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[Caseshep]

crimsonrhodelia wrote...

Not specifically related to any recent post, but I just had to say this: this may be an unpopular opinion, but I just have to say it: I don't blame Kaidan for his reaction to Shepard suddenly turning up on Horizon at all.

In fact, I have to admit, it really annoys me when people get too butthurt about him backing away from their Shepards to be rational and try to understand where he's coming from. This is one of the many reasons why I can't really read ME fanfic anymore...because so much of it is "KAIDAN WAS SO MEAN ON HORIZON MY SHEPARD CAN DO NO WRONG OMG". When Kaidan had every reason to be distrustful. I wouldn't love Kaidan the character nearly as much if he'd just been like "oh lol even though you "died" two years ago and never got in touch with me and now you're clearly working with Cerberus, the evil organization that was responsible for all sorts of monstrous acts in the first game, but! because we had sex, I will absolutely forgive you immediately for all of that, in fact, let's have sex right now."

I agree. If I were in his shoes, I would totally feel the same way he did.. But I also think Shepard was a little too passive on Horizon. I don't know. I think in the end, it should be a mutual apology, because both are in the wrong.
When Kaidan accuses Shep of feeling like she owes it to Cerberus for bringing her back...my Shep doesn't actively think that, but deep down she kind of knows Kaidan is right. And Kaidan knows her enough to be right and he's right to be wary of her joining a terrorist organization. But I also think Kaidan was a jackass to not support her decision to help out the colonists when there was no other obvious way to help them.

Overall, I think Horizon was well done. It makes me happy that they have a tender moment, it makes me unhappy that Kaidan "abandons" her, but it would be unrealistic if he was just herp derp okay with it, like crimson said. So yeah, good things do come to those who wait. Hopefully.


EDIT:

Kia Purity wrote...

@Crimson-- not actually an unpopular option.

Most
of us do feel that he was definitely in the right about Horizon. I
don't blame him even though he made me feel sad/upset because of course,
he's right and what the hell am I doing I'M GOING TO HIT TIM IN THE
FACE (and eat some chocolate pastries and hit TIM some more)

TIM does deserve a good kick in the balls. <_<

Modifié par Caseshep, 02 août 2011 - 12:34 .

[Oddlyotter]

I agree, while it hurt cause I loves him, I completely understand and probably would have reacted the same way. My shepard was very distrustful of cerberus the entire time I was "working" for them. Kaidan, Garrus and I saw what they did first hand. If the person I loved died and then came back working for essentially what I knew as a terrorist group i'd be pissed too!

[FireEye]

Caseshep wrote...

But I also think Kaidan was a jackass to not support her decision to help out the colonists when there was no other obvious way to help them.

To point out, Shepard doesn't even try to find another way.   We don't find out the Council won't help Shepard until Shepard has already signed her soul over to the devil and is openly working for Cerberus.  She doesn't question Cerberus' intentions, in the beginning or otherwise, she doesn't kick, she doesn't scream, she just merrily agrees to helping out because tIM says so.

As far as we can tell, Kaidan was working to stop the abductions.  He suspected Cerberus was in on it.  Had Cebrerus not sabotaged the weapon Kaidan was installing and lured the Collectors straight on top of Horizon, Horizon would have been able to defend itself (remember: the Collector ship is one ship that can be driven off by that one weapon and taken out by a frigate) and a third of the colony wouldn't have been sacrificed for tIM to get... whatever the hell it was that Horizon was supposed to gain him.

Besides, in the case of Horizon, Kaidan was right - Cerberus was behind the attack.


Edit: Really, I shouldn't try to discuss ME2.  And I should try to remember that.  Here, have this Kaidan on Intai'sei:

Modifié par FireEye, 02 août 2011 - 12:49 .

[Caseshep]

True true true true. hmmmmm. I guess I just liked to think that Shepard really did try to find other ways first. But yeah, that just leans me more in favor of Kaidan's opinion...where I already was leaning.

Augh, I hate Cerberus.

And thank you.  But why do you feel like you shouldn't try to discuss ME2??

Modifié par Caseshep, 02 août 2011 - 12:52 .

[Oddlyotter]

FireEye wrote...

As far as we can tell, Kaidan was working to stop the abductions.  He suspected Cerberus was in on it.  Had Cebrerus not sabotaged the weapon Kaidan was installing and lured the Collectors straight on top of Horizon, Horizon would have been able to defend itself (remember: the Collector ship is one ship that can be taken driven off by that one weapon and taken out by a frigate) and a third of the colony wouldn't have been sacrificed for tIM to get... whatever the hell it was that Horizon was supposed to gain him.

Besides, in the case of Horizon, Kaidan was right - Cerberus was behind the attack.

I hadn't really thought of it like that. I thought the gun was just not up to speed I didn't think cerberus was the ones who messed it up for the collectors to come. Did they say that in the game? I mean I've played throught hat 4 times now and never caught that! Oh that makes me even more pissed then if tIM was sacrificing the one person I'm sure he KNEW I loved >

Modifié par Oddlyotter, 02 août 2011 - 12:51 .

[agumal]

crimsonrhodelia wrote...

Not specifically related to any recent post, but I just had to say this: this may be an unpopular opinion, but I just have to say it: I don't blame Kaidan for his reaction to Shepard suddenly turning up on Horizon at all.

In fact, I have to admit, it really annoys me when people get too butthurt about him backing away from their Shepards to be rational and try to understand where he's coming from. This is one of the many reasons why I can't really read ME fanfic anymore...because so much of it is "KAIDAN WAS SO MEAN ON HORIZON MY SHEPARD CAN DO NO WRONG OMG". When Kaidan had every reason to be distrustful. I wouldn't love Kaidan the character nearly as much if he'd just been like "oh lol even though you "died" two years ago and never got in touch with me and now you're clearly working with Cerberus, the evil organization that was responsible for all sorts of monstrous acts in the first game, but! because we had sex, I will absolutely forgive you immediately for all of that, in fact, let's have sex right now."

This I agree. Although,  I think both Kaidan and Shepard were wrong in some way. The real one to blame is their circumstances. They both have their good and bad reasons. 

But what's happened has happened. I just hope that BioWare would give us a good way for them to patch things up without dragging it or going over-the-top.

[FireEye]

Caseshep wrote...
And thank you.  But why do you feel like you shouldn't try to discuss ME2??

I have... issues with ME2, most of which have nothing to do with Kaidan.  I don't really want to impact anyone else's enjoyment of it, so it's better for me not to.  XD

Oddlyotter wrote...

I hadn't really thought of it like that. I thought the gun was just not up to speed I didn't think cerberus was the ones who messed it up for the collectors to come. Did they say that in the game? I mean I've played throught hat 4 times now and never caught that! Oh that makes me even more pissed then if tIM was sacrificing the one person I'm sure he KNEW I loved >

You could probably argue the gun as being a coincidence - it's not stated, but I thought it was implied.  That Kaidan couldn't get it running is a bit strange, especially if he's been setting these up one colony after the other (which I thought was also implied).  And tIM would have needed Kaidan to stay in one place for the Horizon trap to work on Shepard, the best way to ensure that would have been to delay him somehow.  And that EDI immediately fixes whatever problem it has is a little suspicious, even though she's something of a Magic Plot Device a couple of times throughout the game.

I thought there was also supposed to be a Cerberus mole on Horizon according to... Psh... LotSB or something? 

However, tIM did set up Horizon and arrange for Kaidan to be there.  I suspect he would have been happier had the VS been abducted, but either way, I figured he was trying to drive the wedge between Shepard and the VS.

[Caseshep]

You raise very good points FireEye. Ehh, I thought everyone had some issues with ME2. Yeah, other than Kaidan..
I honestly enjoyed playing ME1 more my first time through. The storyline and everything. But ME2 is so pretty.

[Pax of Doom]

crimsonrhodelia wrote...
When Kaidan had every reason to be distrustful. I wouldn't love Kaidan the character nearly as much if he'd just been like "oh lol even though you "died" two years ago and never got in touch with me and now you're clearly working with Cerberus, the evil organization that was responsible for all sorts of monstrous acts in the first game, but! because we had sex, I will absolutely forgive you immediately for all of that, in fact, let's have sex right now."

A-farkin'-MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Caseshep wrote...

I agree. If I were in his shoes, I would totally feel the same way he did.. But I also think Shepard was a little too passive on Horizon. I don't know. I think in the end, it should be a mutual apology, because both are in the wrong.

Truth. 

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Caseshep wrote...
TIM does deserve a good kick in the balls. <_< 

Vyan Shepard had a bullet with TIM's name on it.  However, with the reveals of melee, she has informed me that she now has a biotic beyotchslap waitin' for him.  Hawt&nasty things with Kaidan on TIM's corpse is optional. 

/and she's the Paragon...

/sorry, gettin' too enthusiastic  

[Pax of Doom]

Sialater wrote...

We've always been a well-behaved thread.

<snip awsome pic>

After all, he wouldn't have it any other way.

That picture... 

...sighthunkdrool... 

[Shoko86]

Posting Kaidan in a Kaidan thread! 

[Oddlyotter]

I kinda am hoping that in the beginning of the game (ME3), as it's been said in the demos, once you get to the ship and Anderson leaves, Kaidan is already there and he pulls you up on the ship and you get the whole

Cypher0020 wrote...

Kaidan: Shepard... I
Shepard: I know
*collargrabkiss*

THAT would make my day. Right at the beginning, world crumbling around them. MMmph.

[agumal]

Shoko86 wrote...

Posting Kaidan in a Kaidan thread! 


http://th02.devianta...o86-d42f9ga.jpg

Oh my...



So many questions though: why is his shirt open? Who did it? Will the wine "accidentally" be spilled across his chest and we'll be "forced" to lick it clean? 

Modifié par agumal, 02 août 2011 - 05:18 .

[Criz]

actually I prefer nawww-ish dialog + nawww-ish cuddly stuff over hot steamy pre-schmecks scenes ...
it's why I'm draiwng the chibis ... if I wanted hot gay action I'd draw to post on Y!Gallery* <_<

*not sayin' there isn't any nawww-ish art there as well

[agumal]

^ I was actually wondering if your next sketch will be veering towards something above pg13...

[helenovision]

I don't know about you guys, but this thread needs MOAR KAIDAN.

[Kia Purity]

One can never have enough Kaidan!

[KawaiiKatie]

helenovision wrote...

I don't know about you guys, but this thread needs MOAR KAIDAN.

[Mass Kaidan snip]

That image never fails to crack me up. It gets me every time.

[agumal]

helenovision wrote...

I don't know about you guys, but this thread needs MOAR KAIDAN.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2lk8h1k.jpg

In which comes an epic story where Kaidan Alenko saves the galaxy from the invading reapers...
Whilst he deals with his feelings and must choose between Kaidan...and Kaidan. 

Will he suceed? Who will he choose? Find out in the exciting conclusion of this galactic adventure trilogy:


Mass Kaidan 3

[shepskisaac]

agumal wrote...

In which comes an epic story where Kaidan Alenko saves the galaxy from the invading reapers...
Whilst he deals with his feelings and must choose between Kaidan...and Kaidan. 

Will he suceed? Who will he choose? Find out in the exciting conclusion of this galactic adventure trilogy:


Mass Kaidan 3

Exclusive via Origin:
Kaiduck Character Skin!

[shepskisaac]

Kaidan SUPPORT Alert!

Like #masseffect #dragonage at comic con via #biowarepulse ? What do you want to see at #gamescon in Germany? Planning content now!

twitter.com/#!/chaseBoyajian/status/98229328734715904

Start tweeting that you want to see Kaidan like MAD! We gotta get some Kaidan media released on Gamescom!

Modifié par IsaacShep, 02 août 2011 - 07:24 .

[agumal]

^Will tweet like mad

We need something to get their attention! Stat! Where are the naked Kaidan pics?!?!!?

[Pax of Doom]

helenovision wrote...

I don't know about you guys, but this thread needs MOAR KAIDAN.

...multi-Kaidan......with breasts?......he can even work that body type...

[agumal]

^I read that as Kaidan with multi-breasts...What.

[WhoKnew]

helenovision wrote...

I don't know about you guys, but this thread needs MOAR KAIDAN.

/snip

BWAHAH!

I am reminded of...

Modifié par WhoKnew, 02 août 2011 - 08:31 .