have high hopes for the forthcoming dlc.  This cake had better not be a lie.

Sorry, sometimes I get cranky.

or Sten will get angery and you won't like him when he is angery .............wait thats the Hulk:?

[LadyofRivendell]

leborum wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

That's when a ****ty ending no matter what makes no sense. It destroys the entire tone of my playthrough. I helped basically the entire galaxy make peace with each other and saved entire races in the process. Until that final ten minutes, there is no hint that you will lose. There's a hint that it will be hard but never that you will nuke the galaxy beyond repair. That's why the argument that the ending has to be bittersweet is completely ridiculous.

I know! And what makes it even worse is that I actually believed it when I told my crew we could win this. I thought that I had everything lined up for a good victory, with a minimal toll...  Then Bioware said, "Yeah right!"


With all due respect, BW, I think we've earned the choice for a happy ending.

"Have you ever noticed that when anyone says 'With all due respect' what they really mean is..."

Ya know, the ending might have been less terrible if my squad had told me we wouldn't make it from the start.  Of course, then, why would I bother finishing the game?

"Clarity" and "closure" be damned.  I still have high hopes for the forthcoming dlc.  This cake had better not be a lie.

Sorry, sometimes I get cranky.

 Glad you picked up on that line. You know, oddly enough, I've found myself quoting Mass Effect a lot recently. And people think I'm so creative, coming up with one liners on the spot. Although it's weird that the majority of my quotes come from ME1...

I hate hate hate that false sense of hope  Even if they had all been telling me, "We're not getting out of this alive," I still wouldn't have believed them. Because it's Bioware, if they do one thing consistently it's giving us the option of happy or sad endings. 
...

I do hope you're right, though. All they've said so far are their plans to fill in plot holes. I'm holding out until PAX, and if that doesn't produce anything, I'm giving up.

[Kia Purity]

Sten's reply would be all "No."

[leighzard]

Kia Purity wrote...

Sten's reply would be all "No."

[LadyofRivendell]

Have you guys seen the newest tweet from @MassEffect?

[frylock23]

Sandtigress wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Madgey wrote...

Whaaaat? Kaidan can die in ME3!



Who would do that?

 Heartless jerks, that's who.

It is interesting to see the change in dialogue, though. I didn't even have to persuade Kaidan to lower his gun in my game, nor did I get any Renegade interrupt options. He sounds so hostile in that vid... I don't like angry Kaidan. I like trusting and adorable Kaidan.

The only renegade interrupt I remember in my paragon game was who got to shoot Udina.

For Anelle, I have to believe she never intended to use her gun on Kaidan.  She'd rather let Udina open those doors and face-off all of Cerberus first.  But she was ready to use her gun to protect the rest of the Council if necessary, from Udina or anyone else.

I only ever got the renegade interrupt to shoot Udina on my canon Shep, and she took it. She might have let things play out except she's just impatient that way, and mentally said "Eff It!" She figured there'd be time to sort things out after Udina dead.

My Adept Shep is much more Paragon, and I don't remember even getting that renegade interrupt. But her thought process probab;y included something along the lines of "If you still distrust me enough to shoot, I don't even care to live anymore. Ball's in your court."

[frylock23]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Have you guys seen the newest tweet from @MassEffect?

If you're referencing the one where they say they'll be "clarifying" things ... you know, for us poor dumb ole' boys and gals who can't be bothered to figure out their high falutin' art for ourselves ... then yeah.

It makes me want to get a picture of ****** Christ, photoshop out the crucifix and put a copy of ME3 in its place with the caption "BioWare's 'art' ... Yeah, pretty much like that"

[LadyofRivendell]

frylock23 wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Have you guys seen the newest tweet from @MassEffect?

If you're referencing the one where they say they'll be "clarifying" things ... you know, for us poor dumb ole' boys and gals who can't be bothered to figure out their high falutin' art for ourselves ... then yeah.

It makes me want to get a picture of ****** Christ, photoshop out the crucifix and put a copy of ME3 in its place with the caption "BioWare's 'art' ... Yeah, pretty much like that"

 Scared of you...



Okay, on a happier note, say ME3 ended with both Shep and Kaidan alive. How would you guys like your Sheps to "settle down", if at all?

[devSin]

frylock23 wrote...

It makes me want to get a picture of ****** Christ, photoshop out the crucifix and put a copy of ME3 in its place with the caption "BioWare's 'art' ... Yeah, pretty much like that"

Why not just put your copy of ME3 in a jar and pee in it?

I mean, I'm all for statements, but if you're going to do it, you may as well go all out, no? :-)

To be truthful, I have to get away from here. The deniers are too much for me. I just can't stand to read one more of their creepy posts.

[leighzard]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Okay, on a happier note, say ME3 ended with both Shep and Kaidan alive. How would you guys like your Sheps to "settle down", if at all?

Ooh, good question!  I always imagine them continuing to serve, but with the Alliance aware of their relationship, they're forced onto different vessels.  So they take their shore leave together, talk lots on holovids, and argue with each other about who should step down from command.  Eventually, one of two things happens: 1) Kaidan can't take it anymore and asks for a civillian post working with human biotics at the station that serves as Shep's base and occaisonally goes on runs with her as support, or 2) Shepard accidentally gets pregnant and steps down.  I just can't see Shepard volunteering for a life outside the Alliance.  I suspect in scenario 1, Kaidan could wear her down enough to at least accept a desk job, if not retire.

[LadyofRivendell]

leborum wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Okay, on a happier note, say ME3 ended with both Shep and Kaidan alive. How would you guys like your Sheps to "settle down", if at all?

Ooh, good question!  I always imagine them continuing to serve, but with the Alliance aware of their relationship, they're forced onto different vessels.  So they take their shore leave together, talk lots on holovids, and argue with each other about who should step down from command.  Eventually, one of two things happens: 1) Kaidan can't take it anymore and asks for a civillian post working with human biotics at the station that serves as Shep's base and occaisonally goes on runs with her as support, or 2) Shepard accidentally gets pregnant and steps down.  I just can't see Shepard volunteering for a life outside the Alliance.  I suspect in scenario 1, Kaidan could wear her down enough to at least accept a desk job, if not retire.

You don't think the Alliance would cut them some slack? It should be the least they could do, given everything Shep and Kaidan have done for not just the Alliance, but the whole freakin' Galaxy!


Edit: Wait a second... first post on page 1500?! This calls for a GIF! 

Modifié par LadyofRivendell, 24 mars 2012 - 04:49 .