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LadyofRivendell wrote...

...Okay, I think Fanfiction.net is bugged out or something. Has anyone else been getting notification emails from them? I've seen that some of my subscribed stories have been updated, and I got eight new reviews for one of my stories, yet I haven't received an email all day.

And I'm sad, I can't find the GIF of Kaidan's butt D:


It's not you, FF is definitely broken in the email department.  I'm getting no chapter alerts, no review alerts, no PM alerts, and I've heard the same from several other people.  I submitted a support ticket yesterday but haven't heard anything back.

P.S.: I loved getting the Javik comment ("So you are joined with the human male?").  He's such an ass, but even in his own being-a-jerk way it was nice to have the relationship acknowledged publicly on the ship.

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All I can say on the topic of Kaiden as a "love interest" is I wanted the love story between my FemShep and Kaiden to work out soooo bad!  I made Shep completely loyal all the way through 3 games (which is no easy feat with some of the run away dialogue choices), and played both 1 and 2 so many times to make sure that I imported the perfect character into ME3.  I felt as though I had to make sure that everything was right from the get go to be confident that nothing would stand in the way of my perfect love story (sad, right?).  

I entered Mass Effect 3 with high Paragon and a level 30 character, passed all the personality checks, and ultimately won back the affections of Major Alenko (woo!).  Finally, Shep and Kaiden do not have to hide their love on the Normandy.  It's like just when everything is so close to working out for those two, it's over! 

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the game through and through, but the fact that the story worked out the way it did for my two lovebirds was a swift kick in the proverbial bollocks. *oof*  I felt like I needed to go watch "The Notebook" with a bottle of Jack for about 3 days after my first play through.  

....And he really does have a nice digital butt.

 

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DuskWanderer wrote...

carine wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

Ashley is just abrasive which some people don't like. I personally enjoyed talking to her, but I can see how her personality might turn people off. It's certainly better than the excuses for hating Kaidan.

"He's whiny!"
"He's boring!"
"He isn't loyal to me!"

You mean he gives his backstory, he's not an alien, and he doesn't blindly follow your every command. Yeah, those normal people really get on my nerves <_<


I haaate how much crap the VS gets. I didn't realize how unpopular Ash was as well because I was more concerned with Kaidan, but jeez. Both of them get torn apart just because they don't blindly follow Shepard and choose to question Shepard instead (which I think is perfectly valid, given the fact that Shepard died, and then joined a terrorist organization).

Honestly I like the human characters better than the aliens. I don't hate the aliens at all, but I have a special spot for the humans. Especially Kaidan. :P

EDIT: TOP

I love the Mars mission SO MUCH.




Yeah, I can't stand the hate Ash/Kaidan get for not being a blind Shepard loyalist. I think there's a lot of things Tali and Garrus fans don't consider when it comes to them.

1.) They are in the Alliance, and have their own lives. Garrus doesn't really have anything better to do: He was a viligante on Omega who would have been killed not for Shepard. Tali went through proper channels and received clearance from the Admiralty Board. Ash and Kaidan did not.

2.) Ash and Kaidan both have infinitely more reason to hate Cerberus because they are both humans, and military brats. This is more prominent with Ash than it is Kaidan, but while Cerberus has an obvious xenophobia for aliens, they claim to be making things better for humanity as a whole, including the VS. Given Ash's determined desire to prove she's not a weakling, and Kaidan's morality, it would set them off a lot more than Tali, who can simply hate Cerberus for it's xenophobia.

3.) While not true for Ash, Kaidan has no reason to simply "fall in line" behind Shepard: Kaidan outranks him: Major is higher than Commander. Shepard has no authority to give Kaidan orders. 

4.) Tali and Garrus found out about Shepard by accident, Ash/Kaidan found out through second-hand rumors that Shepard was working with Cerberus, then had the rumors confirmed. Even if Shepard wanted to contact them, it never actually happened. How would you react when your best friend supposedly died, came back to life, and joined a terrorist organization, all the while not bothering to let you know they were, at the very least, okay. 

5.) As ME3 showed us, Ash and Kaidan were right: Shepard couldn't trust Cerberus. 


While most peole who dislike the VS generally doesnt seem to give it much thought, there are a few things the writers could have done diffrently to give those characters justice.  

1) Let the VS act in constructive ways. There is a line between cautious and insecure. As smart as it can be to be warry of Shepard's possible indoctrination, there are better ways to find out if someone is a traitor then by asking directly. What answer could the VS expect ? How could it not come as whiny to the player ? After all, Shep has no point of proving he isnt indoctrinated simply by discussing the issue and VS has no way of knowing if he lied. Its funny how the game goes some extra lenghts to point out that 'the VS has become very capable' (specially in the case of Kaidan, who already had a good head) but will force the VS to question Shep in the most useless way. How about asking Chakwas to see my medical records, or something along those line ?

2) Give a payoff to cautiousness and loyalty to the Alliance. From a totally empirical point of view, questionning Shepard is pointless, time consuming and dangerous. It never brings anything useful to the mission or move the plot forward. How can the players not see it as annoying? Wh couldnt the VS bring some extra Spectre missions or bonuses to the player who get them onboard? Or even better, help Shep get rid of some dangerous Cerberus implant. Instead, the VS just finally falls in line during the Citadel coup or die. The VS cautiousness is never rewarded by the story and neither is the player's effort to regain the VS trust. All the VS brings is an extra gun on the ship, same as you get from any other squaddy that you didnt not spend half the game trying to convince.

I know the VS haters usually just say 'oh, Kaidan is whiny' and 'Ash is a ****' but if the VS had acted in a constructive way and if there were some reward for regaining the VS trust, many of them would probably be more open minded.

Modifié par outmane, 30 mars 2012 - 02:41 .


#38754
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Graceyn wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

...Okay, I think Fanfiction.net is bugged out or something. Has anyone else been getting notification emails from them? I've seen that some of my subscribed stories have been updated, and I got eight new reviews for one of my stories, yet I haven't received an email all day.

And I'm sad, I can't find the GIF of Kaidan's butt D:


It's not you, FF is definitely broken in the email department.  I'm getting no chapter alerts, no review alerts, no PM alerts, and I've heard the same from several other people.  I submitted a support ticket yesterday but haven't heard anything back.

P.S.: I loved getting the Javik comment ("So you are joined with the human male?").  He's such an ass, but even in his own being-a-jerk way it was nice to have the relationship acknowledged publicly on the ship.


Of course, if we're emailing the support department via the same broken email server then our tickets may be going missing too...

Javik amuses me - he's such a deadpan grump, I had such a giggle when he expressed his desire to throw Legion out of the airlock. But yes, nice to have some acknowledgement of the relationship from someone - Garrus romance does get more mini pieces of interaction than the Kaidan romance, plus I think I noticed an extra comment from Tali when Garrus mentioned the doctor had bought him dextro chocolate "you'd better watch yourself, commander" she said. 

Almost done with renegade shep, then I'm tossing up between mshep and my infiltrator uglyshep OR I could just do main shep 1-2-3 again. Starting to miss ME1 having read some fanfic set back at the start of it all.

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Im finding the Kaidan romance somewhat dificult at times I seem to keep missing dialouge or key moments.
has anyone noticed if you dont romance him he goes for liara?

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Graceyn wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

...Okay, I think Fanfiction.net is bugged out or something. Has anyone else been getting notification emails from them? I've seen that some of my subscribed stories have been updated, and I got eight new reviews for one of my stories, yet I haven't received an email all day.

And I'm sad, I can't find the GIF of Kaidan's butt D:


It's not you, FF is definitely broken in the email department.  I'm getting no chapter alerts, no review alerts, no PM alerts, and I've heard the same from several other people.  I submitted a support ticket yesterday but haven't heard anything back.

P.S.: I loved getting the Javik comment ("So you are joined with the human male?").  He's such an ass, but even in his own being-a-jerk way it was nice to have the relationship acknowledged publicly on the ship.


Ugh, yeah, FF is being a pain right now with the e-mails. It's been like this for the past two days, I think. It's weird that they haven't addressed it on their home page.

@ Graceyn: Thanks for posting your story here. That's how I find out you had updated since I didn't get an e-mail notification.

@ Romances (i.e. Jacob): I hate that, with the exception of Garrus and Tali, they shafted the ME2 romances. Jacob's was just the worst. At first I thought he only got together with Dr. Cole if you didn't romance him, but when I found out he does it anyway, I was shocked. And Thane...Posted Image. I can't believe they just left him out like that. I never romanced him (all my Shepards are with Kaidan, and I couldn't bring myself to cheat), but he was my favorite LI in ME2.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Kaidan's romance scene was perfect - way above the others. Well worth the wait. Posted Image

@ Javik: I like how Javik does a complete 180 throughout the game. He starts off with this holier-than-thou attitude, and by the end he's more understanding and stuff. I laughed when he mentioned the romance. I thought it was the cutest thing.

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Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Im finding the Kaidan romance somewhat dificult at times I seem to keep missing dialouge or key moments.
has anyone noticed if you dont romance him he goes for liara?


That's it - I'll /never/ be able to not romance him. The thought of that... that.... blue child!... getting her hands on my Kaidan...

Oh well, it's for the best anyway, the Garrusmance just made my skin itch. XD

But what dialogue do you feel you're missing? You have him back on the ship, so you must have visited him in the hospital since none of your squadmates killed him. Did you go on the date and tell him you wanted to continue the romance? Once you do that, it's pretty sealed.

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HenchxNarf wrote...

Goooood evening early early morning Kaidanettes!

As I sat here for most of the night, I was trying to compile a playlist for my Shenko fic. Do any of you do this? Or am I the only one? If not! Post up some songs!

We Own The Night - Lady Antebellum
Alone With You - Jake Owen
Constant Craving - KD Lang
All Around Me - Flyleaf
Angels - Within Temptation
What Have You Done? - Within Temptation
Amaranthine - Amaranth

I could list a lot more, but those are on my Shenko playlist right now.


I'd add

Broken - Seether w/ Amy Lee (off The Punisher soundtrack)

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Anacruisis wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Anacruisis wrote...

About Kaidan's lack of dialogue after the Thessia mission
I think he tried to leave Shepard alone
because in my head cannon, he knew that if he talk to her
She will pissed and punch him right to his face
he tried to distract her that they will kick Kai Leng's ass hard
cut his head and sell it to Krogan :devil:
*sigh* at least I got nice cutscene with Garrus and Joker <_<
anybody pick a renegade option when to talk to Liara after her fight with Javik?


See, but I wanted that option to just tell him to go away (or talk to him). If you've played DA2, there is a scene when your LI comes to comfort you and you can talk to them or tell them to go away. 
And my main problem with the no dialogue after Thessia is that he mentions Liara and act as if she is the only one depressed there. Like everyone else. 
<_<
My Shep is paragon, so I've never picked renegade after Thessia...

I really wish that there is a cutscene that similar to locker scene in me1
I was really pissed that almost everyone talked about Liara that how devastated she was
because her homeworld is destroyed
Come on, my shep who is earthborn got her homeworld screwed up first
did I mention about Kaidan's parents were on earth? :blink:
Edit: whooops TOP Kaidan
{snip, yummy Kaidan}
link


In my mind, Kaidan does come up to see Shep later on. Both of them sort of "make the rounds" after missions, and then they often wind up in her cabin afterward. I don't see there as having been much talking just a lot of holding and a lot of silence, a lot of quiet pain.

There might have been some very, very tender smexy time late, late in the night, and if some of the kisses were ... slightly salty ... no one said anything. But that's what's in my own head.

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Ainyan42 wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Im finding the Kaidan romance somewhat dificult at times I seem to keep missing dialouge or key moments.
has anyone noticed if you dont romance him he goes for liara?


That's it - I'll /never/ be able to not romance him. The thought of that... that.... blue child!... getting her hands on my Kaidan...

Oh well, it's for the best anyway, the Garrusmance just made my skin itch. XD

But what dialogue do you feel you're missing? You have him back on the ship, so you must have visited him in the hospital since none of your squadmates killed him. Did you go on the date and tell him you wanted to continue the romance? Once you do that, it's pretty sealed.

Keela,im missing the Horizion text speeach after talking to him in the hospital I dont seem to get anymore dialouge and this is when he wakes up for the first time

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outmane wrote...

DuskWanderer wrote...

carine wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

Ashley is just abrasive which some people don't like. I personally enjoyed talking to her, but I can see how her personality might turn people off. It's certainly better than the excuses for hating Kaidan.

"He's whiny!"
"He's boring!"
"He isn't loyal to me!"

You mean he gives his backstory, he's not an alien, and he doesn't blindly follow your every command. Yeah, those normal people really get on my nerves <_<


I haaate how much crap the VS gets. I didn't realize how unpopular Ash was as well because I was more concerned with Kaidan, but jeez. Both of them get torn apart just because they don't blindly follow Shepard and choose to question Shepard instead (which I think is perfectly valid, given the fact that Shepard died, and then joined a terrorist organization).

Honestly I like the human characters better than the aliens. I don't hate the aliens at all, but I have a special spot for the humans. Especially Kaidan. :P

EDIT: TOP

I love the Mars mission SO MUCH.




Yeah, I can't stand the hate Ash/Kaidan get for not being a blind Shepard loyalist. I think there's a lot of things Tali and Garrus fans don't consider when it comes to them.

1.) They are in the Alliance, and have their own lives. Garrus doesn't really have anything better to do: He was a viligante on Omega who would have been killed not for Shepard. Tali went through proper channels and received clearance from the Admiralty Board. Ash and Kaidan did not.

2.) Ash and Kaidan both have infinitely more reason to hate Cerberus because they are both humans, and military brats. This is more prominent with Ash than it is Kaidan, but while Cerberus has an obvious xenophobia for aliens, they claim to be making things better for humanity as a whole, including the VS. Given Ash's determined desire to prove she's not a weakling, and Kaidan's morality, it would set them off a lot more than Tali, who can simply hate Cerberus for it's xenophobia.

3.) While not true for Ash, Kaidan has no reason to simply "fall in line" behind Shepard: Kaidan outranks him: Major is higher than Commander. Shepard has no authority to give Kaidan orders. 

4.) Tali and Garrus found out about Shepard by accident, Ash/Kaidan found out through second-hand rumors that Shepard was working with Cerberus, then had the rumors confirmed. Even if Shepard wanted to contact them, it never actually happened. How would you react when your best friend supposedly died, came back to life, and joined a terrorist organization, all the while not bothering to let you know they were, at the very least, okay. 

5.) As ME3 showed us, Ash and Kaidan were right: Shepard couldn't trust Cerberus. 


While most peole who dislike the VS generally doesnt seem to give it much thought, there are a few things the writers could have done diffrently to give those characters justice.  

1) Let the VS act in constructive ways. There is a line between cautious and insecure. As smart as it can be to be warry of Shepard's possible indoctrination, there are better ways to find out if someone is a traitor then by asking directly. What answer could the VS expect ? How could it not come as whiny to the player ? After all, Shep has no point of proving he isnt indoctrinated simply by discussing the issue and VS has no way of knowing if he lied. Its funny how the game goes some extra lenghts to point out that 'the VS has become very capable' (specially in the case of Kaidan, who already had a good head) but will force the VS to question Shep in the most useless way. How about asking Chakwas to see my medical records, or something along those line ?

2) Give a payoff to cautiousness and loyalty to the Alliance. From a totally empirical point of view, questionning Shepard is pointless, time consuming and dangerous. It never brings anything useful to the mission or move the plot forward. How can the players not see it as annoying? Wh couldnt the VS bring some extra Spectre missions or bonuses to the player who get them onboard? Or even better, help Shep get rid of some dangerous Cerberus implant. Instead, the VS just finally falls in line during the Citadel coup or die. The VS cautiousness is never rewarded by the story and neither is the player's effort to regain the VS trust. All the VS brings is an extra gun on the ship, same as you get from any other squaddy that you didnt not spend half the game trying to convince.

I know the VS haters usually just say 'oh, Kaidan is whiny' and 'Ash is a ****' but if the VS had acted in a constructive way and if there were some reward for regaining the VS trust, many of them would probably be more open minded.


I'd have liked to have seen a payoff from all the times I sent underhanded info back to Adm. Hackett or the Alliance while I was forced into working for Cerberus in ME2. Couldn't I just shove that into the VS's face? I get that it's all a bunch of angst and where it's coming from. It's bigger than just Shep having worked with Cerberus for the VS - your'e talking about someone this character was deeply in love with (in the case of a LI), so there's feelings of guilt and betrayal and lingeroind love wrapped up on so many levels.

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Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Ainyan42 wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Im finding the Kaidan romance somewhat dificult at times I seem to keep missing dialouge or key moments.
has anyone noticed if you dont romance him he goes for liara?


That's it - I'll /never/ be able to not romance him. The thought of that... that.... blue child!... getting her hands on my Kaidan...

Oh well, it's for the best anyway, the Garrusmance just made my skin itch. XD

But what dialogue do you feel you're missing? You have him back on the ship, so you must have visited him in the hospital since none of your squadmates killed him. Did you go on the date and tell him you wanted to continue the romance? Once you do that, it's pretty sealed.

Keela,im missing the Horizion text speeach after talking to him in the hospital I dont seem to get anymore dialouge and this is when he wakes up for the first time


Aaaah! (And no, I don't sound like a vorcha!) So you're on your second visit, yes? When he's just awoken? You actually have to initiate conversation with him again after he stops talking. I'm not sure why it doesn't auto-start the dialogue wheel (apparently it does on Ash), but after he tells you 'I should let you get back to the Normandy', just stick around for a second and start up another convo.

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Ainyan42 wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Ainyan42 wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Im finding the Kaidan romance somewhat dificult at times I seem to keep missing dialouge or key moments.
has anyone noticed if you dont romance him he goes for liara?


That's it - I'll /never/ be able to not romance him. The thought of that... that.... blue child!... getting her hands on my Kaidan...

Oh well, it's for the best anyway, the Garrusmance just made my skin itch. XD

But what dialogue do you feel you're missing? You have him back on the ship, so you must have visited him in the hospital since none of your squadmates killed him. Did you go on the date and tell him you wanted to continue the romance? Once you do that, it's pretty sealed.

Keela,im missing the Horizion text speeach after talking to him in the hospital I dont seem to get anymore dialouge and this is when he wakes up for the first time


Aaaah! (And no, I don't sound like a vorcha!) So you're on your second visit, yes? When he's just awoken? You actually have to initiate conversation with him again after he stops talking. I'm not sure why it doesn't auto-start the dialogue wheel (apparently it does on Ash), but after he tells you 'I should let you get back to the Normandy', just stick around for a second and start up another convo.

thank you for the advice i will start another round and see if it works ash seems to be less buggy

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LadyofRivendell wrote...

Pax of Doom wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

:lol: That's amazing! Is that a legit glitch, or Photoshopped? 


Legit flycam glitch.  Whipped mouse around too fast and everything inverted.  Text stayed in the same place - that's why I kept it in.  Kaidan's not actually on the ceiling (you can see details in the background are upside down).  Still, I'd like to think Kaidan has a passing knowledge of classical music, particularly by the artist Lionel Richie. 


Okay, so maybe I don't get the music joke, but I thought ceiling Kaidan was a reference to a certain feline...
Aw, crap, here comes the Photoshopping urges again.


@LadyofRivendell...it is an indirect reference to Lionel Richie's song from the 80s-Dancing on the Ceiling!  But then again, I caught it because I am an 80s girl and I LOVE LIONEL RICHIE!!!  lol
:whistle::P

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Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Im finding the Kaidan romance somewhat dificult at times I seem to keep missing dialouge or key moments.
has anyone noticed if you dont romance him he goes for liara?

o.O no he doesn't. I didn't romance him in my 2nd playthrough and there wasn't a single indication he's making any move on Liara

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IsaacShep wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Im finding the Kaidan romance somewhat dificult at times I seem to keep missing dialouge or key moments.
has anyone noticed if you dont romance him he goes for liara?

o.O no he doesn't. I didn't romance him in my 2nd playthrough and there wasn't a single indication he's making any move on Liara


Oh good so no reason I need to find a way to get rid of Liara the.  Good, that would have been a headache, should there ever come a play through to pass that I don't romance Kaidan.

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frylock23 wrote...

outmane wrote...

DuskWanderer wrote...

carine wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

Ashley is just abrasive which some people don't like. I personally enjoyed talking to her, but I can see how her personality might turn people off. It's certainly better than the excuses for hating Kaidan.

"He's whiny!"
"He's boring!"
"He isn't loyal to me!"

You mean he gives his backstory, he's not an alien, and he doesn't blindly follow your every command. Yeah, those normal people really get on my nerves <_<


I haaate how much crap the VS gets. I didn't realize how unpopular Ash was as well because I was more concerned with Kaidan, but jeez. Both of them get torn apart just because they don't blindly follow Shepard and choose to question Shepard instead (which I think is perfectly valid, given the fact that Shepard died, and then joined a terrorist organization).

Honestly I like the human characters better than the aliens. I don't hate the aliens at all, but I have a special spot for the humans. Especially Kaidan. :P

EDIT: TOP

I love the Mars mission SO MUCH.




Yeah, I can't stand the hate Ash/Kaidan get for not being a blind Shepard loyalist. I think there's a lot of things Tali and Garrus fans don't consider when it comes to them.

1.) They are in the Alliance, and have their own lives. Garrus doesn't really have anything better to do: He was a viligante on Omega who would have been killed not for Shepard. Tali went through proper channels and received clearance from the Admiralty Board. Ash and Kaidan did not.

2.) Ash and Kaidan both have infinitely more reason to hate Cerberus because they are both humans, and military brats. This is more prominent with Ash than it is Kaidan, but while Cerberus has an obvious xenophobia for aliens, they claim to be making things better for humanity as a whole, including the VS. Given Ash's determined desire to prove she's not a weakling, and Kaidan's morality, it would set them off a lot more than Tali, who can simply hate Cerberus for it's xenophobia.

3.) While not true for Ash, Kaidan has no reason to simply "fall in line" behind Shepard: Kaidan outranks him: Major is higher than Commander. Shepard has no authority to give Kaidan orders. 

4.) Tali and Garrus found out about Shepard by accident, Ash/Kaidan found out through second-hand rumors that Shepard was working with Cerberus, then had the rumors confirmed. Even if Shepard wanted to contact them, it never actually happened. How would you react when your best friend supposedly died, came back to life, and joined a terrorist organization, all the while not bothering to let you know they were, at the very least, okay. 

5.) As ME3 showed us, Ash and Kaidan were right: Shepard couldn't trust Cerberus. 


While most peole who dislike the VS generally doesnt seem to give it much thought, there are a few things the writers could have done diffrently to give those characters justice.  

1) Let the VS act in constructive ways. There is a line between cautious and insecure. As smart as it can be to be warry of Shepard's possible indoctrination, there are better ways to find out if someone is a traitor then by asking directly. What answer could the VS expect ? How could it not come as whiny to the player ? After all, Shep has no point of proving he isnt indoctrinated simply by discussing the issue and VS has no way of knowing if he lied. Its funny how the game goes some extra lenghts to point out that 'the VS has become very capable' (specially in the case of Kaidan, who already had a good head) but will force the VS to question Shep in the most useless way. How about asking Chakwas to see my medical records, or something along those line ?

2) Give a payoff to cautiousness and loyalty to the Alliance. From a totally empirical point of view, questionning Shepard is pointless, time consuming and dangerous. It never brings anything useful to the mission or move the plot forward. How can the players not see it as annoying? Wh couldnt the VS bring some extra Spectre missions or bonuses to the player who get them onboard? Or even better, help Shep get rid of some dangerous Cerberus implant. Instead, the VS just finally falls in line during the Citadel coup or die. The VS cautiousness is never rewarded by the story and neither is the player's effort to regain the VS trust. All the VS brings is an extra gun on the ship, same as you get from any other squaddy that you didnt not spend half the game trying to convince.

I know the VS haters usually just say 'oh, Kaidan is whiny' and 'Ash is a ****' but if the VS had acted in a constructive way and if there were some reward for regaining the VS trust, many of them would probably be more open minded.


I'd have liked to have seen a payoff from all the times I sent underhanded info back to Adm. Hackett or the Alliance while I was forced into working for Cerberus in ME2. Couldn't I just shove that into the VS's face? I get that it's all a bunch of angst and where it's coming from. It's bigger than just Shep having worked with Cerberus for the VS - your'e talking about someone this character was deeply in love with (in the case of a LI), so there's feelings of guilt and betrayal and lingeroind love wrapped up on so many levels.


Its like the only payoff is being able to rekindle the romance. While that is quite the interesting perk, many of my Sheploo chose to save Kaidan cause they felt he wasnt just any soldier, he had a brain that could bring something to the team that a simple soldier couldnt. 

Sure, I was expecting the harder it is to regain the VS trust the bigger the reward in the end. Might be my fault for thinking that.

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m00nsister

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sesheta255 wrote...

For Shenko fanfic I highly recommend JaerWolfe's fics.  I still think she writes Kaidan better than anyone else.

http://www.fanfictio...03496/JaerWolfe


Wow, those are pretty awesome. I have a lot of catching up to do :) I have only been an irregular visitor in this thread.

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frylock23 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Goooood evening early early morning Kaidanettes!

As I sat here for most of the night, I was trying to compile a playlist for my Shenko fic. Do any of you do this? Or am I the only one? If not! Post up some songs!

We Own The Night - Lady Antebellum
Alone With You - Jake Owen
Constant Craving - KD Lang
All Around Me - Flyleaf
Angels - Within Temptation
What Have You Done? - Within Temptation
Amaranthine - Amaranth

I could list a lot more, but those are on my Shenko playlist right now.


I'd add

Broken - Seether w/ Amy Lee (off The Punisher soundtrack)


There's a song called Amaranthine? Huh.

Anyways, I keep lists of songs for certain characters and such, being that I do a lot of YouTube video editing and am planning to eventually start some for ME. A few I'll throw in:

Just A Kiss - Lady Antebellum (for the buildup during ME1)
Syndicate - The Fray (especially for ME3 and the love scene)
Unknown Soldier - Breaking Benjamin (for the darker ME3 moments and the ending)
Until The Day I Die - Story of the Year (fits best with ME2 and the beginning of ME3)
Hide - Red (for ME2, and maybe Kaidan's POV after Shep dies)
(I promise, I don't listen to metal or screamo or anything. Just realized a lot of those songs are a bit more forceful than what I usually listen to...)

As for fanfics, I've discovered a lot of great ones recently. I was trying to sort through my favorites list last night, and ended up rereading a lot of Shenko fics (Including all of Sesheta's :lol:). JaerWolfe is excellent!
And here's to hoping they fix the pesky email issues <_<


About Javik, I got a great message from him last night on my Datapad: 
"Water is significantly more intuitive than this clumsy apparatus I am limited in how many charact"

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Kaidan does make a passing comment to Shepard about the Ardat-Yakshi, something like he'd be hopeless to resist them or something. I found it quite odd, especially I was romancing him as a mShep at the time. Does he mention them to a femshep?

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Commodore Q wrote...

Kaidan does make a passing comment to Shepard about the Ardat-Yakshi, something like he'd be hopeless to resist them or something. I found it quite odd, especially I was romancing him as a mShep at the time. Does he mention them to a femshep?


He does. I just imagined my FemShep giving him a smirk and a shake of her head.

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Ainyan42 wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

Kaidan does make a passing comment to Shepard about the Ardat-Yakshi, something like he'd be hopeless to resist them or something. I found it quite odd, especially I was romancing him as a mShep at the time. Does he mention them to a femshep?


He does. I just imagined my FemShep giving him a smirk and a shake of her head.


LOL yeah that was one of the 'where is my smack him upside the back of his head' button moments.

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Commodore Q wrote...

Kaidan does make a passing comment to Shepard about the Ardat-Yakshi, something like he'd be hopeless to resist them or something. I found it quite odd, especially I was romancing him as a mShep at the time. Does he mention them to a femshep?

It's just a result of the game being made mostly by straight guys. Everyone in the galaxy is hot and bothered for Asari, Bioware feels they need to remind us all the time just hot HAWT Asari are and how much we want them etc. It's especially silly comment considering he said he doesn't treat this kind of stuff lightly (means not really into casual sex). Yet hurr durr he wouldn't be able to resist Asari/Ardat-Yakshi. Vega also can't shut up about hot super hot Asari are. Diana's "the most beautiful race in the galaxy" comment etc etc. In ME1 Kaidan's Asari comments were self-contradicting too. During the FemShep romance, he basically says he's not into Asari ("She's a nice girl, but I never claimed to be big on alien culture"), yet then there are Lorik and other Liara comments.

Of course everyone has to comment on how sexy EDI is, strip clubs only have female dancers etc etc. You can count on one hand instances where males are commented on in sexual context.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 30 mars 2012 - 04:51 .


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Commodore Q wrote...

Kaidan does make a passing comment to Shepard about the Ardat-Yakshi, something like he'd be hopeless to resist them or something. I found it quite odd, especially I was romancing him as a mShep at the time. Does he mention them to a femshep?


Maybe it's because I rushed through the game, but I don't remember that comment. If I did hear it, I think I just brushed it off and didn't think he meant anything romantic by it.

Yeah, they did make Kaidan's asari comments a little contradicting. In ME1, other than the "hot fetish" comment with Lorik, I never got the impression that he was into asari...at least with a romanced fShep - which is all I play.  However, I think he mentions something about Liara ("I saw her first"/"But only by a few seconds" - or something like that) if you play as mShep in ME1.

*shrug* Whatever, in my head canon, he's only into my fShep so it's all good. Posted Image

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Commodore Q wrote...

Kaidan does make a passing comment to Shepard about the Ardat-Yakshi, something like he'd be hopeless to resist them or something. I found it quite odd, especially I was romancing him as a mShep at the time. Does he mention them to a femshep?


I found that comment funny. One of many benefits of brining Kaidan on board that side mission (or any mission) is his dry humor. I don't think the developers made seperate branching dialogues for male or female. I think most of them are the same because for time management, limit of resources, etc... So I wouldn't expect a wide variety of dialogue just because of the gender differences. 

On the note of sexuality in ME3, I think the team went for more of a stylish presentation and a flair. While there are moment of those sexual camera pans, etc like the shot of Miranda's behind (but only once!) made me still go ... "really?" but compared to other games (*cough-Ninja Gaiden-cough*) Mass Effect does not go over board with boobs and butt shots.