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:o new page.. Needs MOAR Kaidan...

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must wipe drool off chin.. god I loves me a man in uniform.. so happy my husband wears one heheh


edit - :crying::crying::crying: Priisus.. your sig... so :crying::crying::crying:

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madlily wrote...

:o new page.. Needs MOAR Kaidan...

*snip*

must wipe drool off chin.. god I loves me a man in uniform.. so happy my husband wears one heheh

edit - :crying::crying::crying: Priisus.. your sig... so :crying::crying::crying:


Here you go
And here
And something a little different
And here

And bonus Shep facepalm!

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madlily wrote...

:o new page.. Needs MOAR Kaidan...

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must wipe drool off chin.. god I loves me a man in uniform.. so happy my husband wears one heheh

/snip


Bwee hee hee. Mine does too. Actually, my husband put his N7 patch on his flak jacket. I should take a picture of it one of these days. And yes, MOAR Kaidan! :wub:


Edit: @Ajna, I'll tell him you think so! :D

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monaeka wrote...

madlily wrote...

:o new page.. Needs MOAR Kaidan...


/snip

must wipe drool off chin.. god I loves me a man in uniform.. so happy my husband wears one heheh

/snip


Bwee hee hee. Mine does too. Actually, my husband put his N7 patch on his flak jacket. I should take a picture of it one of these days. And yes, MOAR Kaidan! :wub:


ahahahah mine did the same thing.. ive got the pic but it has his rank and name in the pic too so its just for me alone hehehe

@ Cheinara.. always appreciate your pic links... so much Kaidany goodness heheh

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madlily wrote...

edit - :crying::crying::crying: Priisus.. your sig... so :crying::crying::crying:


The starchild giving me nightmares? :devil:

I kid I kid... Since I play on XBOX, have a demo screenshot

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oh rofl... nah.. stupid starchild can go jump out of an airlock.. I meant the Garrus line... makes me sad panda all over again.. his speech and Kaidan's and even Liara's made me so sad.....

then the endings... *insert Zoidberg rage*

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Dorko525 wrote...



I KNOW! :wails: I feel terrible about it. I had to rely heavily on head cannon. Kaidan is my first true love, who got under her skin and Thane was there when Shepard was vulnerable. She came to know him and fell in love with him. It doesn't lessen her love for either one, she just felt so rejected after Horizon. THEY NEED TO FIX THANE'S ROMANCE! Grr I feel dirty! I seriously thought there was going to be a side mission where you find the cure! Didn't I read somewhere that Bioware dropped the ball on this? 


Yeah I had read that too, but then i also hear it was fake... which is craptastic cuz it would have been an awesome mission. And it might have been too late for Thane...or not... they could have had it go either way.,... but what we got was crap....:mellow:

((sry if i'm late to the talks lol... just catching up on the boards this morning...after a crazy all night dream of fighting cerberus, geth, and reaper forces sans reapers...through out the country...with those liquid terminators thrown in lol.)

There was supposed to be a mission where you go to Kajhe and try to get the cure from the hanar and Thane was supposed to accompany you. I guess they decided to trash that idea or maybe they will give it as a DLC. I sure hope they can give a DLC with Thane. For me it's not so much as finding a cure for him (but I would sure love one), it's more about giving him a proper romance and conversations. We don't even get a paramour achievement for him :( .Also, someone here on BSN said they asked a writer what happened to Thane and that they responded that they dropped the ball because they forgot Thane was a LI . I mean WTF is that? It just makes me angry. 


That's a definent WTF thing....They better fix it:huh:

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LOL whoever edited the wiki of the Squadmate guide in the ME wiki, Kaidan does not have a 75% bonus to his weapon damage, I'm pretty sure that's Ashley. Even Garrus tops at 40% for weapon damage and Vega at 50%

EDIT: Kaidan has the option to take a 20% upgrade to his weapon damage in expense of his health & shield bonus at the 4th upgrade... Most of his passive involves power damage bonus... 

But you can give him the +25% weapon damage with the CE outfit... and/or have Soldier Shep takes the Squad weapon damage upgrade of +20% but I'm pretty sure they don't stack that way (i.e: 20+25+20=65)... I will ask in the Gameplay forum come weekend... I still have to finish my OP of War Assets anyway.

And yeap Ash has +75% weapon damage, Ash and Kaidan's Alliance Officer passive are different. :happy:

(never expect that I will play ME for the gameplay now... when I had never touched a shooter game in my life ever before)

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madlily wrote...

oh rofl... nah.. stupid starchild can go jump out of an airlock.. I meant the Garrus line... makes me sad panda all over again.. his speech and Kaidan's and even Liara's made me so sad.....

then the endings... *insert Zoidberg rage*


Which reminds me: Has anybody heard what a romanced Garrus says to Shepard during the good-bye scene? It's super sweet! He mentions something along the lines of finding out what a turian-human baby looks like, to which Shep says, "I'm game, although I think adoption might be a better idea. Biology may not cooperate."  So cute!

Makes me wish we had something like that with Kaidan.

Modifié par monaeka, 27 mars 2012 - 12:16 .


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does this cover endorage?



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The thing about this I-hate-VS debacle that people seem to have is because Ash/Kaidan is not afraid to question Shepard, well they're probably the only character who voiced that opinion out and then they pull the "Team Dextro sticks with Shep throughout the end" argument (ok I love my bro Garrus but that argument is getting tiresome). Same reason with Adams, Ash/Kaidan are Alliance Soldiers first and the reason imo why Ash/Kaidan are being super vocal about it is because they think Shepard is the shining example of humanity (ok terrible choice of word here, brain dead atm)... So it seems unlikely that Shepard will join up with Cerberus. Th possibility that Shepard is a clone or had that control chip planted is quite plausible... heck even Shep questions him/herself at the Cerberus Base. And then blowing up a Relay to kill 300k Batarians... seems quite a solid base point to think that it's not really what Shep will do, especially if he/she is a Paragon... I mean could it really be Shep? We as a player know that the events of ME2 are pretty much forced upon Shep but the Alliance and VS don't.


People also forget conveniently that when it came to Garrus atleast, he was put in pretty much the same position when it came to joining Cerberus that Shep was - join or die at first and then we hauled your critically wounded butt out of there and saved it and you woke up in a Cerberus facility ... join us?

At least he had some friendly faces there is Shep, Joker and Chakwas to help make the decision better plus Garrus was always something of a Renegade/seat of the pants type himself.

The VS was never put in quite that same position.

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:o:lol::lol:

So I was just checking twitter and came across a retweet from Jessica Merizan of Chris Priestly saying... -Creative cupcake protest respected and appreciated. Still, would a creative 'send Priestly a protest Porche' be too much to ask #greedy

I lol'd hard hahaha

I assume this is to do with the retakemasseffect movement.. glad they are aware and taking notice of them, soz for the off topic but it was too funny to not mention

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JosieFrances wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

I loved Kaidan in ME3 he was great and your love story with im was really gripping and sweet. I just wish there was more at the end. Really want to see a send off and what happens with Kaidan and Shepard cos they have such a history, it would be just nice to see where their relationship goes :)


I think this is something we can all agree on :?


Also, I kind of wish there was a conform scene after Thessia or something... but no, everyone is comforting Liara <_<


Haha yeah I totally agree with you lol I mean okay I do feel for Liara, but I mean I want cuddles from Kaidan, Thats right 'I' Haha I totally have no life when it comes to Mass Effect xDImage IPB


I'm actually playing my Garrus romance playthrough right now which was an ME2 playthrough only. This was to allow me to have made all of the not-as-fun decisions (like killing Wrex) without actually having to watch them. I'm too paragon to make the bad decisions and when Kaidan tells me to save the council in ME1, I always do.

But while the Garrus romance is awesome, I still end up going to talk to Kaidan the most and my husband has to hear my complain about "Why won't Kaidan talk to me! I'm his best bro!". The hospital scenes were actually kind of depressing because I just kept waiting for him to hit on me.

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monaeka wrote...

Ajna wrote...

Troy Baker voices Kai Leng, whom I hate, he also voices my favourite companion in SW:TOR, if I can seperate the two why the hell can't a journalist?

Just wanted to throw that out there, all of the reasons he states for his hatred of Kaidan are the same reasons why I love the character, but hey, I'm a heterosexual female in reality..perhaps that makes a difference...


If it makes you feel any better, my husband actually thinks Kaidan is awesome for several reasons: 1) he has his poo poo together, 2) he doesn't obsess over the past, and 3) he's a good guy. Of course, my husband often tosses around the Carth thing as a joke, but he can easily separate both characters. Ultimately, my husband says Kaidan is his mShep's "bro." :)


Lol, my husband too :).  He kept Kaidan alive for his Miranda-mance playthrough (did Genesis because he couldn't actually kill Ashley, he's such a secret softie).  He's doing that ME3 run now (stoping at the beam of course, because OMGWTF ENDING).  He's taking Kaidan and Vega everywhere and keeps talking about his "Bro Squad" and his "Ship of Bros."  It's quite cute :).

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KAIDAN FORM BUMMMMMMP! bow before the mighty head bump

[ sorry in stanage mode]

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Hello everyone - I finished ME3 two days ago, and I'm still in love with Kaidan... even more than before. His character was great in ME3 - even if I would have liked to see more of "spectre alenko" "major alenko" and "teacher alenko", but, well, I expect fanfics to fill the holes !

But the goal of my post is not here. In fact I need some help.

Here is my problem : english is not my native language (I'm french), but I play in english - femshep and Kaidan's french voices make me cringe.

the problem is, from time to time, I'm not sure I understand exactly what is said. I have the general meaning, but I think I miss some nuances.
For example in the date scene : what the hell means "if you want to butter me up" ? What exactly is a "sanity check" ? How do you understand Kaidan's "and there are benefits to that happiness" ? Does he mean what I think he means ?

Ah, and something I wanted to ask for a long time : what exactly means "smoldering" ?

Thanks in advance, fellow kaidanites

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sanity check.. I take it to mean that they need some time out for themselves away from all the craziness that is saving the galaxy...

yes 'and there are benefits to that happiness' does mean what you think it means.. heheh

butter me up just means to entice them I guess.. as simple as I could come up with, probably a much better way to explain them all..

also.. WELCOME

smouldering in my head at least = Kaidan with his sexytime eyes ahahahahaha..
hope this helps a little ^_^

Modifié par madlily, 27 mars 2012 - 01:59 .


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Pax of Doom wrote...

Chiantirose1982 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Hey Kaidan Thread, just giving Our Guy Kaidan some back up on this terrible article that spews hate about him check the latest comments tab at the bottom for an...interesting comment. tell me what you think.

VS rules!

http://www.pcgamer.c...but-thats-okay/


Just wow ... I cant believe I actually tried read this crap. Started reading it, okay he doesnt like Kaidan, not everyone does and then he goes into the VA. Kaidan = Carth Clone ... how original. Pretty much stopped reading after I read Carth. You would think Journalist would come up with something better. I have yet to hear a logical reason from people how dont like Kaidan or even Ashley. Always comes back to whiney/racist <_<


Long Post Incoming!!!!  :D

The person who wrote it had a point in there, somewhere.  It's buried in all the bashing - a journalistic no-no is letting your voice talk over the message, right?  The point the person had (he? she? author wasn't memorable) was that Kaidan's remembered, even if he was "unliked and unmemorable".  That someone who you left to die 2 games ago still lingers, and your decision still matters down through 2 games.  This article screams "decisions matter"!  FTFA: BioWare facilitated my hatred for Kaidan by letting me kill him, and that decision has a huge impact on Mass Effect 3.

Also, the writer is going for low-hanging fruit.  Anyone can take potshots at Kaidan, he's fair game.  Notice how they never touch sacred cow characters (Wrex, for instance).

Another point the article says, from TFA:
Kaidan, on the other hand, fits the definition of a well-developed
character. He has a complex backstory and traits that cast him as the
most virtuous of the Normandy’s crew (much like KotOR’s Carth Onasi).
Ironically, good characterization is what makes me hate Kaidan.
BioWare
nailed one of the key aspects of character development laid out in Jesse
Schell’s The Art of Game Design: using the power of the voice.


As Schell writes, “the voice acting in games seems primitive compared
to the powerful performances in film…Because the process of game
development is so volatile, it is expensive to create characters around
their voices.”


Mass Effect often suffers from stiff or wonky animation, but the
series sets a high bar for interactive dialogue and voice acting, which
games like L.A. Noire have built on with extensive motion capture. And
Kaidan’s voice fits his character perfectly, which is why I really can’t
stand him. He’s just too damn genial.
Evoking such a strong
reaction—even a negative one—makes Kaidan an unusually memorable cog in
the complex machine of Mass Effect’s narrative, considering I spent less
than thirty minutes interacting with him.


Under the hyperbolic hatred is grudging respect.  He's memorable - not in the way the endings are memorable (RAGE is a hell of a memory marker), or EDI's cameltoe is memorable.  There's also respect for BW's writing ability, and even Mr. Sbarge's voice-acting.  TFA trips over itself in "omg I hate Kaidan!" hyperbole, but the article writer has enough knowledge of Kaidan to belie the "only interacted for 30 minutes" line. 

The writer's flogging the "decisions matter" meme, giving a sly wink with sentences like The way the entire Mass Effect saga handles player choice is ultimately a
greater achievement, at least from a technical perspective. Dozens of
minute decisions carry over from Mass Effect to Mass Effect 2 to Mass
Effect 3...
It's not an outright attack on Hold the Line or fan reactions.  It's subtler, yet more insidious.  Deflect to a common enemy (in this case, Kaidan) to channel away rage and catapult the propaganda.  Point made, people take away from the article that "decisions matter", and you can discredit the vocal minority.

I probably should organize my points more, but it's 4:30 a.m. and I spent waaay too much time to analyze & type this.  

THIS! Don't worry, even at 4:30 a.m. you echoed what I thought about the article too.

I was initially like "Oh, he hates Carth... therefore he hates Kaidan... *smh" ... the article may be "bashing" Kaidan, but in reality that author was praising his character because it's so well developed.  I can totally understand hating Kaidan for the same exact reasons that we all love him.

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Thanks a lot !
Well, I had understood quite correctly - which reassures me.
Well, except for the "butter me up" line :)

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To butter someone up is to be very nice to them in order to get them to do what you want. For example, a kid who wants his mom to let him go to a party might start the conversation by saying "You know, you're the best mom ever" or by bringing her a little present so she'll be in a good mood and (hopefully) more likely to agree when he asks.

Smoldering literally means something along the lines of a slow burning fire but gets used a lot to describe strong emotions, especially love/lust and anger. It implies very strong emotions that are barely contained, or are right under the surface, and possibly about to erupt at any minute.

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LarkGal wrote...

To butter someone up is to be very nice to them in order to get them to do what you want. For example, a kid who wants his mom to let him go to a party might start the conversation by saying "You know, you're the best mom ever" or by bringing her a little present so she'll be in a good mood and (hopefully) more likely to agree when he asks.

Smoldering literally means something along the lines of a slow burning fire but gets used a lot to describe strong emotions, especially love/lust and anger. It implies very strong emotions that are barely contained, or are right under the surface, and possibly about to erupt at any minute.


Thanks a lot, again - your explanations are very precise, and very clear.

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Happy to help :) I can't imagine being able to play in a different language -- I might be able to understand Shep ask for directions to the bathroom but that'd be about it. Are the french voices all horrible?

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LarkGal wrote...

Happy to help :) I can't imagine being able to play in a different language -- I might be able to understand Shep ask for directions to the bathroom but that'd be about it. Are the french voices all horrible?


trying to imagine Kaidan's voice as anything but Raphael's just doesnt seem right.. one thing from that terribad review thingy from a couple of pages ago is that Raphael Sbarge made Kaidan what he is... sure the writers wrote some great stuff but Raphael gave him life with that delicious voice of his lol

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LarkGal wrote...

Happy to help :) I can't imagine being able to play in a different language -- I might be able to understand Shep ask for directions to the bathroom but that'd be about it. Are the french voices all horrible?


I played the french version only for the first game - but I heard the dubbing was worse in ME2 and ME3.

Some of them are OK I think. In the first game, I liked Garrus, Liara's and Wrex voices, for instance. I eventhink that I like Wrex voice better in french.
Tali has no accent in the french version.

The french femshep is OK for the action, or when she's not happy, but when she tries to sound nice, or flirty, it is awful. She is just ridiculous. And anyway, I'm in love with Jennifer Hale's voice and acting.

As for Kaidan, he always sounds like an enthousiast boyscout. Very "sir yes sir", even in the intimate scenes. It just sounds... wrong. And he has nothing of the warmth of Sbarge's voice.

Another problem is the traduction : sometimes too litterate, or confusion between femshep/maleshep lines.

I can try to find some youtube examples, if you're curious ?

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Altie wrote...

LarkGal wrote...

Happy to help :) I can't imagine being able to play in a different language -- I might be able to understand Shep ask for directions to the bathroom but that'd be about it. Are the french voices all horrible?


Some of them are OK I think. In the first game, I liked Garrus, Liara's and Wrex voices, for instance. I eventhink that I like Wrex voice better in french.
Tali has no accent in the french version.

The french femshep is OK for the action, or when she's not happy, but when she tries to sound nice, or flirty, it is awful. She is just ridiculous. And anyway, I'm in love with Jennifer Hale's voice and acting.

As for Kaidan, he always sounds like an enthousiast boyscout. Very "sir yes sir", even in the intimate scenes. It just sounds... wrong. And he has nothing of the warmth of Sbarge's voice.

Another problem is the traduction : sometimes too litterate, or confusion between femshep/maleshep replicas.

I can try to find some youtube examples, if you're curious ?

Yes, please! I would love to hear it.

I actually wanted to change the dialogue in my game from English to French just to see what the characters sounded like (especially Kaidan!), but it's not allowed. :(

(btw I always loved the French language, I minored in it in college)

*edit: Nice, I got Top. Here's some Kaidan in my personal favorite alternate costume:

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Modifié par goodventure, 27 mars 2012 - 02:45 .